Updated rankings (again, keep in mind I haven't seen many play and haven't done any kind of evaluation. strictly off of limited, partial game observations)

1. Tahj Boyd
2. Teddy Bridgewater
3. Aaron Murray
4. Aj McCarron
5. Zach Mettenberger
6. David Fales
7. Stephen Morris
8. Brynn Renner
9. Logan Thomas
10. Devin Gardner

I planted my flag in Aaron Murray last season and I'm driving that sucker in with a ****ing sledgehammer now.

I don't pretend to know CFB nearly as much as the fine minds here, but I know when I see a QB who has "it."

Whatever the 'it' you see is, it's not then'it' of a big game QB.

Cool, brah. We will see. And I will be right here waiting to say I told you so.

I don't fall for QB often. Fell for Russell Wilson and Kaepernick and Geno. Only three I have touted on here.

I watch Murray every week. Every week.

even uga fans just tolerate murray...he spent the first 3 seasons breaking their hearts...i think he's a collection of solid skills with no special qualities

but he looks the part and will go in the first, i'd guess

If he wins a bunch of games v top 10 teams playing like he did against SC he change a lot of minds.

yup

Sounds too much like "Anne Murray".

Pass.

LMAO

just caught me right

I just realized how badly I want us to draft Clinton-Dix.

Just so every tackle I can go:

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McCarron looks pretty pedestrian to me. The guy will probably end up on an NFL team and be a career #2, but he's just "ok" at everything.

Jesus Manziel was such a ****ing douchewaffle yesterday. So glad those twerps lost.

I've yet to watch the kid from UCLA but heard he was quite outstanding. Anyone get to watch him?

Bugeater and Billay are probably still seeing him in their nightmares.

Yikes.

He looked pretty good last year when I was watching Fauria play. Haven't got to see him this year.

Any takes on Hogan?

I'm bored and going to watch Hogan, UCLA, and Fales.

Boyd still at the top of your list? I haven't seen him this year, but last year I was intrigued. Not sure what I'd think if the Chiefs drafted him. I'm not sure I want my wagon hitched to a guy that relies so much on the run.

Still, think about the QB depth with Boyd on the roster:

Smith - savvy vet with a good head on his shoulders
Boyd - incredible athlete that can make plays with his legs
Bray - prototypical everything developmental guy.

Aaron Murray = Landry Jones

Boyd looks like the real deal.

Yes, he does. Lol

Just twist the dagger a little deeper. ROFL

I still like Boyd as a 1st rounder.

The one I don't get is Marcus Mariota. Some mocks have him going #1 overall now?

That's junk.

Any chance we could pick up teh Tajh?

I know, I should just stop. Don't watch any tape, any reel, jack OR shit.

Just quit before I start.

But I can not. I want my 1st round/mid-2nd QB.

And I will nevar quit until I get him.

I think this year is all about offensive playmakers, and QB won't be addressed until next year. But it WILL be addressed next year.

That's my take.

I swear if we start trying to draft Super Line, I am going to ****ing puke all over Andy's mixed plate.

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I could see Jackson being the pick. Unless things go to hell in a hurry, the Chief's will be picking late in the first round. Andy likes to go linemen early.

Before the FSU game, Boyd was gonna go top ten. He sucked it up and now apparently he's a hardcore gambler so he may fall but he is a risk

Good. We are too pussy to pick a legit prospect high, so keep the downward spiral trending!

Derrick Carr from Fresno state is interesting

D. Carr is on espnu right now.

Love to have him in the 3 round.

I don't remember him being talked about as anything more than a late-rounder last year; am I wrong, or has he played very well this year?

Derek Carr is a great kid, but nowhere near the talent of Bray. I have seen every Bray game since his High school sophomore year, and follow Carr because Fresno state is the local team. Carr and Bray were the 2 top HS QB's in the central valley. Bray at Kingsburg and Carr at Bakersfield Christian. Carr had the name and Fresno coach at the time Pat Hill locked him up early because he's David Carr's little Bro.
If you want solid character more than high ceiling, then Carr is your guy. If you want a guy with a ceiling like an open air stadium, you already have him on the roster. The college maturity bs has so far shown to be in his past.
Carr will be way better than Daniel but I 'd like to see him go to a team with better future opportunities for him.

Really no better than last year. In fact, his yards per attempt and overall QB rating is lower this year than it was last year.

You have to remember where you're at...

Sac, still looking at stats to determine a qbs worth.

Nice to see.

What do you want me to say? He's the same guy as last year. I've watched him play a number of times.

He's a red shirt senior, three year starter in a QB friendly system and is putting up pretty good numbers.

He is what he is. He's not going to be a world beater and he's definitely not the same level of talent as his older brother. Derek Carr is the same type of QB that you see every single year in the draft. He's just a guy. If you want to talk about a guy with a much higher ceiling in the same conference, Chuckie Keeton should be the guy you are talking about (depending upon how he recovers from that shitty knee shot he took against BYU which blew out both his ACL and MCL.)

As well, I think that the Chiefs have a guy in Bray that has a substantially higher ceiling.

I thought, from what I've watched, he has really good arm strength (up there with bray actually) good pocket presence, good mobility and great iq.

Round 3 is probably high, but he's a great piece of clay to mold in the later rounds.

Carr's arm strength isn't even close to Bray 's or his big brother David' s. Physically Carr is a run of the mill QB. Best attribute appears to be his Character. I do root for him to have a better NFL experience than his brother. Being the Texas's first ever pick and having no line whatsoever didn't do David's career any favors.

So I'm watching Fresno st tonight, and cCarr absolutely has brays arm strength. He's a really good prospect

Also from looking around online and on twitter, thought seems to be Carr in the late 1-early3 range on Carr

It's not even close. Bray has as strong an arm as anyone in the NFL. Carr is about average.

