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BossChief 04-21-2013 02:39 PM

How much are they gonna pay him?

13 a year?

14?

notorious 04-21-2013 02:41 PM

:facepalm:

It's sad, but if we traded Flowers for that amount I would be OK.


This trade excedes the Alex Smith trade in stupidity.

DTLB58 04-21-2013 02:44 PM

@RapSheet: Business manager RT @JohnGeiger_: Everyone congratulate the newest Tampa Bay Buc @Revis24 #bucnation #revisIsland http://t.co/MzBYJGncaq

Al Bundy 04-21-2013 02:46 PM

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 36s
Trade official: Darrelle Revis passed physical. Bucs send 1st in 2013 and conditional 4th in 2014 that could be 3rd to Jets. More on ESPNews

Al Bundy 04-21-2013 02:49 PM

Tampa Bay Buccaneers ‏@TBBuccaneers 3m

The Bucs and Darrelle Revis have also agreed on a new six-year deal.

bowener 04-21-2013 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 9610752)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers ‏@TBBuccaneers 3m

The Bucs and Darrelle Revis have also agreed on a new six-year deal.

You aren't happy about this are you?

ThaVirus 04-21-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 9610752)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers ‏@TBBuccaneers 3m

The Bucs and Darrelle Revis have also agreed on a new six-year deal.

Can only imagine how much that deal will bring him..

I think Clay Matthews just got 6 years at $66. Think Revis gets more?

Al Bundy 04-21-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 9610762)
You aren't happy about this are you?

I am.... no guaranteed money.

penbrook 04-21-2013 02:56 PM

PFCentral is saying Jets would like to get Austin at #9 and Mingo at #13.

nychief 04-21-2013 02:57 PM

Rich Cimini ‏@RichCimini 1m
Revis signed 6-year, $96 million deal with #Bucs, but no gtd $, per .@AdamSchefter. It was always about the yearly avg for Revis. #Jets
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BossChief 04-21-2013 03:00 PM

Hold on.

Thats 16/yr

Wow

OnTheWarpath15 04-21-2013 03:02 PM

If the report about their being no guaranteed money in the deal is true, then I think both sides did well here. He only gets $16M if he plays, they can dump him at any time if need be.

Jets are going to have the ammo to move up, or take two great players in the first.

Bucs have a CB that can help matchup against those monsters in Atlanta as well as Colston/Graham in NO.

nychief 04-21-2013 03:06 PM

so it's not guaranteed? They still have to pay him 16 ****ing million dollars a year... it still counts against the cap... no contract is guaranteed in the NFL.

Al Bundy 04-21-2013 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 9610780)
so it's not guaranteed? They still have to pay him 16 ****ing million dollars a year... it still counts against the cap... no contract is guaranteed in the NFL.

If he's still injured or gets injured, there is no cap hit. Win for the Bucs... the Jets, well they still have Mark Sanchez.

BossChief 04-21-2013 03:09 PM

That's a move a team makes that has a chance to win a superbowl in the next 3 or 4 years.

I wouldn't put TB in that category.

penbrook 04-21-2013 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 9610780)
so it's not guaranteed? They still have to pay him 16 ****ing million dollars a year... it still counts against the cap... no contract is guaranteed in the NFL.

Guaranteed money means say he only plays one year and than gets cut the Bucs have to pay him the guaranteed money.

Guaranteed money is about a half of the total money.

nychief 04-21-2013 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 9610782)
If he's still injured or gets injured, there is no cap hit. Win for the Bucs... the Jets, well they still have Mark Sanchez.

but then they've given up 3 picks for nothing still... which is worse, no?

nychief 04-21-2013 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9610785)
Guaranteed money means say he only plays one year and than gets cut the Bucs have to pay him the guaranteed money.

Guaranteed money is about a half of the total money.

I understand.. but I still don't see it as a coup. They either get an injured player and they are out the picks... or they are playing 16 mil for a CB.

Al Bundy 04-21-2013 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 9610787)
but then they've given up 3 picks for nothing still... which is worse, no?

They only gave up 2.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-21-2013 03:21 PM

16 million a year for a corner is LMAO whether it's guaranteed or not

Pasta Little Brioni 04-21-2013 03:21 PM

LMAO

Titty Meat 04-21-2013 03:21 PM

Would be nice to get both of the jets pick for the #1 overall but our staff is ****ing stupid.

Al Bundy 04-21-2013 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9610805)
16 million a year for a corner is LMAO whether it's guaranteed or not

The deal will be re worked, just like Vincent Jackson and Carl Nicks.

