Not even his own receivers trust Alex to win the game.

"We're not a team that can comeback from a deficit" -or some shit like that.

When your #1 Receiver says that, that's all you need to know.

He might as well had asked what Matt Cassel was doing.

I cant think of a HC that could call a worse set of plays in the 2 min offense than Reid has this year.

Just down right atrocious... You could put a love child of 400,000 NFL QB's over the history of the NFL and that kid would look at you like you are reeruned.

Reid is making Herm look competent.

I doubt Reid intended on Smith dumping it off 4 straight attempts.

The checkdown is likely designed in the play as an "oh shit" for Smith, i doubt the checkdowns were designed as primary targets.

See.....this is where I'm ****ing stuck.

We all know that Smith isn't going to throw down the field. So is Andy calling the plays hoping that Smith will snap out of it?

FYP

I have thrown as many TD's to WR's this year as Alex Smith.

KC runs a few 'designed' checkdown's, the ones where you see WR's blocking though. The checkdowns you saw yesterday were from Alex not wanted to take a shot downfield. AZ blitzed every play during that 1 minute drill, and not ONCE did he take the 1v1 with bowe.




He needs to start taking the shots down field. They review the same film, and see the same things we do. Even on the Kelce late fumble, Wilson was WIDE open on the 7 route, yet he checked down to the stick route.

Ran similar concepts last year but Alex at least attempted the throws...

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/1...epts-breakdown

Are you sure? Was it worse than the croyle/huard/thigpen/cassel/orton/quinn?

I mean, the last 8 years have been pretty awful.

Kansas City Chiefs at 01:09
1-10-KC 24
(1:09) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 25-J.Charles pushed ob at KC 26 for 2 yards (57-A.Okafor).
2-8-KC 26
(1:04) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short left to 81-J.Avant to KC 30 for 4 yards (25-J.Powers) [57-A.Okafor].
3-4-KC 30
(:42) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short middle to 81-J.Avant to KC 36 for 6 yards (25-J.Powers).
1-10-KC 36
(:22) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 25-J.Charles.
2-10-KC 36
(:19) (Shotgun) PENALTY on KC-72-E.Fisher, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at KC 36 - No Play.
2-15-KC 31
(:19) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short left to 12-A.Wilson.
3-15-KC 31
(:16) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 12-A.Wilson.
4-15-KC 31
(:11) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short middle to 81-J.Avant (93-C.Campbell).

Still can't wrap my mind around the 20 second run off after a 6 yard pass for a 1st down only to overthrow Charles on a swing pass.

No time outs...1min left. So the Chiefs decide to dink and dunk the middle of the field instead of getting the ball to the sidelines and then out of bounds to stop the clock...and when they got a 1st down...instead of spiking the ball they let 15-20sec run off the clock. LMAO.

Thats herm edwards level of stupid.

Let's not forget that 22 seconds elapsed between the two bolded plays. The lack of situational awareness is mind-bottling.

it far surpassed Herm Edwards level of stupid

I have never seen anything like that.

Thank God he just threw a pick on the first play against the 49ers because that was a lot less rapey feeling than what we witnessed yesterday

Ok, so at least two of you didn't forget. :D

my buddy who is a Broncos fan was watching with me because we were at a sports bar and he literally lol'd when I looked at him after the Wilson screen pass call and said, "do they think we have another quarter?"

I mean.

What?

16 seconds

no timeouts

WR screen

...what were they hoping for?

I just...

haha

I laughed. I used to get so mad at these things, but that part of me died after the Indy abortion last year.

This time?

Just pure laughter.

What the ****?

What I find mind boggling is what mind bottling is

Yes. Because with Huard, Thigpen, et al, I didn't have any hope; incompetence was expected.

CP lexicon.

This is a Cassel drive.
Duke
Duke
Duke
Duke

of

Dink
Dink
Dink....

Thought it might be

We lost by 3 ****ING points. 3!!!

We utilized that last 1:09 like we had no idea we were still in the game. We needed approximately 40 ****ING yards. 40!!!!! to give ourselves a legit chance to kick a game-tying FG. I hate this Staff, Our QB, and this Team. They are a heaping load of worthless cum curds.

First few seconds of this clip from Blades of Glory.

