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L.A. Chieffan 11-19-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by frankotank (Post 9133864)
OK...about the bite conversation....
I was under the impression that if you get bit....you're history. now some of you are saying you can get bit and heal and be fine. now I completely get it that if you die of natural causes you're gonna turn....I get that. but if you get bit, you're gonna turn....as was pointed out the example of the dude being left behind sitting by a tree.

so what gives? what's the verdict? I mean think about it....nobodies gonna die from a bite from a human being....unless it's to the jugular.....or it's a zombie.

it's semantics really. we know that everyone turns when they die but it could be that the bite itself causes death, like poisoning the body. Which is why Herschel didn't die or turn because they cut his leg before it spread.

Zebedee DuBois 11-19-2012 02:24 PM

I still have not figured out zombie physiology.

My understanding is that the victim actually dies and then the actuating organism reanimates the nervous system. All other systems - circulatory, respiratory - remain dead, and the flesh begins to decompose. The nervous system is able to contract muscles to cause the zombie to lurch into mobility, and the optical, auditory, and olfactory nerves still carry information to the brain. The zombie's need to feed is an instinctual remnant.

Yet, the governors scientist says that zombies still 'starve', but at a slower rate - which indicates that they need to feed and are digesting their human prey. The next logical implication is that these zombies should be pooping. I know they aren't much into hygiene and personal grooming, so why aren't we seeing zombies walking around with bulging pant-loads of zombie excrement? Why aren't these walking corpses with pantloads engulfed in a cloud of flies and crawling with maggots? We should be know they are coming just from the buzzing of their flies and their fetid pioli smell.

siberian khatru 11-19-2012 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois (Post 9133908)
The next logical implication is that these zombies should be pooping. I know they aren't much into hygiene and personal grooming, so why aren't we seeing zombies walking around with bulging pant-loads of zombie excrement? Why aren't these walking corpses with pantloads engulfed in a cloud of flies and crawling with maggots? We should be know they are coming just from the buzzing of their flies and their fetid pioli smell.

ROFL

I hadn't thought of that.

George Romero presents: "Diarrhea of the Dead"

J Diddy 11-19-2012 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois (Post 9133908)
I still have not figured out zombie physiology.

My understanding is that the victim actually dies and then the actuating organism reanimates the nervous system. All other systems - circulatory, respiratory - remain dead, and the flesh begins to decompose. The nervous system is able to contract muscles to cause the zombie to lurch into mobility, and the optical, auditory, and olfactory nerves still carry information to the brain. The zombie's need to feed is an instinctual remnant.

Yet, the governors scientist says that zombies still 'starve', but at a slower rate - which indicates that they need to feed and are digesting their human prey. The next logical implication is that these zombies should be pooping. I know they aren't much into hygiene and personal grooming, so why aren't we seeing zombies walking around with bulging pant-loads of zombie excrement? Why aren't these walking corpses with pantloads engulfed in a cloud of flies and crawling with maggots? We should be know they are coming just from the buzzing of their flies and their fetid pioli smell.

Don't spend to much time on zombie physiology. It'll drive you mad.

frankotank 11-19-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 9133898)
No one has since Rick told everyone that they all have it and will turn when they die have turned just from being bit that I can remember. However anyone that has died and not had their head lopped off or brain "killed" has been reanimated.
Herschel is the prime example.. he was bit and bit bad, thought he was going to die and asked to be killed. (if my memory serves me right) The rest of them feared IF /WHEN he died he would turn but he hadnt died yet and they tried their best to keep him alive, but tied him to the bed in case he died and turned. Herschel is still alive and was bitten.

see in my mind that's not the same at ALL. he is alive BECAUSE they chopped off his leg before the contagion from the zombie bite traveled up his leg into the rest of him.
again...look back at the dude who was bit...but it wasn't anything even close to a mortal would...and he started getting sick and asked to be left behind. I believe, as did the characters on the show, that he was gonna turn. personally I'd have asked for a bullet to the brain rather than be left behind to turn into one of those things.

