I haven't went that direction because I read (well listened to) Bad Blood by John Carreyrou. It was pretty definitive. I also listened to Thicker Than Water by Tyler Schultz, who was one of the whistleblowers. His grandpa, former SOS George Schultz was a major investor, and the family dynamics were interesting as hell. And it was pretty amazing to see the story from the perspective from a green 20 year old kid.

As interesting as the story is, I'd recommend getting the entire story from the book.

Same thing with We Crashed. This spring I listened to The Cult of We by Eliot Brown and Maureen Farrell. It is also pretty definitive.

I can't imagine a few hours of heavily dramatized dialogue will take the place of 30 hour books.

I'm a total nerd for business. And the frauds these guys manage to pull off for a shocking amount of time never ceases to amaze. I always feel like I need a shower when I'm done, but I can't help myself. I just have to listen to the books.

I just finished Ted Lasso - which was truly a joy - and am deciding between Super Pumped (uber), The Drop Out (Theranos), and WeCrashed (WeWork).

So much corporate misbehavior, so little time.

I really do recommend you read the books if you’re at all interested in the stories.

Just started, promising, star-studded.

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Can't believe you waited this long to finish Lasso. Great show.

Suburra : Blood on Rome is good. We’re in the second of 3 seasons. It’s less action, and equal on the drama as Gomorra. Although I like Gomorra more, this one has a good story to follow. Next on the list is Romanzo Criminale. I’ve heard rumblings of it being BETTER than Gomorra, but that’s gonna be hard to pull off. Would definitely recommend Suburra though. There’s a movie that came out before the series which starts it off.

That looks pretty good. Oldman has an amazing range.

For those who are intrigued, but not enough to track down the gist, it's about the . . . dregs, . . . of British Intelligence, . . . whether they burned out, crossed a muckety-muck, or failed a high profile op, or were simply never all that skilled to begin with, are assigned to a kind of placeholder/scutwork division with limited resources, . . . Then when some of them happen across some ominous intel, they summon their capabilities and maximize their resources to unveil an explosive plot.

Kind of a Rocky meets Bourne Identity. Or a cul-de-sac of the byzantine tapestry of intelligence work LeCarre would have written about.

Another promising start . . . Could be a mess, but the first ep was decent. Lots of familiar faces, and names in the production crew.

No way to know how it will turn out, but the premise appears a little optimistic, a little wacky, a little chaotic, and at least primarily aiming for funny.

Gave me vibes closest to The Detour, the wild, creative, if a little 'out there' comedy with Jason Jones and Natalie Zea from a few years back, with 'the optimist everyman' tested by eccentric locals and absurd situations. And there were legit chuckles interspersed in the 'premise setup' pilot.

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I'm including each of your mentioned books on my wish list. There was a scene in Episode 6 where George and Tyler Schultz are at Elizabeth's birthday party, and Tyler is about to tell his grandfather his suspicions in a private room when Elizabeth walks in on them, and then she sternly confronts Tyler when George walks back to the party. Then the next scene at the party is Tyler performing a song he wrote for Elizabeth's party in her honor.

I said, "Hmm -- I wonder if anything like that happened in real life?"

And my wife, who had been watching the entire series with me, said, "Wait - is this based on a true story?"

That actually happens. It’s in the thicker than water book. Insanity.

How in the hell did Chad make it to season 2? I’m baffled.

LOL No clue. The 45 seconds I watched before the wife shitcanned it is all I've ever seen.

My wife was not thrilled.

Well, I just finished season 1 of "Foundation" on Apple TV.

Man, that first episode is outstanding, some of the best sci-fi I can remember seeing.

Kind of sad how it all collapsed after just a few episodes. I really felt like the show limped to its conclusion.

I fear season 2 is going to be an absolute trashfire.

Love is in the air [and on the outdoor furniture]

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only 2 episodes in but 'From' is pretty creepy.

From is way better than its profile and popularity would indicate.

I'm sure, to the extent anyone even knows it exists, some are staying away for fear it will go nowhere like LOST, but it's generated some legit creepy and intriguing moments.

I guess it could still fall apart, plenty of them do. But it's better thus far than I expected, and it's kind of weird how far under the radar it is. But then being on Epix and having a title like 'From' doesn't exactly position it for buzz.

Heck, even googling 'from recaps' or 'from reviews' generates useless links because 'from' is so generic.

Did you finish it? Also, I've yet to watch one single minute of Lost but I think that'll be a good (but lengthy) binge in the fall.

The season finale hasn't aired yet.

And regarding LOST, I would think it would be an entirely different experience now as opposed to when it aired. When it aired, there were so so so many little details that looked to be adding up to something. This is back when 'easter eggs' were still a fairly new draw for serialized television. People spent eons online hypothesizing and theorizing and drawing connections. And the big disappointment wasn't so much that the show itself sucked, or that the overall narrative was worthless, more that all of those details and the theories they gave birth to were all just red herrings.

