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Bowser 04-07-2013 12:55 PM

Butbutbutbut, you can't let a 1.1 pick ride the bench! He has to play immediately or he is a bust! /huuurrrrrrr

patteeu 04-07-2013 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9564470)
The West Coast Offense.

It was West Virginia, not West Coast.

Coogs 04-07-2013 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9564490)
Because the signing of Alex Smith gives you approximately two years of solid QB play while bringing Geno up to speed.

Oakland, Buffalo, Jacksonville, Jets, Arizona don't have that luxury. (Palmer is the closest, but he's 10+ years in the league and even the Raiders jettisoned him for only a seventh rounder.) They don't have a guy of Alex Smith's level to immediately help right their floundering ships.

By picking Geno, those teams are more likely than not playing Geno much sooner rather than later.

The Chiefs have the luxury of bringing him along and making sure he's ready to go when his opportunity arises. Dorsey has that luxury after doing so with another very talented QB with good NFL upside in Rogers. The Chiefs can select Geno #1 overall and the majority of fans would be happy to see him learn the right way while Alex Smith starts for the next two years versus thrusting him into the starting position immediately.

Pretty savvy move by Dorsey/Reid in getting Alex Smith and having the potential to draft a huge upside player at the most important position on the field in Geno.

Agreed. I have been on this bandwagon since before we got Alex. The only part I might disagree with is that if the pick is Geno he doesn't automatically sit for two years. When he is ready... make the move.

If Alex Smith winds up being this era's Steve DeBerg, so be it. It's still a pretty good life.

crazycoffey 04-07-2013 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9564531)
Geno isn't coming from a WCO.

Air raid spread is pretty darn close to a WCO

penbrook 04-07-2013 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9564881)
Agreed. I have been on this bandwagon since before we got Alex. The only part I might disagree with is that if the pick is Geno he doesn't automatically sit for two years. When he is ready... make the move.

If Alex Smith winds up being this era's Steve DeBerg, so be it. It's still a pretty good life.

You sit Geno until Reid feels like he is ready to start.

Coogs 04-07-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9564889)
You sit Geno until Reid feels like he is ready to start.

Exactly!

crazycoffey 04-07-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9564881)
Agreed. I have been on this bandwagon since before we got Alex. The only part I might disagree with is that if the pick is Geno he doesn't automatically sit for two years. When he is ready... make the move.

If Alex Smith winds up being this era's Steve DeBerg, so be it. It's still a pretty good life.

Exactly not all our QB eggs are in one basket. Be it geno at 1.1 or another after a trade down.

penbrook 04-07-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9564899)
Exactly!

Could be day 1 or could be Year 2. But when Geno does come into start he wont have the rookie slump that Weeden or Bradford had just to name a few.

KC native 04-07-2013 01:56 PM

GENO BONERZZZZ DON'T REQUIRE VIAGRA ANYMORE

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx9j9uPG4J1qdrpdr.gif

Ming the Merciless 04-07-2013 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9564834)
It was West Virginia, not West Coast.

virginia has a coast dumb ass

aturnis 04-07-2013 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9564168)
I'll be honest, I haven't watched a ton of Alex Smith, especially in his first five years, but what I've seen goes against your ideas on his accuracy. I'm sure he's had his share of wild passes, and he doesn't have a great deep ball, but the numbers recently don't back you up. He takes too many sacks and has an average arm. Those are his weaknesses as I see.

Why don't you check and see what percentage of his passes traveled beyond the 10 or 15 yd range this past season when he completed 70% of his passes...

Dante84 04-07-2013 06:22 PM

Anyone have Insider?

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft...mith-potential

Messier 04-07-2013 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9565987)
Why don't you check and see what percentage of his passes traveled beyond the 10 or 15 yd range this past season when he completed 70% of his passes...

Since I don't care, I'll let you look. While you looking, find out what the league average is of passes beyond 15 yards.

aturnis 04-07-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9566042)
Since I don't care, I'll let you look. While you looking, find out what the league average is of passes beyond 15 yards.

It's been posted in a breakdown. It is significantly higher than the league average. As in, he led the league by a wide margin.

Someone have this status somewhere? Wendler?

Messier 04-07-2013 06:57 PM

He had a very respectable YPA, and I'm sure there was a lot of YAk yards, but CKs wasn't significantly higher.

I know Smith doesn't have the strongest arm in the league, but people here are trying to paint some sort of picture like any time he tries to throw down field the ball flutters in the air like a nerf ball or something.


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