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bowener 10-18-2017 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13147646)
Trek movies I-VI found some way to explain/kill off the technology advances, didn't they? Project Genesis was basically explained as, "It was a cool idea, but it didn't work and everything went to shit." Transwarp drive on the Excelsior went away because... Paris and Janeway turned into salamanders? I thought there was something explained in Undiscovered Country about why the transwarp drive wasn't possible.

In any case, Discovery has to do something about all the technology that ADVANCES plot. I don't give a shit about the futuristic-looking gizmos and gadgets that are out of place. As far as I'm concerned that's all presentation stuff which is superfluous to better story telling.

The REAL problem is this spore shit. It has no place in this timeline. They're going to have to find some way to kill off this technology. I think they will. I HOPE they will.

I'm absolutely with Frazod on this. God... this could be so interesting. It's decent, but it could be so much better if it weren't a goddamn prequel.

Spoiler!


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Spoiler!

Hammock Parties 10-20-2017 09:21 AM

I can't wait to watch this show. LMAO

https://i.imgur.com/29RX7Vw.jpg

Discuss Thrower 10-23-2017 10:16 AM

Spoiler!

Frazod 10-23-2017 11:17 AM

Lorca is far and away the best character in the show. Sort of like if somebody took Commodore Decker, Gowron and Gul Dukat and threw them in a blender. Cold blooded, crazy and broken, yet gets results and sees the big picture of the war far more clearly than the typical warm and fuzzy Star Fleet types. Plus, his character's ****-what-everybody-else-thinks attitude makes the whole Burnham redemption angle work.

If you haven't seen last night's episode yet
Spoiler!


Love it.

DaneMcCloud 10-23-2017 12:05 PM

http://ew.com/tv/2017/10/23/star-tre...-for-season-2/

Star Trek: Discovery renewed for season 2

The voyages of the USS Discovery will continue on CBS All Access.

The streaming service has renewed Star Trek: Discovery for a second season. Sources say current showrunners Aaron Harberts and Gretchen J. Berg are signing on for another tour of duty as well.

“In just six episodes, Star Trek: Discovery has driven subscriber growth, critical acclaim and huge global fan interest for the first premium version of this great franchise,” said Marc DeBevoise, president of CBS Interactive. “This series has a remarkable creative team and cast who have demonstrated their ability to carry on the Star Trek legacy.”

It’s still unclear how many subscribers Trek has fueled and how many viewers are actually watching the series — CBS hasn’t released either number — yet a renewal seemed likely at any rate due to the show’s heavily promoted tentpole status on the subscription service plus CBS’ heavy start-up world-building investment in the series (additional episodes add to the show’s total cost but decrease the average spent per episode overall). A relatively early renewal was expected as well since the show’s creative team would have to start work on a second season soon in order to have episodes ready for next fall (season 1 started filming last January).

Discovery airs Sunday nights on CBS All Access. The show’s fall finale airs Nov. 12

Rausch 10-23-2017 12:46 PM

The Orville still has SJW bullshit and is still better...

unlurking 10-23-2017 07:12 PM

Latest episode with a full on holodeck continues to destroy the technology timeline. :(

Discuss Thrower 10-23-2017 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 13172979)
Latest episode with a full on holodeck continues to destroy the technology timeline. :(

The Animated Series had an episode with the original 1701 Enterprise having a recreation deck outfitted with holographic projectors.

As long as you don't see Lorca use a holo-Thomspon to gun down Klingons, it's not techincally breaking the canon.

Frazod 10-23-2017 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 13173317)
The Animated Series had an episode with the original 1701 Enterprise having a recreation deck outfitted with holographic projectors.

As long as you don't see Lorca use a holo-Thomspon to gun down Klingons, it's not techincally breaking the canon.

Definitely sounds like a Lorca thing to do, though. :bang:

BigRedChief 11-03-2017 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11864542)
There's far more money with OTA networks than the subscription model.