If you watch the show now, with all those blogs breaking everything down disused or defunct, you'll more likely miss the details that were the draw for the show, but you'll also get to concentrate on the broader narrative without cluttering your mind with red herrings.

I have no way of knowing whether that will be a better or worse experience, but it is an interesting prospect.

Will give it a whirl to find out, but yeah; some of the past series haven't aged well or maybe what 'worked' then - doesn't now? Thanks for the info.

From reminds me of The Mist (movie) or even Black Summer, I love these types.

I started to watch Barry during season 1 but I didn’t stick with it, is it really good?

It's tough to pin down, but I'd characterize it as well above average.

It's certainly unique, and it certainly has iconic scenes. I'd say it even has iconic episodes.

It can be a little frenetic and navel-gazing, but the multiple payoffs are worth the occasional eye-rolls.

It kind of stitches together a number of well-worn tropes into something fresh and new, if that makes sense.

Basically, 'Barry' is an American-made killing machine. . . A military-trained ops-man, who is a little at-sea, a little PTSD, after his discharge, so he teams up with a guy who farms him out for contract kills for typical underworld types back in-country.

In the course of a hit gone bad, he is looking for a place to hide out and happens on a shitty acting class run by a wannabe actor/teacher played by Henry Winkler.

Barry has an epiphany in that one class, hanging out, and now has a strong desire to change his life and become a thesbian, but his former contacts, and his former targets aren't as enchanted with his desire to change career trajectory.

The rest is dark comedy juggling his new friends in this acting class and the underworld folk who either want him to keep killing or want to kill him for prior killings.

I trust from that description you can suss out some of the inspirations, but like I said the quality of the show is the fresh take and the commitment to the bit.

Starting out on Minx, promising thus far. Jake Johnson is perfect fo the role he's in. . . But thought of you and wanted to mention Jessica Lowe is a featured player in it as well.

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I saw that a few weeks ago, I don’t think I can watch it though, I don’t have HBO Max.

She looked really good in that trailer.

Just burned through The Shield. I think I'll slot that one right behind Breaking Bad as my #2. The ending was perfection in the worst possible way.

I’ve been binging the Breaking Bad marathon on AMC. Such a fantastic show. Kafkaesque.

Did you try Gomorra or Suburra yet?

Gomorra is definitely on my list.

That’s cool. We just finished Suburra : Blood on Rome. It’s on Netflix. Really good. The first season is good, but kinda sets up for seasons 2 and 3 to be full blown wild. Def suggest it as well. It’s not wuite as dark and gritty as Gomorra, but it has its moments. And they’re pretty powerful. There’s a movie that starts out the series, but you don’t have to watch it first. Also Gomorra has a movie that you should watch after the end of the series. It’s called The Immortal.

I’m enjoying Tokyo Vice on HBO. Really solid Japanese underworld crime drama. Tokyo is such an amazing city.

That’s next on my list, soon as I finish Top Boy.

This isn't so much about a 'must see' as a bit of interesting* trivia about a 'decent enough' Thursday night sitcom.

On last night's Ghosts, they introduced a new ghost character, Stephanie Killed on Prom Night. Listen to the voice and see if it sound familiar. . . . Don't cheat with google-fu.

Hint - it's not so much 'her' voice that sounds familiar

I’ve been old for quite awhile now, friend.

After watching 9 episodes of From, I'd give it a strong scoring. It was right up my alley as they say.

Was debating this, will take the plunge. Thanks!

Seconded. Well done series.

She was fantastic. This was well done too. Watched the other We Work and Thernos series too. These all a fantastic revel of the "celebrity" culture invading business and the rich who don't want to miss out on the next Google or Facebook.

Thernos everyone lose their money and she is going to jail at some point. But, the We work couple got to keep a Billion collars? How was that possible? It was all a fraud. They had evidence he was taking money meant for the business and using it for personal gain. Building himself houses, putting millions in his personal bank account. How is that legal?

The We work stuff was mostly VC money and they didn’t choose to sue for fraud. I listened to an audiobook called the Cult of We. It was pretty plain to me that they committed some fraud. But by the same token the VC jackasses didn’t ask for gaap financial statements. They were focused on growth only, and failed to even run a basic margin analysis.

I believe there is a case for some fraud. But the reality is the VC guys are dumber than ****. And they certainly had some governance problems on the board that allowed the ****ery to happen. But this is nothing like Theranos falsifying medical lab tests and trying to bamboozle lab certifications.

