Interesting Pham fact I'd have never guessed.

Tommy Pham had the lowest rate of swinging at pitches outside of the strike zone of any OFer in major league baseball with more than 500 PAs. 3rd lowest overall. If you threw him a ball, he spit on hit better than 80% of the time. That's damn impressive and puts him in Votto territory.

Pham's biggest problem prior to last season (apart from health) was a tendency to get himself out on bad pitches. The scuttle was it was because his eye issues were keeping him from seeing it, but the bottom line is he occasionally looked completely lost for long stretches prior to 2017.
Last year, however, he demonstrated pretty spectacular strike-zone judgment.

Next step would be moderate improvement on his inside the zone rates; he swings at about 60% of the pitches he sees in the zone and makes contact on about 87% of those. So we know that he has a really good feel for what he should lay off of, but if he gets a similarly strong feel for what he should be swinging at, there's no reason his overall production should decline significantly.

That's how he'd need to make up for an inevitable decline in batted ball luck and a reduced HR/FB ratio. If he swings at, say, 66% of the strikes he sees rather than 60%, he's gonna put a shitload more balls in play. It would reduce his BB rates but his K rates would improve and his number of base-hits would likely offset the number of walks due to a higher N on his BABIP figures. It would also likely help keep him from falling behind in counts by taking strikes and could see that ISO stay elevated.

Seems to be the next obvious and reasonable area of improvement for him.

I'm just busting balls. Lighten up fancis.

I want no part of Moustakas, I'm just fine with Greicko, or Gekko or however BRC spells it.

Also just busting balls, I life effing with you

:cuss:

Heyman says this and then doesnt say what moves is likely to happen. :shake:


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">cardinals made 1 huge move already. do they have another move (or two) left in them? here are some thoughts. <a href="https://t.co/nDjl0yhJ50">https://t.co/nDjl0yhJ50</a></p>&mdash; Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/943862861402689537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Orioles say they're going to take Machado off the market if the deals don't improve. Some guys with 'inside sources' said a couple days ago that the Orioles front office realized that Angelos wouldn't approve anything so they're going to take the bullet for him and say that no deals were sufficient to take to him for consideration.

So this would seem to align with that report. You float that the deals haven't been good enough, then you close the bidding.

I would love to see us make some more moves but I don't see the Cards FO trading any of our prized assets.

Gotta make sure they have plenty of backfill when they want to keep that .500 squad humming along in the bottom 1/2 of major league payrolls going forward.

If every one of those 'prized assets' hits, that should still be just enough to make sure we struggle every year to win a wild-card and have a shot at a 1-game playoff so we can get strafed by the Cubs or Dodgers.

we are not doing shit in 2018. I don't have a problem with them selling out the farm for the 2018 season.

Maybe these assets improve their value and we get a better haul in the 2018 off season. We have already saw they were willing to put $250+ million on the table to acquire another player. Now come 2019 we had better have a club that can realistically compete in a playoff against the Cubs and Dodgers.

The 2018 FA class is going to alter the landscape of baseball for quite awhile. And if the Cardinals don't so something to get their foot in the door, they're going to get left in the damn dust.

If they don't do anything in December of '17, they ain't gonna do much in '18 either. The former will be absolutely necessary to re-establish this franchise as a destination during the latter.

Another year of spinning their wheels with meathead at the helm will get you another year of second tier acquisitions and second tier outcomes.

If they can't establish themselves as at least a competitive team in their own division, no free agents will want to play here next year. They're setting themselves up to be the 90's Royals

Woah. Slow down now.

The late 90s/early 2000's Royals put together quite possibly the worst 16-year stretch of baseball ever.

From 1997 to 2012 they lost an average of 94 games. ON AVERAGE!

There were 5 teams in all of MLB that lost more than 94 games this year and that was their average season over 16 years. That's astonishingly awful. And they lost in such hapless fashion more often than not.

No, they're not approaching that territory. But they're looking to be a lot like the Baltimore Orioles in/around that same period of time - just absolutely completely forgettable. Never very good, never very bad. Maybe a playoff run here and there and maybe a 95 loss season here and there. But mostly just wildly irrelevant and banking on history to keep the fans interested.

with the addition of Ozuna, I don't think you can label this off season as "doing nothing".

