That too...

Read what my post was in response to. There are clearly good owners and bad owners. But the good owners aren't ones with good "football IQ". Or that is to say that their football IQ isn't the difference maker. They aren't making decisions about personnel. You think Kraft tells Bellichek what to do? Kraft has influence on how the team is run overall and that's not about football IQ. You don't need to know the game of football at a high level to be a good NFL owner. That was my point.

I don't really like the house analogy only because the overall judging of a house is based off of opinion or feel while an NFL team are results.

1. Clark is 5 years in so by your own criteria you don't have but about 20% of the proof you need to call him a bad owner.

2. The Chiefs contended for a SB in 2003, 9 years ago, 13-3 #1 seed, great QB and home field. Sorry that IS competing for a trophy. That team should and could have won a playoff game.

So by your own criteria Hunt ownership isn't a failure.

Thank you.
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Dude you are contradicting yourself.

Yeah if those things happen he will deserve the hate.

yes, i do. and the proof is in the pudding. kraft is a ****ing football genius compared to clark.

2003 we were the #2 seed.

I agree.. But he did know enough about football to give the man who is football guy the final say in personnel decisions. It can be risky, but even if not in front of the camera, he stayed close enough to the two (BB and SP) to make sure shit-for-brains SP didn't F-up the club like he has KC. I'm sure when SP got to KC he made sure CHunt gave him the final say.. And Chunt never dug deep enough to figure out just how important SP not having the final say was... I'm no big fan of Haley, but I'd love for him to spill his guts TOTALLY in the near future... I know it won't happen, but it would be a great read.

At a minimum CHunt is certainly left wondering WTF he let happen! Kraft just laughs and says, "stick around kid, you have a lot to learn about the game, and you just got gamed..." Maybe not...

I see the results being because he is a smart owner that got his HC/GM hire right. I don't think its about his actual knowledge of football. Oh, and Tom Brady.

That is the one grey area I think is justifiable with getting on Clark about. Him not knowing anything about Arrowhead Anxiety ect. I still think Clark deserves this off season before we panic but I would have liked him to be hovering around Pioli just a little bit more.

That being said, if you are going to credit Kraft for being smart enough to let BB do his thing, Clark did the same with Pioli. Just happens that BB isn't the idiot that Pioli is. Oh, and Tom Brady.

nobody is hating on rich kids. clark hasn't done well. in fact, he's really pissed a lot of fans off. so, there's that.

And I was in section 124, row 19 that day when we got sent home after watching PM audible the Colts to a win in what I think was about the loudest I've ever heard Arrowhead!!!... And only the clock stopped PM, at the half, from scoring drives.... And Dick cried days later when Greg was axed, that was touching!! JFC, don't remind me!

A guy in this thread certainly was doing that. Chiefsforlife58 or whatever.

and so, what? kraft is "lucky" ???? well then, clark is unlucky.

I think kraft worked his ass off to become the owner of the pats -- he worked for that.

clark? no. he has failed as an NFL owner also. so, there's that.