Are you just butthurt because he abused the Nubs for 148yds and TD despite not playing the 4th quarter?

It's way too early to be picking from this crop of crap QBs. Way too ****ing early.

I could understand the Tannehill pick just because that high ceiling of his isn't an absolute pipe dream. He's the definition of fixer-upper. With Foles and Osweiler you didn't buy fixer-uppers. You bought good land and a nice location with god awful money pits sitting on top.

Osweiler's inaccuracy, poor judgment, and sloppy footwork require YEARS of constant attention and coaching. No team, not even the Eagles are going to give him the benefit of the doubt even in riding the pine after the second year. Better prospects will be investigated, other QBs will be brought in, and Osweiler's os will be out the door (see what I did there?) before you know it.

You take a guy like him in the 5th round at the EARLIEST in case you get lucky and the real Brock Osweiler is returned by the aliens who abducted him, and he's actually got the skills to play QB in the NFL. Not in the 2nd though.

He never showed speed while playing at USC.

That's not his game. He's not a 4.3 burner. He's a big, physical receiver with excellent hands and adequate speed. When you're 6'3" 216 you don't need to run a 4.3 or 4.4. IMO, he's a Dwayne Bowe (maybe a tad less physical) with better hands. Bowe ran a 4.51 and that's around where I expect Jeffery to run.

By the way, nfldraftscout has the following 40 times listed:

Justin Blackmon 4.54
Kendall Wright 4.61
Alshon Jeffery 4.56
Michael Floyd 4.47
Rueben Randle 4.55
Mohamed Sanu 4.67

I know, but at least that's what I'm advertising the picks as and the upside is there for both players.

Going into last year, I thought Foles had a chance to be the second qb off the board and if he had a defense, he would have won a ****ton more games and would be looked at differently. Not trying to make excuses, the kid made mistakes that cost his team games, but he was also the only reason they were even in most of their games.

Upshaw is a special type of player that I think is underrated a lot.

But, yeah both are probably "reaches" as far as popular draft value goes.

I don't mind the Foles pick too much. I think he's underrated.

He's battle tested and has been the man for years. He's also had to carry his shit team against good competition.

I think he can make noise in the right situation. I'm not sure if Miami's that place, though. That place can't coach quarterbacks for shit.

If Miami was going to reach for a QB, better to do it for a guy who is pretty much going to be what you want the day you draft him. Kirk Cousins.

Is there really such a thing as a reach in early March? It's not like Boss selected a guy with a 3rd round grade in the first.

You don't think Philbin and Sherman can coach QB's? I disagree. Foles would be a good fit in Miami.

I still don't believe that time.

Watching his 40 and using a stop watch I, and many others, timed low-mid 4.4's.

No !@#$ing way that just happened.

Okay, the "we need a QB" thing has officially made Chiefs fans reeruned. Brock Osweiler just went in the 2nd round to team that already had a legitimate starting QB. Hell, it wasn't even a guy like Cousins that could actually play next year, but rather a guy that won't be able to play for 3 but may desperately need to be ready next season.

I think Reachmaqe just got let off the hook for his Mercilus pick.

Annnnnnnnnd no one remembers my 49ers pick. Thanks doomy.

The Jets addressed a significant need in the first round on offense. This time they pick up a big time position of need that some might think is a bit of a reach. There aren't very many quality safeties in this draft so the Jets pick one when they can. With the 47th pick in the 2012 draft the New York Jets pick Harrison Smith, S, Notre Dame

LMAO

Wow, you guys really didn't like that pick. I realize I'm probably higher than most here on Osweiler, but the kid has huge physical upside. I think he will be a second round pick in the real draft, so I don't think it was some massive reach.

And I do think a team like the Eagles are a perfect spot for him and anticipate them spending a pick in the top 3 rounds on the position this year.

We'll see though.

This post doesn't even make sense to me. This is similar to the Mallet pick for NE last year, IMO. And a guy who may desperately need to be ready? Why? I didn't draft him to be a backup to Vick. That's why they signed Edwards. I drafted him to be a potential replacement.