OnTheWarpath15 04-21-2013 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9610805)
16 million a year for a corner is LMAO whether it's guaranteed or not

If they have the cap space, who cares?

We paid $16M twice for Matt Cassel.

At least Revis is one of the most talented players at his position.

We paid that much for one of the worst.

Mother****erJones 04-21-2013 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9610810)
Would be nice to get both of the jets pick for the #1 overall but our staff is ****ing stupid.

It takes two to tango. We might ask for both but the Jets probably don't want to get to 1.

Mr. Laz 04-21-2013 03:39 PM

John Clayton ‏@ClaytonESPN 1m
The Jets lose $3 million of cap room by trading Revis, but they prepared themselves. After the trade, the Jets have $8.3 million of room.
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John Clayton ‏@ClaytonESPN 3m
With the Revis deal costing the Bucs $16 million in cash and cap next year, they still have $8.4 million of cap room next year.
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Setsuna 04-21-2013 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9610810)
Would be nice to get both of the jets pick for the #1 overall but our staff is ****ing stupid.

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO No one wants your stupid behind 1.1 pick. Let it go dude.

Mother****erJones 04-21-2013 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 9610908)
LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO No one wants your stupid behind 1.1 pick. Let it go dude.

God get the **** out of this forum! Go to a ****ing jags forum you idiot

Setsuna 04-21-2013 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9610937)
God get the **** out of this forum! Go to a ****ing jags forum you idiot

My 7,592 posts says you really need to get over it. Seriously.

notorious 04-21-2013 04:33 PM

We are infested with Jagoff fans.

Mother****erJones 04-21-2013 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 9610944)
My 7,592 posts says you really need to get over it. Seriously.

Ya you're 7 thousand posts in a CHIEFS forum.

Marcellus 04-21-2013 04:41 PM

I hate the idea of this trade from a fan perspective and I could give 2 shits less about the Bucks, thing is this draft class is so weak it may not be bad deal.

JoeyChuckles 04-21-2013 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9610957)
Ya you're 7 thousand posts in a CHIEFS forum.

Take it as a compliment, other team's fans think our forum is the best.

Setsuna 04-21-2013 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9610946)
We are infested with Jagoff fans.

I'd expect much more intelligence from you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyChuckles (Post 9610971)
Take it as a compliment, other team's fans think our forum is the best.

Pretty much this. This place is excellent.

notorious 04-21-2013 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 9611009)
I'd expect much more intelligence from you.



The level of expectation from myself when I am on CP is lower than whale shit.

notorious 04-21-2013 07:45 PM

It has become a hassle to read Blackmon's posts. He is giving you guys a bad name.

Setsuna 04-21-2013 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9612105)
The level of expectation from myself when I am on CP is lower than whale shit.

ROFLROFLROFLROFL Nice

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9612135)
It has become a hassle to read Blackmon's posts. He is giving you guys a bad name.

I ignored him within the first week of his join day. I've been smooth sailing ever since unless people quote him, which they did from time to time to my dismay. But yeah he is indicative of the entire fan base which is why we've sucked for almost decade and have just now made moves to start sucking less. They kept going to games like lambs to the slaughter and was ok with the poor management.

Bewbies 04-21-2013 08:00 PM

We have a Jags fan on this forum bragging about having 8,000 posts. In a Chiefs forum.

He's a winner.

KevB 04-21-2013 08:01 PM

Here we go baby

KevB 04-21-2013 08:03 PM

* edit - wrong thread

Setsuna 04-21-2013 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9612300)
We have a Jags fan on this forum bragging about having 8,000 posts. In a Chiefs forum.

He's a winner.

Your reading comprehension is non existent. In the context I said what I said to mean that I've been here for a while, even long before him, and he's just going to have to get used to that fact.

Bewbies 04-21-2013 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 9612437)
Your reading comprehension is non existent. In the context I said what I said to mean that I've been here for a while, even long before him, and he's just going to have to get used to that fact.

I can't read, you'll never get laid. So be it.

Al Bundy 04-21-2013 08:28 PM

Quit mucking up the thread of the move that is going to win the Buccaneers the 2013-2014 superbowl.

Bewbies 04-21-2013 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 9612727)
Quit mucking up the thread of the move that is going to win the Buccaneers the 2013-2014 superbowl.

If he returns to his old form your defense just got way better. Maybe you'll get the wild card?

Al Bundy 04-21-2013 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9612741)
If he returns to his old form your defense just got way better. Maybe you'll get the wild card?

If he returns to 2011 form we are feasting on dirty disgusting red and black birds. **** Matt Ryan.

ChiefsCountry 04-21-2013 08:34 PM

Jadeveon Clowney better start looking for places in New York.