When shows like The Big Bang Theory and Two and a Half Men draw 20 million viewers per week, the network is earning hundreds of millions per season and even more when it goes to syndication (if it's produced by the network). They'd lose that money moving to a $5.99 per month subscription model.

For example, HBO complains about the $60 million dollar budget for 13 episodes of Game of Thrones, yet NBC had no problem paying the six "Friends" one million per episode for a 24 episode season, or $144 million per season, just for the actors. They did it for ER, too.

Streaming just can't compete with that at this time.

if you are not paying for the product, you're the product.

Discuss Thrower 11-12-2017 11:26 PM

Spoiler!

DaneMcCloud 11-21-2017 08:45 PM

Fans of “Star Trek” vary wildly with some preferring the original series, some the spin-offs, and some the more recent J.J. Abrams films.

With the launch of CBS & Netflix’s “Star Trek: Discovery” a few months ago, the fanbase again has found itself divided. ‘Discovery’ has earned a fanbase, whilst others prefer FOX’s “The Orville” which is effectively “Star Trek: The Next Generation” with occasional genital-related jokes and a family-friendly setting.

‘Discovery’ has been mostly well-received, but if there is one common complaint about it from the fans it’s that the series doesn’t appear to fit into existing “Star Trek” continuity – the inconsistencies within long established canon are too many and too varied to be easily explained. The show’s producers have previously made it clear the show is set in the ‘Prime Universe’ like all of Trek prior to 2009, and not the ‘Kelvin Timeline’ of the films since the Abrams-directed reboot. Yet ‘Discovery’ veers even further away from established Trek lore in those films not just in terms of onscreen technology but character elements and Starfleet’s capabilities. This is most notably seen with Burnham being Spock’s half-sister and the Discovery’s spore drive, neither of which have previously been mentioned in established Trek history. Producer Aaron Harberts has now revealed to Metro UK that a big element of the show’s second season will be how the new series reconciles with the old canon:

“We have ten years until the original series comes into play. It is a challenge creatively because we have lots of choices in terms of how do we reconcile this [Spore] Drive? This surrogate daughter of Sarek? How do we reconcile these things the closer we get to the original series? That’s going to be a big discussion that we have in season two.

What’s so fun about the character of Michael, just because she hasn’t been spoken about, doesn’t mean she didn’t exist. A lot of the writers on our show are deeply involved in Star Trek, their knowledge is some of the finest around, they really do help us find areas where we can steer around things. But the Spore drive? Who knows? It could be classified. There are many options.”


The final episodes of the first half of the first season suggested the Spore Drive could be used for jumps to alternate realities, an explanation that could work in canon if this was simply another alternate Trek timeline. The second half of the first season will continue from January 7th.

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I haven't watch this series yet but why does it continually sound like a cluster****?

unlurking 11-21-2017 08:52 PM

Because it is.

Yay! Alternate reality resolves all issues. Lame. :(

Sadly, it has a ton of potential with the amount of $$$ they are spending on FX and an actually interesting story. It's just badly done and what they've done to the Klingons is an abomination.

Frazod 11-21-2017 10:09 PM

Imagine it's about a guy who drives a car in the 1960s, yet the car looks like it's from 2020.

These clowns were so intent on making everything look cool, sleek, modern and different that they clearly flipped the bird to everybody who'd ever watched Star Trek in the past. That's it in the nutshell.

If you're new to Star Trek, or have only experienced the Abrams movies, you won't care. If you're an old school Star Trek guy like me, it will piss you off. You'll either accept it based on the other things the show provides, which I for the most part have, or you won't.

But I still don't like it.

I still prefer the fan made Star Trek Continues to this. Vastly.

Frazod 11-21-2017 10:19 PM

It should also be pointed out that J.J. did the same thing with his movies. They didn't look right for the period, the technology was way too different/advanced, and the gigantic spaces (filmed in breweries, IIRC) were absolutely ridiculous. You can't play all that off on the timeline change. It was also a giant **** YOU to the old time fans.

I hated that too, but over the past eight years I got used to it. Still sucks, though.


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