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DJ's left nut 03-13-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RyFo18 (Post 9495015)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Yes. RT @<a href="https://twitter.com/pff">pff</a>: In 2012 RT @<a href="https://twitter.com/erikfrenz">erikfrenz</a>: According to @<a href="https://twitter.com/pff">pff</a>: Welker's drop rate in the slot: 12.9 %. Amendola's drop rate in the slot: 1.9 %.</p>&mdash; Erik Frenz (@ErikFrenz) <a href="https://twitter.com/ErikFrenz/status/312000171477184514">March 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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BUT LOTS OF CATCHES!!!!!!!!

It has nothing to do with the system or force-feeding the guy 13 targets/gm or anything.

Routes. It's all routes. Wes Welker has figured out a way to create the most confusing crossing route in the history of crossing routes.

Mile High Mania 03-13-2013 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RyFo18 (Post 9495015)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Yes. RT @<a href="https://twitter.com/pff">pff</a>: In 2012 RT @<a href="https://twitter.com/erikfrenz">erikfrenz</a>: According to @<a href="https://twitter.com/pff">pff</a>: Welker's drop rate in the slot: 12.9 %. Amendola's drop rate in the slot: 1.9 %.</p>&mdash; Erik Frenz (@ErikFrenz) <a href="https://twitter.com/ErikFrenz/status/312000171477184514">March 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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What is the actual games played and targets for the 2 the last 2 seasons?

Mile High Mania 03-13-2013 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RyFo18 (Post 9494986)
Denver got better today. It sucks, but it is what it is. The good news is that in 2015 none of their top 3 WRs will be under contract, unless they extend Decker next year.

Lots of time to focus on ... 2015, no?

RyFo18 03-13-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 9495023)
Lots of time to focus on ... 2015, no?

Sure. The Welker contract gives them flexibility. I thought it would be more.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-13-2013 06:55 PM

Now ,if Manning would just go down with a herniated disc we'd all be like LMAO :p :D :thumb:

Jobomb 03-13-2013 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RyFo18 (Post 9494986)
Denver got better today. It sucks, but it is what it is. The good news is that in 2015 none of their top 3 WRs will be under contract, unless they extend Decker next year.

They'll have cap room along with bigger problems in a couple of years if Manning retires. It will be interesting. Von will get big, big money.

Mother****erJones 03-13-2013 07:41 PM

Id still take Welker at 2 yrs over 5 yrs of Amendola who cant stay healthy. Come on now.

listopencil 03-13-2013 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9493949)

Edit: as for Dumervil, it is still in talks but the financing for the most part is done.

From Mike Klis:

Dumervil decision likely to wait til Friday

Another day with no progress in contract talks between the Broncos and defensive end Elvis Dumervil.

The two sides do not appear close on how to re-do the $12 million salary Dumervil is scheduled to make in 2013. That salary would become guaranteed if he’s on the team’s roster Saturday.

The Broncos are hoping Dumervil will accept a pay cut. Dumervil’s agent, Marty Magid, sent in a proposal where his client would take less money in 2013, but that reduction would then be added on to the final two years of the existing contract. Dumervil is on the books for a non-guaranteed $10 million in 2014 and $8 million in 2015.

If the two sides don’t agree on a new deal by Friday, the Broncos may release Dumervil and sign veteran pass-rushing end Dwight Freeney.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/...-friday/18880/

ClevelandBronco 03-13-2013 08:47 PM

Wes Welker has always reminded me of a white Wes Welker.

Amnorix 03-13-2013 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9494496)
Patriot fans should be pissed.



Why? If Amendola stays healthy this isn't really a problem. They went younger and Amendola has comparable skills. All else being equal, that's fine. I will say that Welker's stock has been hurt by some key drops the last two years. Before that, I hardly remember any drops, but the last two years, OUCH.

We love him. He's been a fan favorite, but we've seen this play before. Older players get churned over RELENTLESSLY under Belichick. Richard Seymour was only the most glaring example.

Bottom line, if Amendola and the TEs stay healthy and we get a solid Z, then our offense should be perfectly fine.

DJ's left nut 03-13-2013 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 9495525)
Why? If Amendola stays healthy this isn't really a problem. They went younger and Amendola has comparable skills. All else being equal, that's fine. I will say that Welker's stock has been hurt by some key drops the last two years. Before that, I hardly remember any drops, but the last two years, OUCH.

We love him. He's been a fan favorite, but we've seen this play before. Older players get churned over RELENTLESSLY under Belichick. Richard Seymour was only the most glaring example.

Bottom line, if Amendola and the TEs stay healthy and we get a solid Z, then our offense should be perfectly fine.

You're nuts.

You guys just lost the most dangerous receiver in football and a guy that is clearly one of the greatest WRs of all time...

Jesus...the more I read it, the dumber it looks.

Exoter - you're an idiot.

Amnorix 03-13-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 9494830)
Durability is his problem, only played 1 full season and missed 20 games the last 2 seasons. Good luck with all that.


Wes has been very, very durable, but at some point he's going to start breaking down pretty fast, I think. He's taken an absolutely hellacious beating the last five years. With the sheer volume of catches he's made, it's almost RB-esque. That might be part of why the Pats want to move on. :shrug:

Not saying he WILL break down in the next two years, mind you. If there's one thing I've learned, it's NOT to underestimate Welker. Guy is a stud.

Sorter 03-13-2013 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 9495525)
Why? If Amendola stays healthy this isn't really a problem. They went younger and Amendola has comparable skills. All else being equal, that's fine. I will say that Welker's stock has been hurt by some key drops the last two years. Before that, I hardly remember any drops, but the last two years, OUCH.

We love him. He's been a fan favorite, but we've seen this play before. Older players get churned over RELENTLESSLY under Belichick. Richard Seymour was only the most glaring example.

Bottom line, if Amendola and the TEs stay healthy and we get a solid Z, then our offense should be perfectly fine.


And he wasn't even that old.


Bottom line, Pats will not over pay for old players unless they are HOF talents (Randy Moss says "**** yeah bitches") but even Randy didn't get overpaid.

Amnorix 03-13-2013 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9495548)
You're nuts.

You guys just lost the most dangerous receiver in football and a guy that is clearly one of the greatest WRs of all time...

Jesus...the more I read it, the dumber it looks.

Exoter - you're an idiot.


ROFL. He is an idito, but if Welker doesn't have 8+ catches, at least three of which are converting first down, against you guys in his first game against the Chiefs, I'll eat my hat.

But yeah, he's not what Exoter seems to think.

Amnorix 03-13-2013 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9495557)
And he wasn't even that old.


Bottom line, Pats will not over pay for old players unless they are HOF talents (Randy Moss says "**** yeah bitches") but even Randy didn't get overpaid.

Yep.

Seymour was 29 when we traded him away. It was him or Wilfork, and Pats decided to keep Wilfork. Brutal to lose him, but the right call. According to reports he wasn't the best locker room guy for the Pats either, so between that and the mega-contract he wanted and his age, his time was up in NE.


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