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O.city 08-11-2012 09:54 AM

I gotta say, I'm starting to like the idea of Poe and Bailey on the sub rush stuff.

CoMoChief 08-11-2012 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8809345)
don't write off Manning

I think the donks are going to be much better than most people think.


I just hope their Oline falls apart and Manning gets body slammed every game.

I'll say this, Romeo has a history of coaching well against Manning. Sounds crazy but it's true. We have some VERY talented bunch of players on defense. They're all healthy, and to think they're only gonna get better. That's some scary shit. Manning doesn't have the familiarity in Denver that he once did in Indy. Now, Manning is Manning and you're going to have to play your best if you're wanting to beat him because he doesn't lose often. He's a ****ing gamer. I don't think his neck will be an issue, although that doesn't mean something "could" happen, I mean he's had multiple neck surgeries FFS. But the docs say he's fine and he thinks he's fine so I'm taking that as everything health wise is back to normal. Manning is a marketing face. He's not going to risk his future and success off the field after the game is done, on a chance that his neck might not be fully healed and play in an awfully violent sport.

But there is an adjustment period that he will have to overcome. Now can we take advantage of that and the lack of weapons Denver has and beat them? I think so.

**** PEYTON MANNING. I CAN'T BELIEVE HES A ****ING BRONCO. DIE SCUM!!!!!! NOW IM ****ING MAD!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr. Laz 08-11-2012 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 8809346)
I just can't figure out the Pioli bashing. Dude has done an AWESOME job of getting the pieces this team, and Cassel need.
Maybe a PO win is what people need. I think they're gonna get it this season.
What has it been? 17 years? Damn, no wonder.

Pioli did an outstanding job of a steady,conservative rebuild.

1. traded a 2nd round pick for transitional QB and LB to be the leaders on both sides of the ball. People bitch all they want but it was the safe and steady way to make a smooth transition. Pioli then replaced Vrabel and looked to replace Cassel. Although he hasn't be aggressive enough in replacing Cassel, but still.

2. right 53 to fix the culture of losing. people can talk shit and make fun all they want but it's the right thing to do. You bring in character even at the expense of some talent to make sure the locker room is professional and productive.

3. build through the draft. outside of the initial preparation shortened '09 draft, we have gotten good talent. Pioli has also steadily been more aggressive about getting talent and potential. Lessening up on the 'right 53' as the locker room improved.

4. screwed up by hiring Haley ... fixed it. I just wish he was of fixed it before we lost Weis. Hopefully DeBoll is good enough.

5. talent and depth with zero cap concerns. Pioli has built a solid and sustainable organization. Hopefully as soon as we get our franchise QB we will have legitimate Super Bowl contending type team each year.


what more could you possibly want?

LiveSteam 08-11-2012 10:03 AM

If the NFL ranked teams after the first set of pre-season games KC would be ranked #1
IMO last night was about as well played a game by KC as one could expect. Great way to start the season off

Mr. Laz 08-11-2012 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 8809356)
I'll say this, Romeo has a history of coaching well against Manning.

yes, he does.

It provides solid hope for us this year against Denver.

Direckshun 08-11-2012 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8809247)
a lot of people are happy but i didn't like it

He looked slow and tentative ... lacked energy.

Powe looked a ton better.

BUT ........ it's the rooks 1st game and he was probably nervous as hell.

give him time

I thought Powe looked better, too. But Poe is battling Toribio at this stage, not Poe.

Poe I thought looked alright. He's working on his technique, and the fact that he demands two OL at this point is promising.

I'd describe his performance as promising.

Rausch 08-11-2012 10:22 AM

I thought Poe occupied 2 blockers but didn't seem to fight off blocks well.

Powe seemed to push the pocket back and get penetration fairly well.

It's not exactly what I was hoping for because Poe/Stanzi have more upside but game 1 Powe/Quinn seemed more effective and ready to play...

O.city 08-11-2012 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8809370)
I thought Poe occupied 2 blockers but didn't seem to fight off blocks well.

Powe seemed to push the pocket back and get penetration fairly well.

It's not exactly what I was hoping for because Poe/Stanzi have more upside but game 1 Powe/Quinn seemed more effective and ready to play...

Powe also wasn't double teamed.

Rausch 08-11-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8809375)
Powe also wasn't double teamed.

Yes, he was. In fact there was one play where he was double teamed and got deep in the backfield getting a hand on the QB. He came out immediately and had about 3 chiefs around him high 5ing and all joking around.

I'm sure at some point Goatse will have a gif of it...

Deberg_1990 08-11-2012 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8809360)
Pioli did an outstanding job of a steady,conservative rebuild.

1. traded a 2nd round pick for transitional QB and LB to be the leaders on both sides of the ball. People bitch all they want but it was the safe and steady way to make a smooth transition. Pioli then replaced Vrabel and looked to replace Cassel. Although he hasn't be aggressive enough in replacing Cassel, but still.

2. right 53 to fix the culture of losing. people can talk shit and make fun all they want but it's the right thing to do. You bring in character even at the expense of some talent to make sure the locker room is professional and productive.

3. build through the draft. outside of the initial preparation shortened '09 draft, we have gotten good talent. Pioli has also steadily been more aggressive about getting talent and potential. Lessening up on the 'right 53' as the locker room improved.

4. screwed up by hiring Haley ... fixed it. I just wish he was of fixed it before we lost Weis. Hopefully DeBoll is good enough.

5. talent and depth with zero cap concerns. Pioli has built a solid and sustainable organization. Hopefully as soon as we get our franchise QB we will have legitimate Super Bowl contending type team each year.


what more could you possibly want?


Pretty much agree with all this. His biggest mistake was Haley and hopefully Romeo can be a mini-Bellichek.


Hes certainly improved the roster and depth x100 since 09. People just enjoy bitching.
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SAUTO 08-11-2012 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8809375)
Powe also wasn't double teamed.

Did you watch the game?

Doubled on most plays
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O.city 08-11-2012 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 8809381)
Did you watch the game?

Doubled on most plays
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Powe not Poe

O.city 08-11-2012 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8809379)
Yes, he was. In fact there was one play where he was double teamed and got deep in the backfield getting a hand on the QB. He came out immediately and had about 3 chiefs around him high 5ing and all joking around.

I'm sure at some point Goatse will have a gif of it...

The time he got the sack, I don't believe he was doubled.




EDIT: Actually I was wrong, went back and watched. He split the C and G, the guard gave a half ass effort as Powe bullrushed.


When he was singled up on guys he got good push and made some plays. Ran himself out of plays a time or two but got good push. When he was doubled he held his ground, but got stonewalled 2.

Good call to Rausch.

Rausch 08-11-2012 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8809389)
Powe not Poe

Yes, he was...

Coogs 08-11-2012 10:41 AM

That was probably the most exciting start to a season that I have seen in a long time. I'm already excited for next weeks game to see if we can keep it going.

The offense is/was my kind of offense. Strong running game with the play action pass working well off of that. The way the line played, it looks as if we will be able to run the ball this season... which was a concern of mine. Cassel can play well when we can run it. It is when we can not run it that will be the key.

Many, many positives from this game from top to bottom. Very few negatives. That formula will win a lot of games this season if we can keep it up.

One thing that has not been talked about that I liked was that Baldwin appeared to line up primarily on the left side. I feared that in Bowe's absence that they would move him to the right side, and when Bowe returns that Baldwin would then be returned to the left side. That appears to not be the case. Big thumbs up to the coaching staff if that is indeed correct.

Great opening by all. Can't wait 'til next week!


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