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Didnt Marvel get Blade back? I really enjoyed the first 2 Blades.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11946533)

The Spider-Man films are unbearable to watch for me. First off, Tobey MaGuire is a twerpy schuck, Franco isn't believable and DaFoe was seriously overacting.

I'm on record as absolutely hating the Avengers and have even bothered to see Age of Ulton yet. Thor 2 was garbage, too. Because of the Avengers and Thor 2, I took a pass on Captain America 2 but bought on DVD and didn't even spring for Blu Ray because I expected to be disappointed.

Fortunately, it was excellent, which gave me enough faith to actually go to the theater to see Ant Man, which is my favorite Marvel movie to date, followed by GoG.

I agree with that, but I think he was talking about the most recent two Spidey flicks. Which were much better, but not better than a lot of the movies he listed, IMO.

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 11946938)

I agree with that, but I think he was talking about the most recent two Spidey flicks. Which were much better, but not better than a lot of the movies he listed, IMO.

The last 2 Spidey flicks much better???

They are the reason Marvel got his rights back.

Sony had no idea what to do with the character

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 11946947)

The last 2 Spidey flicks much better???

They are the reason Marvel got his rights back.

Sony had no idea what to do with the character

They ARE better than the Rainmi versions. That doesn't mean they're Marvel Studios quality, but they're certainly improvements. My biggest problem with them is that we just don't need any more ****ing origin stories. We don't need to know how Superman, Spidey or even Batman became who they are. Lesser characters, absolutely, which is why it worked so well in things like Ant-Man and GotG.

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 11946968)

I can agree with this.

I think they were well made, but the stories sucked. Like I mentioned, Sony had no idea where to go with the character or storylines.

It sounds like Marvel isn't doing any origin with him, just dropping him into the universe which is the right thing to do at this point

IMO, the thing that hits home is that this movie IS good storytelling, and nobody expected anything like that, especially considering the genre and how Avengers went down. Expectations were that it would be a superhero eye porn type of movie, but instead it ended up being a layered, nuanced story told that just worked and hit home with viewers.

Still can't believe it was the guys that did Park and Rec that directed this, lol. Fantastic job.

I actually was talking about the Raimi/Maguire Spidey flicks. The new ones are The Amazing Spiderman. They're good but not as good as 1 and 2 from the 2000s.

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They ARE better than the Rainmi versions.

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Lesser characters, absolutely, which is why it worked so well in things like Ant-Man and GotG.

The thing is, though, is that those movies could have been epic disasters.

A talking tree? A talking squirrel? A green female alien (Star Trek, anyone?). A human "plucked" from the Earth at a young age that's later thrust into a galactic battle? It sounds more like a super cheesy, cult 80's film than a gigantic blockbuster. I give all credit to James Gunn (a guy from St. Louis, BTW, that is SUPER cool).

As for Ant Man, I remember him as a kid and always thought it was kind of cool but also ridiculous. That script was in development for seven years with Edgar Wright and Marvel finally said "Enough. You're out". Then, Peyton Reed (Who?) was hired, then Paul ****ing Rudd and Adam McKay REWROTE the ****er. How this movie even was made is insane.

Evangeline Lily? The girl with the perpetual question mark on her face during LOST? Paul Rudd, the Apatow guy? Adam McKay of Anchorman fame? CGI Michael Douglas? It sounded like a disaster, a huge write-off.

But, it worked.

IMO, it's the best stand-alone Marvel movie, ever.

Toby McGuire Peter Parker was more true to the character.

Garfield was fine, but they tried to downplay the geekiness of Parker and made him more into a hipster skater type.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11947158)

Are they? Interesting. I really like Andrew Garfield as an actor and admittedly, don't care much for Tobey MaGuire.

That said, I just couldn't stomach watching yet another version of the same version of Spiderman that I've seen since I was a kid in the early 70's. I mean, come on.

The thing is, though, is that those movies could have been epic disasters.

A talking tree? A talking squirrel? A green female alien (Star Trek, anyone?). A human "plucked" from the Earth at a young age that's later thrust into a galactic battle? It sounds more like a super cheesy, cult 80's film than a gigantic blockbuster. I give all credit to James Gunn (a guy from St. Louis, BTW, that is SUPER cool).

As for Ant Man, I remember him as a kid and always thought it was kind of cool but also ridiculous. That script was in development for seven years with Edgar Wright and Marvel finally said "Enough. You're out". Then, Peyton Reed (Who?) was hired, then Paul ****ing Rudd and Adam McKay REWROTE the ****er. How this movie even was made is insane.

Evangeline Lily? The girl with the perpetual question mark on her face during LOST? Paul Rudd, the Apatow guy? Adam McKay of Anchorman fame? CGI Michael Douglas? It sounded like a disaster, a huge write-off.

But, it worked.

IMO, it's the best stand-alone Marvel movie, ever.

Yep. Marvel shits gold. Saw both in the theater. Because Marvel has earned it.