Yup, I had Ben Tate added, but didn't want him until the 600's. Asked during the 400's and he's gone.

Generally, anyone who didn't take any snaps in 2010 has to be added to the db manually. I add them as I get notified and have the time and don't announce the additions. I won't draft those players for at least one round, unless I happen to be the one that notices them missing before anyone else does.

HE'S MINE BITCH.

I don't think Ben Tate is doing shit this year.

LOL, I was scared that you or Rain Man were going to take one of the players I asked for.

I added Thomas Davis to the draft pool a couple days ago, took a guard with 526 and then held my breath for 100 picks since I had traded 574 and 579.

You would have lost him anyway. I don't use the list of available players at all. I search for players that I am targeting... I would have added him myself had you not.

I kept putting Davis at the top of my list and scratching him right before my next pick. Good pick up if he can stay on the field...

Same for Otah.

I think autopick was turned off for the St Louis Spiders, they're 10 picks down.

Am I safe in assuming "Nick" Kaeding is supposed to be Nate? Nate is who I'm wanting to take at #781

Yep. I'll fix it soon.

Was there some database that you guys were able to pull names from in a semi-efficient manner, or is the player list a product of good ole data entry?

We bought the data from an outside source. I don't know if cdcox wants to share more right now or not. (In the long run, we don't want others buying it just to win their league, though it's not cheap.)

Eh, I don't need any more info. I was just curious how the database was populated.

Even with the purchased data, all of the rookies, kickers and punters had to be entered manually. So "Nick" Kaeding was my fault.

lol, someone just took Barry Richardson

you aren't the only one who wanted bodden....

If anyone is looking to trade down a few picks this round, send me an offer

whatll you give for 718

We're definitely drafting for depth now.

It's getting harder to find players that will even make a team.
I pick a name, google it (because that's what I'm down to), and the articles are all the same.

"Player X has been passed on the depth chart by Player Y, now it's a three way competition for the last spot with Player Z."

The actual, real teams don't even know if some of the depth we'll be picking this week are making the roster. :D

I'm pretty sure everyone I have drafted in the vet draft is a clear cut starter. Except for my backup QB, Flynn.

I forgot about Pettigrew and drafted Scheffler. :doh!:

I'm going to attempt to get the Tacos caught up. This is gonna be brutal.

:(

lol, the Tacos have Kelley Washington and Hines Ward.

Good luck, Peyton.

I'm now at the point where I have to start eliminating positions because I'm already stocked up. That should make it easier, but I think it makes it harder.

I'm having difficulty with the best player available/need situation.

I think I'd rather have two average backups than one good backup and one terrible backup....so I'll probably have to start drafting from positions that are drying up, or risk getting stuck with an awful backup.

I'm in the same boat--except my backup QB is a starter as well: Hasselbeck.

I'm also still seeing a few gems out there, but at positions I don't need. I'm pondering drafting them anyway just as trade bait, but that's risky. Any time someone offers me a trade I get paranoid that they know something I don't and are trying to take advantage of me, so I seldom make trades.

How will guys that aren't playing the positions they're listed at be affected? For instance, Dumervil is listed at OLB, but will in reality be playing DE this year. Odder yet, Cassius Vaughn is listed at SS, but is playing CB (and actually always has).

Those should be fine.

There goes the first punter.

Print em...Barth.

Out of curiosity, what pick is L1 on?

804

Don't forget about k/p returners and long snappers.

Thank You, BIG MOUTH :cuss:



is joke...not serious

Do we really have to draft a long snapper?

We can't use our backup center or something?

RE: KR/PR

If a guy can return kickoffs, will the engine allow him to return punts at a similar level, and vice versa?

Sure. Of course, if you don't have legitimate LS, you will suffer a greater chance of your kicks and punts being blocked.:evil:

The skills overlap but are not identical. :evil:

Great....

*goes off to research 32 depth charts*

If you want us to include LS'ers, please include them in the database. The first five I've tried haven't been in there.

At this point there's a huge satisfaction in finding some player who looks promising and seems to have a starting spot.

HUH? I picked a punter 3 or 4 picks back man, pay attention.

The age old question as to whether a bad starter is better than a potentially breakout backup.

I assume you're the one that got Lechler?

I had my LS added to the db a few days back... just drafted him today. Zak DeOssie! BEST in the league baby!

I just assumed Shane Lechler would be the first off the board.

Nope, Mat McBriar. I think he is better and slightly younger.

I think Lechler is starting to slide due to age.. that and I just couldn't stomach having him on my team.

Didn't Cdcox say players with little or no stats would be simmed as average players?

It might be better to take a guy who doesn't see the field rather than a shitty starter if so.

I'm doing too much ****ing work right now if that's the case.

Turns out that most of the long snappers are not in the database. We'll skip them this year and work them in later.

Whew. That was going to be some tough research.

HEY! I already drafted mine! Come on man! It's only 31 guys (since I drafted the Giants LS)

No, a player with none/low snaps will be simmed as one of the poorer performing players at that position with a significant number of snaps.

Good to know.

I had names for all 32, but statistical analysis was gonna be a bitch.

Hell, I'll even post the 31 names if you want! Then anyone can just look here to do their research!

I like the idea of keeping it as close to REALITY as possible... and a team just isn't a team without the long snapper!

Not too big of a problem before any leagues are formed, but now that the leagues are formed I have to edit the master table, plus one edit in another table for each league. So that would be around 120 edits.

actually I don't see why, just checked muffed/blocked punts/kicks...

LMAO

Sounds like longsnap.com got a record number of hits today.

well shit, what the hell am I supposed to do with Zak DeOssie now! can I get a mulligan and just have him deleted from DB?

Yeah, I'll fix it tonight.

You have your pick back.

Zak DeOssie is also re-available as a LB in league 1 draft.

He's not just a long snapper. He's a two-time pro bowl linebacker (as a long snapper).

Questions:
1368 total draft picks (1200 veteran + 168 rookie) / 24 teams = 57 players

Will we be required to trim our roster to 53 players at some point?
If so, will IR players count against the 53 or 57 man roster?

Cdcox, did you get my PM?

Yeah, at some point. I haven't programmed that page yet. IR probably won't count against that total.

Doing it now.

And if I've not mentioned it yet, huge thumbs up to you on this.
I'm pretty impressed with your apparent proficiency in this stuff.
Thanks for letting me help. :thumb:

League one people have pussed out. Over 130 picks behind league 2. 12 out of the last 20 picks on the clock.

League 2 should be done by mid-week. Could be done by Monday night.

League 2 members are far superior to League 1 members, obviously.

I'm guessing there will be more balance in league 2.

League 1 will be a league of super teams.

So, what's the plan?

We're not getting through 300 picks in 2 days.

What does everyone think about speeding up the draft picks (beginning tomorrow morning) to what ever pace is necessary to finish by midnight (end of day) on Wednesday? You have until kickoff on Thursday to make your picks. Then I'll close down the drafts.

At least then if some under the radar phenom emerges during week 1, no one will be able to add them last minute.

I'll see what I can do about 53-player roster management, but I don't feel like that is as critical to finish by kickoff.

I think that sounds alright. I don't think it matters that much whether the draft finishes before the first games or not.

Fine by me.

Or we could have one warp speed evening.