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I wonder what percentage of playoff games are decided in the last 2 minutes. An above average 2 minute offense seems like a crucial necessity going into the playoff, and ours has gone from fetal to fecal.

I agree with this. I think for whatever reason, Smith is terrified to take chances to the point of paralysis - even when the game is on the line.

Well its much easier to just blindly bash the shit hole QB then it is to tackle the Fat Guy for sure.

But if people are going to defend these game plans and the season long bullshit 2 min offense then fans get what they deserve...

This.

When Smith started throwing sideways passes in that drive, I fast-forwarded to the end and then deleted the game.

If it was single instance then it would have merit, but its been season long.

We have zero 2 min offense, we cant score or stretch the field, our play calling makes Herms look like the new version of Madden.

Reid is the root cause of this offense, Alex is just an extension of Reid on the field. Yes Alex sucks, but excuses for Reid so one can blame Alex is nauseating...

Remember 10 Days to prepare for Denver?

Our coach is a fat lazy white version of a Herm and Crennel love child.

Yup. They are a package deal.
The gameplan is terribad, and Alex executes it very well.

Wow ROFL

what happened to our 3 tight end sets that were so awesome?

Harris got hurt and they haven't been able to replace him. That was pretty much the exact moment the offense went into the tank.

Trent Green had a few of these limitations as well. Our offense, and Alex, can be VERY efficient as long as the defense is off balance and doesn't know what to expect.

As soon as they know we have to pass, it's over. Game. Set. Match.

You guys won't believe it but we were the same way, albeit much flashier, in 2004.

Trent and the offense was amazing until the defense knew we had to pass and then we were toast.

That's the problem with being a running team in a passing league.

I would think you're right but the screen to Wilson makes me wonder. Was that Reid attempting to be a genius or recognizing that Alex simply wouldn't go down field and hoping for the best? It was a horrible call either way, but we as fans will never know that type of thing.

Those little dump offs should be last ditch things and should never be thrown with a defender within 7 yards of them under that circumstance. The funny thing is, we likely could have gotten some chunk yardage out of a couple of those to Jamaal if we had a QB that made defenses respect the long ball.

This, if one goes they both go...

Reid made his oversized king bed, now he must sleep in it...

he picked Alex and signed him long term...

It was the worst/funniest Chiefs moment since Cassel's Fail Mary...

Sums up the current Chiefs pretty nicely.

Reid knows his QB, he signed the ****er... No Excuse for Reids game plans to be nothing but dumpoffs, screens, crossing routes, etc...

Alex is running Reids dumpster fire offense to perfection. There just isn't enough talent on the team to over come Reids dumb shit...

It killed me. Not only did you run 20 seconds off by not spiking the ball on 1st down, but the play you finally did run was a ****ing swing pass that you ****ing Ricky Vaughn'd for an incompletion.

We're running the Triple A offense.

Andy, Alex, Abortion.

These two were made for each other. Alex is the perfect guy to turtle up and shit his pants in pressure situations. Reid has never seen a clock in his life. His house in equipped with sun dials only.

Good thing we locked Alex up; wouldn't want anyone else getting this sort of competitive advantage with the game on the line.

Boom

It didn't have any sort of emotional reaction at the time. I just didn't understand it. I couldn't process what I was watching. I'm confident Junior High teams have the wherewithal to execute a better effort than what we watched.

Looking back, it pisses me off, but I'm the one to blame for watching this shit. I should know better by now. As a Chiefs fan, I have nobody to blame but myself for caring about this franchise when the writing is on the wall.

There is some evidence that Reid does want more a downfield passing game. That's the way they came out against the Titans and Alex threw two picks and was sacked a bunch of times. They tried it again in the first half against Miami and Alex got sacked on almost every deep dropback. It's a bad line and Alex holds the ball too long, waiting for the play to be 100% open. That's a deadly combination and Reid had to adjust. i don't think Reid likes playing Martyball, though, and keeps trying to get away from it (like forgetting to run JC and Davis).

Yeah, just when I think I have a deficit of ****s to give, they find a new way to spark a negative emotion.

It's sad, as a pass catcher during a Chiefs 2 minute drill, you're better off swatting an Alex Smith pass down to the ground just to save some clock.

Your choice. Get a clue.

I couldn't even yell. I just couldn't form a coherent sentence after that play. This guy is supposed to be a high IQ player. It certainly was a Chief play though, that's for damn sure.

