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luv 10-08-2012 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 8992324)
Look I know its now your full time job to track down every single person on the Internet who isn't all in on this and argue with them...I mean we all have our things we love in the world but I have been very clear with my words in this thread that you guys made your point and that continuing to do the same thing won't mean more pressure it will just make the fanbase look like angry joyless pricks. You can't "make the point more" by doing it more.

The point is made more at this point by people not showing up.

I think a lot of people (people in general, not people on this site) would agree with the portion of this post in bold. I understand you have money for more banners and such, which is why I think you should be a bit more positive whenever you do another one. In either case, I agree that the point was made yesterday, and any more banners will just be fans communicating with the organization. Although, now, it's more like just sending a huge text that several people can see. Future banners won't have as much of an impact as yesterday's did (which is why people are wanting to up the ante by creating a billboard or taking it to a road game).

I think the social media thing is great, though. By joining saveourchiefs.com, people tie themselves to the cause. A banner seemingly speaks for a fan base as a whole (all about perception). I think that's why people were so divided over it. Not everyone wanted to be tied with it. Just like saying the whole stadium cheered Cassel's injury yesterday whenever not everyone there did. We all got grouped together. You can say that you didn't, but your voice is lost among the crowd mentality which the media has created.

Bearcat 10-08-2012 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 8991872)
I think the "send a message" part of this was done and what can be done effectively has plateaued. Its just a lack of butts in seats now that will make change.

I don't agree that it's plateaued, but the point of diminishing returns is definitely something to think about, and everyone knows the strongest message you can send is not buying the product.

I don't think another banner is a bad idea, mostly due to yesterday's gameplan and Cassel's injury. It's one thing to complain about the starting quarterback while not really knowing if the alternative is any better, and if Cassel was healthy we'd basically be giving the same message of "let's try something new"... but, Quinn might start next week. He might look good or he might look worse than Cassel... then Crennel might name Cassel the starter or Quinn... tl;dr - a lot could happen in the next week, which would change the message.

Eventually though, I think there does need to be some kind of call to action.

luv 10-08-2012 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 8992357)

I think the social media thing is great, though. By joining saveourchiefs.com, people tie themselves to the cause. A banner seemingly speaks for a fan base as a whole (all about perception). I think that's why people were so divided over it. Not everyone wanted to be tied with it. Just like saying the whole stadium cheered Cassel's injury yesterday whenever not everyone there did. We all got grouped together. You can say that you didn't, but your voice is lost among the crowd mentality which the media has created.

In rereading this, I do have to say that I think it will help if you ultimately put the site (saveourchiefs.com) name with future banners and such.

Bearcat 10-08-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 8992356)
Actually yes. You were condescending to me just minutes earlier. I know all of you think you are doing God's work and saving the world from itself when in reality you are just a bunch of people with too much time on their hands. I am not a man to tell other people what to do with their hard earned money so all the best even though after an original great idea you guys are just starving for attention and spinning your tires.

Starving for attention? They grabbed the attention of thousands of people in a week... they should do something with it.

|Zach| 10-08-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8992367)
I don't agree that it's plateaued, but the point of diminishing returns is definitely something to think about, and everyone knows the strongest message you can send is not buying the product.

I don't think another banner is a bad idea, mostly due to yesterday's gameplan and Cassel's injury. It's one thing to complain about the starting quarterback while not really knowing if the alternative is any better, and if Cassel was healthy we'd basically be giving the same message of "let's try something new"... but, Quinn might start next week. He might look good or he might look worse than Cassel... then Crennel might name Cassel the starter or Quinn... tl;dr - a lot could happen in the next week, which would change the message.

Eventually though, I think there does need to be some kind of call to action.

I agree it isn't a "bad" idea but it changes nothing about the status quo of things. Whereas the act of doing the banner in the first place was a good idea because it made the frustration clear. It won't be made clearer with another

SPATCH 10-08-2012 01:35 PM

Whoever is in charge with the tweets for @SaveOurChiefs: tone it down a bit with the negativity toward Cassel. Hitting a man while he is down does not exactly have mass appeal (especially with our behavior being scrutinized following the Winston interview).

Tribal Warfare 10-08-2012 01:37 PM

Actually just thinking about it, the best time to do it is the Steeler game. So let this "bad publicity" die down then do it again once Haley pushes Pioli's shit in.

DMAC 10-08-2012 01:38 PM

Fly another one that just says "GO CHIEFS! www.saveourchiefs.com"

KC Dan 10-08-2012 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 8992375)
I agree it isn't a "bad" idea but it changes nothing about the status quo of things. Whereas the act of doing the banner in the first place was a good idea because it made the frustration clear. It won't be made clearer with another

how about - "Get well Matty, Go KC & Quinn! Die in a Fire Pioli!

ghak99 10-08-2012 01:39 PM

I believe it has to be turned into a Pioli or the Fans message that clearly states we are behind the players.

Having SaveOurChiefs at the end of the banner might convey the team support, but the first half of the message needs to put the pressure directly on Pioli's contract situation.

|Zach| 10-08-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by the_spatula (Post 8992397)
Whoever is in charge with the tweets for @SaveOurChiefs: tone it down a bit with the negativity toward Cassel. Hitting a man while he is down does not exactly have mass appeal (especially with our behavior being scrutinized following the Winston interview).

The people behind this. They are all about it.

BOXERAJ 10-08-2012 01:43 PM

Pioli=Epic Fail Saveourchiefs.com

Molitoth 10-08-2012 01:44 PM

cassel is the problem, and pioli is the root of the problem.

BourbonMan 10-08-2012 01:49 PM

How about:
AL DAVIS=PIOLI SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM

Marty Mac Ver 2.0 10-08-2012 01:51 PM

Will pass it along to the team

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Originally Posted by the_spatula (Post 8992397)
Whoever is in charge with the tweets for @SaveOurChiefs: tone it down a bit with the negativity toward Cassel. Hitting a man while he is down does not exactly have mass appeal (especially with our behavior being scrutinized following the Winston interview).



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