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Saul Good 05-29-2012 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 8645172)
The Kansas relays are 85 years old and still draw crowds. Its seen as a convenient event for elite athletes to compete in preparation for national, world, or olympic events.

They aren't going away, and we can't just throw a few bleachers around a local high school track. It also seems really silly to me to build a huge Texas-like track stadium, only to watch it basically sit unused 362 days per year.

This aversion to seeing a track around a football field, when the track is actually used for something meaningful, is completely illogical. Seeing grass or astroturf there makes you happy, but a track upsets you? What if they just covered the track up with a joker-hair-green loop of temporary astroturf after the relays are done? Why should that make a difference?

Look where you have to start the bleachers when there's a track. When every seat is thirty yards further away because of a track, it matters.

Saul Good 05-29-2012 01:29 PM

Http://www.law.ku.edu/images/blog/memorial_stadium.jpg

Can't embed from my mobile, but c'mon.

sedated 05-29-2012 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 8645172)
This aversion to seeing a track around a football field, when the track is actually used for something meaningful, is completely illogical. Seeing grass or astroturf there makes you happy, but a track upsets you? What if they just covered the track up with a joker-hair-green loop of temporary astroturf after the relays are done? Why should that make a difference?

Having a track with adequate seating is a conundrum, but how many people see the stadium in a football capacity as opposed to the Kansas Relays? Its marketing, and high school kids/possible recruits see us as a joke when it looks like we play in a high school stadium. The cheap grey bleachers don’t help either.

I’d rather cover it up with extra seating so the crowd can influence the game (that’s assuming the team is good, and the stadium is full for the entire game).

HolyHandgernade 05-29-2012 01:44 PM

Ouch! I just heard the SEC made MU and ArKANSAS permanent cross division rivals. Not doing you Tiggers any favors in Texas recruiting are they? Be sure to say thanks to your Alabama and Florida overlords for us Texas bannermen, OK?

Saul Good 05-29-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 8645287)
Ouch! I just heard the SEC made MU and ArKANSAS permanent cross division rivals. Not do you Tiggers any favors in Texas recruiting are they? Be sure to say thanks to your Alabama and Florida overlords for us Texas bannermen, OK?

Arkansas is the obvious rival for Mizzou. Not really sure what your point is.

HolyHandgernade 05-29-2012 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8645293)
Arkansas is the obvious rival for Mizzou. Not really sure what your point is.

Umm, you used to have four conference teams that played against you from Texas, then it went to one, now it is zero in most years. No games in Texas probably means less influence to get recruits from Texas. Of course, that means you'll have to try and entice new recruiting grounds, which, I would guess, isn't the easiest thing in the world to do. No point, I guess.

DeezNutz 05-29-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 8645321)
Umm, you used to have four conference teams that played against you from Texas, then it went to one, now it is zero in most years. No games in Texas probably means less influence to get recruits from Texas. Of course, that means you'll have to try and entice new recruiting grounds, which, I would guess, isn't the easiest thing in the world to do. No point, I guess.

Football recruiting has really taken a hit since the SEC move was announced.

Saul Good 05-29-2012 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8645325)
Football recruiting has really taken a hit since the SEC move was announced.

I'm starting to think that moving to the SEC in order to play more games in Texas was a mistake.

qabbaan 05-29-2012 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 8645287)
Ouch! I just heard the SEC made MU and ArKANSAS permanent cross division rivals. Not doing you Tiggers any favors in Texas recruiting are they? Be sure to say thanks to your Alabama and Florida overlords for us Texas bannermen, OK?

It will be nice to play football against a competitive rival. Perhaps they can match Kansas up with Iowa State in that regard.

HolyHandgernade 05-29-2012 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8645325)
Football recruiting has really taken a hit since the SEC move was announced.

Yes, because long term trends are usually established even before the actual action has even taken place.

alnorth 05-29-2012 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 8645321)
Umm, you used to have four conference teams that played against you from Texas, then it went to one, now it is zero in most years. No games in Texas probably means less influence to get recruits from Texas. Of course, that means you'll have to try and entice new recruiting grounds, which, I would guess, isn't the easiest thing in the world to do. No point, I guess.

This is the sort of thing thats going to take almost a decade to prove out. We've all got opinions, and Missouri fans are going to stubbornly fold their arms and insist they'll still get plenty of Texas recruits, or if not, they'll get plenty of southern recruits, and you can't really respond with anything more than "I doubt it".

After about 2019 or 2020 if someone digs this issue up again and triumphantly says "see I told you so", the other side wont even remember anymore.

DeezNutz 05-29-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 8645342)
Yes, because long term trends are usually established even before the actual action has even taken place.

True, trying to attract players to play among and against the best collegiate football talent in the country will prove very difficult, especially given the rarity of said talent, from Mizzou and the SEC more generally, making it into the league.

Saul Good 05-29-2012 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 8645342)
Yes, because long term trends are usually established even before the actual action has even taken place.

You're right. We're doomed. Nobody can survive in the SEC because the teams are all so good.

Pitt Gorilla 05-29-2012 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8645325)
Football recruiting has really taken a hit since the SEC move was announced.

LMAO

HolyHandgernade 05-29-2012 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8645348)
True, trying to attract players to play among and against the best collegiate football talent in the country will prove very difficult, especially given the rarity of said talent, from Mizzou and the SEC more generally, making it into the league.

Yes, because it has worked so well for Vanderbilt and the Mississippi schools.


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