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RealSNR 04-11-2013 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9579517)
Do you have kids?:spock:

Why the **** does that matter?

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-11-2013 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9578681)
Because we won't be spending a pick on Geno Smith period. That's why.

Why spend a pick on a QB who's no better than your 2nd and 3rd string guys, after you just gave up two 2nd's for a starting QB you think could be the last piece to your playoff puzzle, when you can sign a tackle, guard, Wide Receiver, or whatever, that instantly makes your team better.

Drafting Geno #1 overall doesn't make us immediately better. You know what does?

Joeckel, Warmack, Lotuleilei, Fisher, Milliner, etc.

Nope. Those players make us gutless pussies with no vision who care nothing about using a top pick in the capacity it was designed for. Sorry!
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Exoter175 04-11-2013 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9579520)
Why the **** does that matter?

Just curious, because based off of that statement you made, it doesn't sound like you have them. :thumb:

O.city 04-11-2013 10:05 PM

Either trade Albert and draft his replacement, or we are drafting a starting RT, an OLB who won't likely play every down, or a #3 CB.

Personally, I'd rather draft Star or Sheldon Richardson.

Exoter175 04-11-2013 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9579525)
Nope. Those players make us gutless pussies with no vision who care nothing about using a top pick in the capacity it was designed for. Sorry!
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You do know that list of players wasn't specified for the 1.1 selection right?

That being said, you wouldn't take Fisher or Milliner with the #1, #2, or #3?:spock:

O.city 04-11-2013 10:11 PM

Why would you take Milliner at 1? He isn't a #1 shutdown corner, he'd likely be the 3rd CB.

Exoter175 04-11-2013 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9579546)
Why would you take Milliner at 1? He isn't a #1 shutdown corner, he'd likely be the 3rd CB.

Your whole perspective is way off. :doh!:

O.city 04-11-2013 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9579561)
Your whole perspective is way off. :doh!:

With the first overall pick, you are supposed to get a cornerstone franchise player, correct?

Exoter175 04-11-2013 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9579562)
With the first overall pick, you are supposed to get a cornerstone franchise player, correct?

No.

You're supposed to get the first selection in the draft, barring any unforeseen errors in time management.

O.city 04-11-2013 10:16 PM

Then how exactly is my perspective off?

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-11-2013 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9579531)
You do know that list of players wasn't specified for the 1.1 selection right?

That being said, you wouldn't take Fisher or Milliner with the #1, #2, or #3?:spock:

**** no. Niether one of those guys are generational talents. You DONT take non generational talent OUTSIDE of the QB or Reciever positions when you are in the top mother****ing 10. It IS that goddamned simple. DO THE MATH.
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RealSNR 04-11-2013 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9579527)
Just curious, because based off of that statement you made, it doesn't sound like you have them. :thumb:

You're a ****ing idiot.

Are you familiar with the question, "If all your friends jumped off a bridge, would you do it as well?"

Simply Red 04-11-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9579583)
You're a ****ing idiot.

Are you familiar with the question, "If all your friends jumped off a bridge, would you do it as well?"

please through in 'rape' in there some place.

Exoter175 04-11-2013 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9579567)
Then how exactly is my perspective off?

You said milliner is not a shut down corner, that he's likely a #3 CB. That we shouldn't draft him #1 overall (Despite me qualifying that statement with any of the picks, 1-3, not specifically #1).

The problem with your perspective, is talent.

Every year the talent pool is different, every year your needs are different.

You don't draft a CB, say, #2 overall ONLY if he's going to be a #1 shutdown corner and nothing else.

Hell, he might be the best zone corner coming up in college who plays "alright" in man coverage against bigger, physical receivers.

You might have a deep glaring need for a #2 CB who can play zone, as well as man. And you might have that need for "some time".

Why wouldn't you draft that way?


Whether you like it or not, whether you accept it or not, or whether you're ignorant of the facts or not, WE WILL NOT DRAFT A PLAYER WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A NEED FOR.

So yeah, CB is a slight need, much smaller of a need than it was before, but a likely selection if we manage to trade back to around the #3 spot. Unlikely he'll go #1.

Drafting a QB, on the other hand, is a waste of a pick. We don't need a QB, we have one, we have three for that matter, and our #3 guy had a better college career than Geno or Nassib, and our #2 guy backed up one of the best QB's to ever play the game, and our #1 guy posted one of the highest Passer Ratings int he NFL last year.

Did I mention we already spent near the equivalent of a first rounder on that #1 QB this year, and we have a whole new FO and Coaching staff in place? And that the likelihood of us drafting a QB, barring Injury, in the next 2 drafts is zero?


YOU (kind of we, but less me, and more or less the stupid masses) need to step away from this mentality that the #1 pick, or a top 5 or top 10 pick has to be a guy who gets drafted in that number (IE, you can't draft a CB #1 overall, and you can't draft a guard inside the top 15). You also need to get over the fact that what most of you are buying into right now, is smoke and mirrors. This whole "Dorsey said we would draft BPA" doesn't discount the fact that he's never stated we wouldn't draft FOR NEED as well. Some of YOU let the facts go in one ear and out the other.

We NEED a Right Tackle, we might ALSO NEED a Left Tackle. Two positions that are nearly priceless in the amount of importance they have for our offense going forward if we are to make a playoff run.

And I say that word "priceless" in retrospect to the fact that we've, again, already signed a #1 QB. So now the value of adding another QB is no longer priceless, it holds a weighted value.

Right now the value of another QB on this roster is that of Camp Fodder for competition at the #3 spot.

Not because we think Geno could be the #1 guy.

Sorter 04-11-2013 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9579595)
our #3 guy had a better college career than Geno or Nassib,

wut


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