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The Franchise 01-23-2019 11:13 AM

Hitchens played well in a 4-3. Speaks and KPass are built for a 4-3. Nnadi and Jones can play inside in a 4-3 and Houston should have no problem playing DE in a 4-3.

FFS....the transition won't be that hard. This team still needs DBs on the back end. That wasn't going to change from a 3-4 to a 4-3.

1. Tag and trade Ford.
2. Get Houston to restructure.
3. Go out and find two capable CBs to play along with Ward and Fuller.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-23-2019 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 14066854)
I always thought he was Blitz heavy from the secondary...?

Appears so.

O.city 01-23-2019 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14066852)
Yards are more predictive over any appreciable timeline and a better demonstration of 'dominance' and/or duration that points surrendered.

Yes, in any given game, 'bend but don't break' can hold teams to field goals, keep the points down and win you a ballgame. But over the course of the season you're going to eventually run into that critical game where the red zone stops or 3rd down stops just don't come and you bend...then break.

Meanwhile if you're a team that excels at not giving up yards, statistically you're far more likely to be able to repeat that on a game to game basis.

That's why that 2016 season of his strikes me as a little bit of fools gold. His PPG was excellent but his YPG was merely above average. I believe the YPG was probably more demonstrative of the job he was doing and a lot of those cracks that were papered over in '16 surfaced in a big way in '17.

Yeah, the yards don't matter crowd has kind of spoiled me here.

Technically, they don't. But you just can't rely on being great in the red zone. Stop teams before they get there.

chiefforlife 01-23-2019 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14066848)
A 4-3 probably makes Jones better because then his desire to not play the run isn't as hurtful as it is when in a 3-4 he does that 2 lineman go get the LB's immediately.

Maybe line Houston up next to Jones and watch out!!

I am liking this idea more and more.

Marcellus 01-23-2019 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 14066507)
Agreed,

We just need shut down corners and amazing pass rush now....

We already have one of those.

O.city 01-23-2019 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14066856)
You really want them to pay Ford?

Also 4-3 should make Speaks and Kpass guys who can actually contribute.

Kpass is the type of guy Spags will like because with his size he can play all over the line. Matter of fat Jones and Speaks could do that to and he's shown he likes moving the DL around.

I'm actually a little intrigued by getting Kpass and Jones inside some.

They're gonna have to be able to stop the run first.

BryanBusby 01-23-2019 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 14066859)
Hitchens played well in a 4-3. Speaks and KPass are built for a 4-3. Nnadi and Jones can play inside in a 4-3 and Houston should have no problem playing DE in a 4-3.

FFS....the transition won't be that hard. This team still needs DBs on the back end. That wasn't going to change from a 3-4 to a 4-3.

1. Tag and trade Ford.
2. Get Houston to restructure.
3. Go out and find two capable CBs to play along with Ward and Fuller.

So you're suggesting that they're going to keep Justin Houston at a cap hit of 21 million?

dirk digler 01-23-2019 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14066768)
Giants fan on Spagnuolo.

Very much bend don’t break mentality and it felt like we struggled to make stops on 3rd downs and allowed long drives but became shutdown in the red zone.

Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.


Sounds familiar lol

Mecca 01-23-2019 11:15 AM

Dorian O'Daniel likely gets a shot to start as smaller faster LB's in the 4-3 is the norm now.

kcclone 01-23-2019 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 14066859)
Hitchens played well in a 4-3. Speaks and KPass are built for a 4-3. Nnadi and Jones can play inside in a 4-3 and Houston should have no problem playing DE in a 4-3.

FFS....the transition won't be that hard. This team still needs DBs on the back end. That wasn't going to change from a 3-4 to a 4-3.

1. Tag and trade Ford.
2. Get Houston to restructure.
3. Go out and find two capable CBs to play along with Ward and Fuller.


Bingo. We had the second to worst defense in the NFL for crying out loud. No one is saying we need to be the 2000 Ravens. Just become respectable.

We have to have the ability to win in more ways than just scoring 40 ppg.

The Franchise 01-23-2019 11:15 AM

KPass is similar to Justin Tuck IMO. Not production....but size and measurable wise. Tuck is just a little bit quicker.

Mecca 01-23-2019 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14066867)
So you're suggesting that they're going to keep Justin Houston at a cap hit of 21 million?

Only if he takes a paycut, he might consider it. The idea of in the later stages of his career becoming an end that doesn't have to drop into coverage might be appealing to him.

The Franchise 01-23-2019 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14066867)
So you're suggesting that they're going to keep Justin Houston at a cap hit of 21 million?

Sure....if you completely ignore #2.

BleedingRed 01-23-2019 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14066869)
Dorian O'Daniel likely gets a shot to start as smaller faster LB's in the 4-3 is the norm now.

I wouldn't say smaller but faster yes

O.city 01-23-2019 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14066867)
So you're suggesting that they're going to keep Justin Houston at a cap hit of 21 million?

Surely they'll restructure it or something?


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