Can you elaborate on Reid's gameplan being the cause? I know he has made some bad play calls & clock mis-management, but as far as the plays themselves, we run the same passing concepts as every other NFL team. Most of the time Alex either misses a read, line collapses or just plain out checks down/takes the underneath throw. These are not all designed 'check-downs'.


edit: Here is an example. The kelce fumble video. ignore the Kelce fumble and look at the spot passing concept. Flat defender stays with the arrow, Wilson #13 leaves his man on the 7 route.. wide open for a nice gain. Checks down to Kelce without even making the ****ing first read.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201412...408&tab=videos

That's DAT, btw.

I didn't see the last possession.

So why the check down? There is something fundamentally wrong with Reid and Smith... I cant put my hand on it. Everyone of Reid's plays has way too many outs which are great, but for some reason they are using them as first reads and not your typical dump offs...

And I am not going to quote the CP QB bashing manual and rehash the same old shit everyone says about Smith... He cant go deep, no accurate, blah blah blah, same ****s saying same shit its wore out.

I am sleeping a lot better on Sunday nights since I canceled Sunday Ticket this year and am not watching the Chiefs play stupid football.

Great catch noticing that. I hadn't noticed that. You have to wonder if he gets that ball to DAT, if he scores to the outside, given the defender slips.

This shit just makes me:shake:

was driving home from OKC and SO glad i was spared the agony of watching this dumpster fire on on the tube

Pretty much every play has a checkdown. This isn't on Reid....it's on Smith. Smith is looking at his first read and then immediately going checkdown.

We've seen him twice in the last three weeks running out of bounds or taking a sack on fourth down at the end of the game. Throw the ball. It doesn't matter. Throw the ball. Even if it's a 1% chance of being completed and a 99% chance of being intercepted, that's better than running out of bounds or taking the sack.

yup, that situation is not rocket surgery.

that would be a NUTHOOKS offense

that ****er calls a game for an offense he ain't got

Which one of you guys called in to "The Rant" tonight?

Almost had to be a CP member.

The STH that I get my tickets from is considering dumping them next year. Suppose it is good that the decision falls with him and not me. I was considering picking up his extra ticket permanently but not so sure now.

I think Herm could have done better.

But, but, but.... Stats man. He needs his positive stats.

He won't throw his receivers open. There is no coverage on the sideline on that play, he could have stared down the arrow and threw DAT (sorry bout that) open. Kelce's route will be open most of the time, he can sit or run the out depending on what he sees. Arrow pulls the flat defender down, 7 route over the top of that. This is a common sideline flood/spot concept.

That was a bad two minute drive, but there have been worse.

I mean, there have been two minute drives where the driving team throws a pick on the first play. That's gotta be worse.

Do you want the bandage ripped off real fast or so slow you feel every single bit of all the pain involved for 2 entire minutes ?

Yeah, the Cassel screen pass interception at San Diego occurred with 1:26 left in the game down 3.

I don't think that applies, here. Even after every short pass, wasted clock, etc... there's a (minuscule) chance something good happens on the next play. After an interception, unless Rivers is taking the snap, it's over.

We need Casey Printers back

I know what you mean. I guess , for me, it's a case of 'been here done that' too many times. When it comes down to coming from behind in the last 2 minutes I fully expect them to lose. Every single time.

I'm with you.
I hod the lowest of expectations for a positive outcome with that drive. But there's always that one chance.
Grbac had the huge Rison TD on that Monday night in oakland.
Cassell had the huge throw to Moss while in new England
Even the worst win every once in a while...

That was me I thought I did a good job of expressing my view.

:clap:

I was almost sure it had to be a CP member.

This offense has way too much chicken shit for him to make a salad.

I've kind of wondered why we don't go to our hurry up "two minute" offense, to change things up if the offense needs a spark. Turns out we apparently run the "two minute" offense the entire game. :banghead:

Take the outlet away and force him to go down Field.

I've already said that.

For every check down, take off a digit

Every part of this organization has shit the bed.

Dorsey shit the bed with the players that he's put on this team.
Reid shit the bed for continually starting players like McGlynn.
Smith shit the bed because he either has no confidence in himself or he's just a scared bitch and refuses to take chances.

Old people do