Seriously, tell me why Manziel is not even in the discussion. Is everybody retarted or is it me ???

Manziel is Justin Bieber with an arm. He's short for an NFL QB and will be dependent on his mobility in order to have throwing lanes with tall NFL linemen. He has a clutch aspect that can't be taught. However, like all the other running QB's, he'll be injured often. Running QB's don't win championships. NFL defenses are pretty good at figuring them out. Kaepernick who has way more physical talent than Manziel is finding it difficult this year because defenses have adjusted to him.

Because he's white.

If he were a pocket passer, it would be one thing, but if you are going to put out another Vick or Griffin, nobody is going to buy that the dude is a honkie.

Sure, Fran Tarkenton, Steve Young and a host of others come to mind (let alone consider that Warren Moon and Doug Williams were pocket guys), but in this day and age, that's not going to fly.

Actually, in all seriousness, Manziel has shown an amazing ability to flat out ****ing ball. He absolutely toys with defenders and has an understanding of the field while on the move that I haven't seen since Fran Tarkenton. He's uncanny.

If a team needs a QB, he'd be the first guy on my list.

That's "chicken-necked, rock-a-billy honky" to you.

Dude is even more of an immature ass than Bray...

Does an immature ass bray?

Bray is growing up. Saw him at the Kingsburg HS Football game on Friday. He was with his family and girlfriend. It appears that she's having a positive effect on him.

Are you sure you are not tyler bray's near-relative trying to convince us he is our savior?

No, just a neighbor and a fan he doesn't know. It's a small town and everyone knows the family. The town barber has all the info on the HS football team past, present, and future.
Oh and he is the Chiefs savior.

I admit, I was a Johnny Manziel hater last year. The majority of his TD's seemed like running scores, and his passing didn't really impress me all that much. The hype vs his play led me to believe he was much over rated.

After watching him this year, he seems to have really stepped up his game. He just seems to have that IT factor. It should be interesting to see where he lands and follow his career. I'm starting to really like watching him play.

Bryce Petty

And the Fart Breakers.

So many things about him that go against what most NFL front offices want.

Not saying he can't be a good QB, but odds are against it.

From what I've seen

1) Manziel

2) Mettenberger

3) Blake Bortles

When I watch Manziel am I the only one that sees him chuck horrible passes into traffic only to see his 10ft tall WR's come down with them every time?

He scares the shit out of me as a prospect. If those passes are what they look like his NFL career will be as long as Tebow. If those look terrible but are actually perfect throws where only his guy can get em, he's going to be an all time great....

You should always be scared of prospects/CP Axl's

If Manziel falls to us (somewhere in the mid-late 20s, presumably), is there a chance that Dorsey pulls the trigger on him as he once did on Rodgers?

The dude brings drama, no question, but his instincts and athleticism are off the charts, and as others have mentioned, his passing game is underrated due to the excitement about his ability to run.

Dorsey did not pull a trigger on Rodgers...

Dorsey was a scout in GB.

1. Manziel

Check yoself. Dorsey was the director of college scouting during that period, so don't pretend that he didn't have anything less than a commanding influence on the Packers' drafts during his tenure there.

I'll check myself when you realize that Director of College Scouting does not equal General Manager.

There is no blueprint for how Dorsey drafts. All we know is that he spent 2 2nd round picks on Alex Smith (:doh!::banghead::facepalm:) and the Chiefs are yet again not likely to make a legitimate attempt at solidifying the most important position on the field.

Frankly, we don't KNOW how much Dorsey drafts. We DO know he's a ****ing stud in the FA market, so I'll put 2 and 2 together, and send Reid out for some ribs in the month of April.

Do not want Mettenberger.

Tyler Bray

Don't fall for the "potential" of Logan Thomas. Believe me, as a VT fan I've seen him play plenty. Great physical specimen, but absolutely no football instincts. Has no touch on the ball - will fire a 100mph fastball to a receiver 5 yards away. Has absolutely no internal clock back in the pocket - will get nailed from his blind side every time. As far as accuracy, he'll look great for one game, but awful for the next 2 games. Has a terrible habit of sailing, overthrowing receivers. Personally committed 8 turnovers in back-to-back losses to Duke and Boston College. A project? Yes, but he was a project in college and as a 5th year senior hasn't really progressed since the day he stepped on campus.

Welp, Mariota is out. Staying at Oregon.

Welp, Petty is out. Staying at Baylor.

Everyone say it with me.


Derek Carr for governor

Anyone who has actually watched him play and still believes in his potential should probably swallow toothpicks until they stop breathing.

He's terrible.

He's Josh Freeman.

Logan Thomas wishes he was Josh Freeman

Well, at least you're getting Manziel closer to where he really deserves to be.

Where with McCarron go? I think a mid 2nd - 3rd.

It's interesting that Manziel hasn't declared yet. I bet he is being projected as a 2nd or 3rd rounder. If he is all that and truly a first rounder, there is no reason he should go back to school. It will be interesting to see what happens but I.m thinking he goes back to school. He has a lot to prove in terms of maturity.

He's going to be a tight end at the next level. He was actually initially recruited to play the tight end position.

He's got scary level athleticism, is long and understands the passing game.

And it gives you a lot of options on offense.

I don't find it interesting. I find it to be Typical Johnny Manziel, I cant stand the spotlight, but I CANT BE OUT OF the spotlight behavior. He waited until after the BCS was over, made an announcement the day before, he is actually making the announcement so that he could be the center of attention.

This jackass, (no offense hog farmer) is going to end up in Cleveland at four.