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I hope we make some noise this year because we're going to be dogshit for the foreseeable future with our farm system. I'm sorry but I hate our reluctance to trade off pieces. Moore and co. Have always been too afraid to sell and it's going to leave us with a system that likely will leave us in the AL Central basement for another 4-5 years.

They gotta make the playoffs

penbrook

07-13-2017 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 12955291)

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cubs?src=hash">#Cubs</a> acquire Jose Quintana from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhiteSox?src=hash">#WhiteSox</a> for Eloy Jiménez, Dylan Cease, Matt Rose and Bryant Flete. <a href="https://twitter.com/MLB">@MLB</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBNetwork">@MLBNetwork</a></p>— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/885520538357125120">July 13, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Who won the trade?

siberian khatru

07-13-2017 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12955391)

Who won the trade?

Nobody has right now.

Quintana hasn't pitched an inning for the Cubs, and none of those other players have played an inning above A ball.

penbrook

07-13-2017 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 12955414)

Nobody has right now.

Well on paper who won the trade

BigCatDaddy

07-13-2017 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12955417)

Well on paper who won the trade

Does someone have to "win" a trade? That phrase drives me nuts.

Chiefspants

07-13-2017 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12955391)

Who won the trade?

Both sides seem very happy. Similar reaction that both fanbases had to the Cueto/Zo trades.

ChiefsCountry

07-13-2017 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12955419)

Does someone have to "win" a trade? That phrase drives me nuts.

You want both teams to win the trade. Especially if you give up prospects, you want those guys to be successful so teams keep trading with you.

KChiefs1

07-13-2017 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12955391)

Who won the trade?

Chisux got more for Quintana than they did Sale.

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siberian khatru

07-13-2017 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12955417)

Well on paper who won the trade

Why do you insist on looking at it that way?

The Cubs mortgaged a part of their future for an asset that they hope will help them win in 2017, 2018, 2019.

The Sox got a haul of prospects (including a top 5 out of 100) to further bolster a strong farm system (thanks, Chris Sale and Adam Eaton!). So they have loads of potential.

But as the Cueto-Zobrist trades demonstrate, it depends on what you're looking for. I'm more than happy to pocket that World Series title and don't give a whit what any of those players we traded ever do. To me, the Royals got what they wanted and that's all that matters.

Sean Manaea might win 3 Cy Young awards for Oakland, which is more value than Zobrist would've given them, but does that mean the Royals "lost" the trade?

It's possible both the Cubs and White Sox won that trade, if each gets what they want out of it.

penbrook

07-13-2017 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 12955425)

I'm just trying to get a gist on what we might have to give up for say a Dee Gordon or a back end starting pitcher

Unsmooth-Moment

07-13-2017 11:07 AM

White Sox are loaded in the farm. Damn.

Dartgod

07-13-2017 11:08 AM

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