If anyone is into this stuff and wants to read the books, I’ll vouch for the following:

Bad Blood (theranos)
Thicker than Water (theranos)
The Cult of We (we work)

Love the Narcos series on Netflix and Narcos Mexico did not drop off one bit from the previous series.

Love this show.

awesome - will watch - ty

If you like horror - give this one a whirl. It's from a studio out of France IIRC and French horror is very good, up there w/ Korean and Italian Horror.

No subs in the English version and terrifying IMVHO.

Edit: The IMDB Trailer is in French.


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ROFL

Also

http://https://www.12thblog.com/wp-c...oldberg-24.jpgStarted Barry again last night. I kind of remember where I left off, the scenes with Stephen Root are coming back to me now.

Btw I did a google search on Sarah Goldberg and I gotta say she looks even better as a brunette. :p

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Have you watched Top Boy on Netflix yet?

I ****ing love this show. Gut-bustingly funny, turns on a dime between over-the top violence and satire. It's nearly perfect. New season coming in hot with a 93 Metacritic score.

I lost my shit there.

I'm 4 episodes in. Not sure how I feel about it yet but it hasn't grabbed me.

A friend told me it gets better in the later seasons after Drake got involved. Your thoughts?

I finished Top Boy and while it does heat up towards the end, I still thought it was fairly meh overall.

Agreed. Such a unique show and voice. The Hank character is just legendary.

My wife felt the same. She was saying it was slow about 4-6 episodes in. Just keep with it bro. By the time you hit season 2 (on Netflix) last episode you’re gonna be in complete shock, and pissed the **** off like we were. Stick with it, it get better. Especially Netflix, season 2. We finished it last night and I’m still in shock!

Uhhh... We Own This City on HBO. The Wire extension. Is this Q? Debuted last night. Fun casting.

Marlo Stanfield is back...as a detective.

We have a new police commissioner and it's not Daniels.

Past corner kids are now cops.

Jon Bernthal is amazing as always. The opening speech is terrific.

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Thanks. On my list. Bernthal is awesome.. The Wire was awesome..

they really need to stop ****ing w/ classic shows, like the Wire and Dexter. I mean I sort of get the motivation behind the Dexter reboot, but...

This isn't a Wire reboot, it's telling related stories about the same justice system from the same author.

Like saying The Pacific was a Band of Brother reboot.

It's a limited series that's tangentially related, my friend.

You seem nice.

My moms cousin is actually one of the detectives in this show. My mom told me about it forever ago, but I didn’t realize until I saw the trailer that it was by David Simon. I kind of wish she never told me he was in it now, because this is something I would have watched on my own eventually and been completely shocked to see him in it.

Just started The Fall on Amazon Prime last night. Only made it one episode in, but started out promising. Gillian Anderson is the lead detective.

Ozark is an all time great show in my book. Breaking bad good.

I’m gonna watch the end of the series as soon as I finish The Fall, which is pretty amazing so far.

I've been dying of curiosity, let me know when you've gotten to;

episode title

I’m a few episodes into season 2.

Just checked and I’m one episode away from that.

that Tokyo one looks good - I need to queue that one up - hope you're well my bud. ;)

Perhaps the most bonkers 30 mins of television you'll see. I want an essay on it please so I can taste the sensation of watching that episode...just one more time.

Not equipped for an essay, watched it once and don't want to 'overwatch' it so preserve future enjoyment instead of potentially burning out on the experience.

But here, maybe this will sate your yearning a little. [for those who haven't watched yet, obviously spoilers and such]

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RE: Barry - Limonada

Oh, Dear, . . . LORD!!

Did not expect the overwhelming rush of joy at



Never has something been simultaneously both so misplaced and inappropriate, and yet incisive and overdue.

Here's an observant video essay on what I'm talking about

It’s super glue……..fillin’ in the hole.

ROFL

That was a home run episode of Barry, just hitting on all cylinders.

Even the small asides;

He ordered MILK with dinner. . .
You have TOO MANY dogs. . .

It is good.

I laughed out loud at both of those lines. Too good.

Barry: Your windpipe is f***** dude. ROFL

Also:

I dont want to sound like a creep but do you want to get in the car with me and my friend?

Barry is excellent. I will probably wait until all of season 3 is out before resuming.

Bosch is back on. Just watched the first 4 episodes of it on freevee. Really enjoying it.

Watching Bosch Legacy on Freevee too....We are up to episode 4....Titus Welliver plays Bosch so well.

Will be interesting to see how they develop Maddie being a rookie on the force.

And honestly I think I watch Bosch just to listen to some of the music.

Evidently she has already graduated from the prestigious Robert Patrick University of Cinematic Robot Sprinting.

I'd never heard of this show until a few days ago when my father recommended it as the best crime dama on TV. He's comically prone to overexaggeration but this gets great reviews. How good is it?