J Diddy 11-19-2012 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by frankotank (Post 9133864)
OK...about the bite conversation....
I was under the impression that if you get bit....you're history. now some of you are saying you can get bit and heal and be fine. now I completely get it that if you die of natural causes you're gonna turn....I get that. but if you get bit, you're gonna turn....as was pointed out the example of the dude being left behind sitting by a tree.

so what gives? what's the verdict? I mean think about it....nobodies gonna die from a bite from a human being....unless it's to the jugular.....or it's a zombie.

Human bites can be infectious as well.

frankotank 11-19-2012 02:37 PM

something else I've noticed.....it's not been quite a while since the outbreak. and as was pointed out, seems like everytime someone is attacked they are completely consumed. so why are most of the zombies still so day juicy? I mean damn....it they've been walking dead for over a year now, there wouldn't be much juice left. they'd be all shirvelled up. like mummy looking things.

man I'm really giving this too much thought....

NewChief 11-19-2012 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9133907)
it's semantics really. we know that everyone turns when they die but it could be that the bite itself causes death, like poisoning the body. Which is why Herschel didn't die or turn because they cut his leg before it spread.

This. The bite causes a fatal infection that kills. Once the person dies, they turn (as does everyone in the Walking Dead world). They stopped the infection from spreading by amputating Herschel's leg, thus saving him.

frankotank 11-19-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9133956)
Human bites can be infectious as well.

in the world of The Walking Dead...yeah I can dig that. cause everyones infected. but now you've got me running down a different rabit hole....
so everyones already infected so it shouldn't make any damn difference whether you're bit by a live dude or a zombie....because you already have it.
so why in the hell did that dude from season 1 have such a damn hard time being bit by a zombie. it's like it was a storyline MISTAKE?!?

KC_Lee 11-19-2012 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by frankotank (Post 9133959)
something else I've noticed.....it's not been quite a while since the outbreak. and as was pointed out, seems like everytime someone is attacked they are completely consumed. so why are most of the zombies still so day juicy? I mean damn....it they've been walking dead for over a year now, there wouldn't be much juice left. they'd be all shirvelled up. like mummy looking things.

man I'm really giving this too much thought....

http://www.cracked.com/article_18683...l-quickly.html

Science again ruins zombie movies.

frankotank 11-19-2012 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9133891)
I'm an idiot with spoilers so I put it on your visitor message if anyone wants to know.

thanks!
wasn't as bad as I thought it'd be. I'm just glad she's gone...
cause....SHUTTHE****UPALREADYYOUANNOYINGBITCH!

not only because I hate her frigging GUTS...but as a huge horror fan, I'd really have liked to have seen the baby born a zombie. that woulda been awesome. and somebody mentioned the nursery earlier....those wussies....they shoulda done it.

I'll never forget when King's Pet Sematary was made into a movie.....I was thinking, they CAN'T REALLY have a kid as young as Gage is in the book play that part in the movie!!!! yup. they did! awesome.
not as cool as zombie infants (see Dawn Of The Dead for the most awesome zombie newborn EVER. good job Mekhi! your boys swim!)

PS - spoilers somewhere for future use
Spoiler!

frankotank 11-19-2012 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 9134054)

really cool article. rep to you sir.
that was pretty entertaining. made me laugh several times and I learned that there is zombie porn out there. wow. I don't even....
one sentence started out....
"It's generally accepted by zombie experts…."

hahahaha
that cracked me up.

Huffmeister 11-19-2012 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 9133964)
This. The bite causes a fatal infection that kills. Once the person dies, they turn (as does everyone in the Walking Dead world). They stopped the infection from spreading by amputating Herschel's leg, thus saving him.

Interesting. So they've never showed someone get bit, then turn without dying first? I'm trying to remember what happened with Andrea's sister.

Buck 11-19-2012 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Huffmeister (Post 9134186)
Interesting. So they've never showed someone get bit, then turn without dying first? I'm trying to remember what happened with Andrea's sister.

Amy completely died and was laying on the ground for a minute. Then she opened her eyes and they were all cloudy. Then Andrea shot her in the head.

Sure-Oz 11-19-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 9132271)
All the calls. The first people he talked to were Amy and Jim from season 1...who are also dead.

Didn't even realize that, pretty sweet


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