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|Zach| 01-21-2013 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 9339958)
The investigation was already in progress when he was hired wasn't it?

Yes but it is still a big assumption because of the hazy nature of NCAA rules and the way it conducts his business.

stonedstooge 01-21-2013 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9339989)
Yes but it is still a big assumption because of the hazy nature of NCAA rules and the way it conducts his business.

Man, if there was any potential that things could turn out bad, you would think Alden would have run the other way.

Mizzou_8541 01-21-2013 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 9339958)
The investigation was already in progress when he was hired wasn't it?

I thought Alden vetted him through the NCAA and he was cleared. Could be wrong.

Captain Obvious 01-21-2013 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541 (Post 9340026)
I thought Alden vetted him through the NCAA and he was cleared. Could be wrong.

Pretty sure you are right about that.

Mizzou_8541 01-21-2013 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious (Post 9340032)
Pretty sure you are right about that.

So then Mizzou should be clear if he did his due diligence, correct? I don't pretend to know anything about the legal side, but what else can Alden do if the NCAA says he's good to go?

Stanley Nickels 01-21-2013 08:01 PM

I don't think I'm giving away any insider info, so here's some info from Gabe DeArmond:

Some further info on Haith
have talked to some people familiar with the PROCESS. This is not specifically about Haith, but here is what I've gathered:

The initial notice will not include a show cause or a recommended penalty. The notice will be ONLY about the allegations. A show cause may be a possible (even probable) consequence of the allegations that are made, but there will be no show cause put on Haith this week.

That would not happen until the appearance in front of the Committee on INfractions in mid-June.

THEREFORE, Missouri pretty much would HAVE to wait until at least mid-June before making any sort of a decision. I mean, you can't very well fire a guy who's been here two years with his record because MAYBE he's going to be in trouble.

Even after that hearing, the actual decision from the COI won't be until probably October. That would be the first time Missouri is likely to know FOR SURE that Haith would operate under a show cause. Therefore, barring Haith simply walking away or Missouri negotiating a buyout, I think that's the first time they can realistically make a decision on anything.

Further, IF a show cause is put on Haith, Mizzou would have to appear in front of the COI to convince them they should keep him. This is true even though Missouri hired Haith when there were no allegations (and in fact, after vetting him with the NCAA and being given a clean bill on him).

Mike Alden carries scars from the Quin Snyder era. He does NOT want the NCAA messing with his basketball program. I know this. Gonna be real interesting to see what goes down.

Stanley Nickels 01-21-2013 08:16 PM

This is, in true Missouri fashion, a goddamn cluster****.

Missouri apparently had communicated multiple times with the NCAA to ensure that there would be no charges forthcoming WRT hiring Haith. So, with what we now know, can we expect sanctions even after doing due diligence? I'm almost certain there wouldn't be any written record of the NCAA's responses to MU, so we'd really have our hands tied if we chose to appeal.

On the other hand, what can the NCAA do? Do you set a terrible precedent and not punish an offending coach, simply because he moved to a new school since the improprieties occurred? That would set a dangerous precedent --though I expect NOTHING from the NCAA; they seem to adjust their "official rules" at-will.

Are notices of infractions sufficient evidence to have cause to fire Haith? I wouldn't think so, and MU would be left to foot the bill of his buyout (which probably isn't too much, given the low profile of his hiring). If Haith IS bought out, could Mizzou sue if he's found guilty of the violations?

Does Alden get the boot? I'd say he absolutely should, but I could see the logic (however much I disagree with it) behind a board of curators wanting a steady presence at AD during the transition into a new conference

So, in closing: **** you, NCAA. Possibly **** you, Haith. And **** you Pinkel. Yeah.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-21-2013 08:22 PM

M-I-Z!

Stanley Nickels 01-21-2013 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9340178)
M-I-Z!

1-11!

Mr_Tomahawk 01-21-2013 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels (Post 9340212)
1-11!

Awwww cute

A hapless fan...

I believe you are looking for the KU football thread.

This is the Mizzou Basketball thread...right?

SEC! SEC! SEC?

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-21-2013 08:49 PM

The NCAA is an organization of unimaginable hypocrisy. What they should do as opposed to what they will do further analyzed against their bylaws never yields a singular answer.

Combine that with an AD who makes mediocre decisions at best, and horrific ones at worst and you have the perfect combination for a Mongolian cluster****.

Reconcile that against Mizzou's Law: If it involves Missouri, the worst will always happen.

mnchiefsguy 01-21-2013 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9340241)
Awwww cute

A hapless fan...

I believe you are looking for the KU football thread.

This is the Mizzou Basketball thread...right?

SEC! SEC! SEC?

Then why are you here, other than to troll?

Mr_Tomahawk 01-21-2013 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 9340293)
Then why are you here, other than to troll?

Are you kidding...?

This stuff is getting interesting here for a change...

Stanley Nickels 01-21-2013 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9340270)
a Mongolian cluster****

Fun unrelated fact: 1 in 200 men are directly related to Genghis Khan

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp...bfx1o1_400.gif

mnchiefsguy 01-21-2013 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9340299)
Are you kidding...?

This stuff is getting interesting here for a change...

And all you do is troll...you contribute nothing to the conversation. You are as bad as CoMo in this thread.


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