Heyman says Cards looking at Wade Davis. Love Wader but that arm scares me.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">cards also have made back-end pen a priority: the great wade davis would seem to be an excellent fit. holland also would make sense (tho rox make most sense for him, if they can work it out)</p>&mdash; Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/944024317490286592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 22, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Not exactly what he said.

Just saw this on Birdios.....
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Carlos and Marcell crossed paths many times - sharing a training complex during Spring Training, at the All Star Game, and even at charity events. It was seemingly meant to be that Carlos and Marcell would become friends... and Ozuna eventually a Cardinal. It was something Carlos and Yadi had even joked with Ozuna about at the 2017 All Star Game, per Ben Hochman of the St. Louis Post Dispatch:

“Carlos and Yadi had joked around with me — ‘We’re going to bring you to the Cardinals!’” Ozuna recalled. “They’d joke around back and forth. So the nervousness went away when I thought of those little exchanges with Carlos and Yadi. If I’m being traded, at least I’m being traded to guys that I know. The anxiety and nervousness went away.”

Everything always seems to work out in the end. It is funny how that happens.


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Looks like he may have a chance to be happy here and we can resign him. We have the money to pay Ozuna his next contract. If he has a season in 2018 at 85% of 2017. Whats the new deal going to cost? Does he get $300 million?

We still need another bat. Thats another $200-$400 million. Thats still just a 1/3 of our new cable money. Are my guessing numbers correct?

No, he won't approach $300 million.

I'd say something in the neighborhood of 6/$132. And he won't get anywhere near that at '85%' of his 2017. A .785 OPS ain't gonna get ya paid.

If he stays in the 4-5 WAR range, he'll get something similar to what Upton just signed with a bit of a kicker for inflation. He's not getting a 10 year deal and he's not getting anywhere close to $30 million in AAV.

sounds reasonable.

I didn't know that the Disney/Fox deal meant that Fox Sports Midwest is sold to ESPN. That seems to change things.

Instead of getting 30% of the yearly profits, the Cardinals now get 30% of the sale. Do the Cardinals just put that on their Stadium debt and we don't see any of that money put towards players payroll? Or was this sale where they were counting on the cash to pay out $250 million to Stanton?

Also if they owned the TV station, it behooved them to keep a good team playing on those TV sets. Are they now just concerned with the butts in the seats at Bush?

I haven't seen information anywhere suggesting that the Cardinals are giving up their stake in FSMW as a condition of the sale. If you buy someone's stock who has the controlling shares of a company you don't get every share in the company, just what the seller owns and is willing to sell.

Saw a clip from the Hot Stove on the Cubs still discussing Machado from a few days ago and the rumor is, according to Nick Cafardo

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/r...am_LeadArticle

Lost me at Almora. You have to be absolutely certain that Machado will re-sign to add Almora into the deal, imo. If he didn't re-sign you have nobody to play CF after you move Baez to SS and Happ to 2B.

So you lose the top flight infield defense you built if he doesn't re-sign while simultaneously hurting the outfield defense too. And you also lose the only hitter on the 25 man roster that would make sense leading off (And **** you, Maddon. I can already hear you butting in with your "but, but, but Schwarber." Just NO!)

Russell and Montegomery I could get behind. Need to find someone in the minors to replace Almora, though.

Guess I should be thankful that there doesn't appear to be much traction to the rumor because it's a week old. Would think the Orioles would have already signed off on that deal.

Seems like a lot to pay for a one year rental, to me anyway.

I dont think anyone is going to sign him until he reaches free agency and the market decides his worth.

Fescoe was in tears this AM over reports that the cards are looking at Hosmer.

he should be happy. Most opinions expressed here say Gyrko is way better than Hosmer. So he makes us a worse team and we spend $120 million. How is that not a win-win for Fescoe?

Fescoe is a tool

Ended up being ur only AS

Why would you bump last years thread you ****ing dumbass

And possibly a racist

Normally, I tend to leave the Cardinals threads alone...unless it's a single post at the beginning of the season, but since PB took the liberty of bumping one that is a year old, I would say this is permissible....

CARDINALS SUCK!