Bewbies 04-21-2013 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9612771)
Jadeveon Clowney better start looking for places in New York.

Oakland.

Bewbies 04-21-2013 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 9612760)
If he returns to 2011 form we are feasting on dirty disgusting red and black birds. **** Matt Ryan.

You're the 3rd best team in your division still...

Al Bundy 04-21-2013 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9612799)
You're the 3rd best team in your division still...

If you say so.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-21-2013 10:02 PM

That's a god awful trade for the Bucs. At least they can cut him after a few years when he proves he's clearly lost a step.

Maybe a team that can't defend the pass should invest in players that can rush the passer, since cornerbacks can't actually play pass defense now. Just a thought.

Mother****erJones 04-21-2013 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9613114)
That's a god awful trade for the Bucs. At least they can cut him after a few years when he proves he's clearly lost a step.

Maybe a team that can't defend the pass should invest in players that can rush the passer, since cornerbacks can't actually play pass defense now. Just a thought.

I don't see it as one. They need a shutdown corner in that division. He's more valuable to them than most teams because of the WRs and TEs they face. Plus its not got guarantees and that's good for TB.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-21-2013 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9613119)
I don't see it as one. They need a shutdown corner in that division. He's more valuable to them than most teams because of the WRs and TEs they face. Plus its not got guarantees and that's good for TB.

They paid a first for a year of Revis before he was hitting FA anyway. A year in which he was going to be coming off of major knee surgery.

If they really wanted him they could have waited until the year was over when he opted out then given him a large contract. They could use the #13 overall on a guy who can rush the passer, because outside of McCoy they have crap up front.

Would have been a great landing spot for Jarvis Jones, actually.

Mother****erJones 04-21-2013 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9613132)
They paid a first for a year of Revis before he was hitting FA anyway. A year in which he was going to be coming off of major knee surgery.

If they really wanted him they could have waited until the year was over when he opted out then given him a large contract. They could use the #13 overall on a guy who can rush the passer, because outside of McCoy they have crap up front.

Would have been a great landing spot for Jarvis Jones, actually.

I agree but at the rate some of these guys are coming back from ACL injuries, they'll have a guy that can shut down Julio Jones, Colston, Steve Smith, or White if they put him on him.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-21-2013 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9613137)
I agree but at the rate some of these guys are coming back from ACL injuries, they'll have a guy that can shut down Julio Jones, Colston, Steve Smith, or White if they put him on him.

That's great, but what are the Bucs going to do when the QB has 5.5 seconds to throw on every play because they can't generate a pass rush?

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-21-2013 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9612792)
Oakland.

Interesting thought. Clowney would rip Joeckel's tits off for the next five years.

Mother****erJones 04-21-2013 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9613145)
That's great, but what are the Bucs going to do when the QB has 5.5 seconds to throw on every play because they can't generate a pass rush?

You can find one in round 2. It's not out of the realm of possibilty. I agree. I'm not a bucs fan so I can't answer that. But Revis allows creative blitzes and schemes.

BossChief 04-21-2013 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9613114)
That's a god awful trade for the Bucs. At least they can cut him after a few years when he proves he's clearly lost a step.

Maybe a team that can't defend the pass should invest in players that can rush the passer, since cornerbacks can't actually play pass defense now. Just a thought.

I don't understand why they didn't just wait it out.

Giving up that much in picks on top of paying 16/yr is just silly.

Mother****erJones 04-21-2013 10:17 PM

Ya I would have waited it out. Only the Bucs wanted him that we know of. Not many teams have the cap for him. Kind of like the Albert situation.

Tribal Warfare 04-21-2013 10:19 PM

I haven't read the whole thread, and saying that we should keep an eye on this deal because the Jets may very well be vying for Geno . If KC is wants to trade down then Jets are good candidates for trade partners with two 1st round picks.

Mother****erJones 04-21-2013 10:20 PM

Would be a dream to get 9,13 for 1

Al Bundy 04-21-2013 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9613145)
That's great, but what are the Bucs going to do when the QB has 5.5 seconds to throw on every play because they can't generate a pass rush?

That will be fixed.

BossChief 04-21-2013 10:24 PM

Last I checked, TB was WAYYYY under the cap.

Was the Revis trade a move they had to do to get over the cap floor?

Maybe they had to spend it, or pay the financial penalty of not doing so that is the equivalent of the amount needed to reach the cap floor....and that amount is split up to all players iirc.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-21-2013 10:27 PM

If the Jets want Geno just ask for 9 and next year's #1.

BossChief 04-21-2013 10:27 PM

9 = 1350 points
13 = 1150 points

1= 3000 points

Giving the Jets a 500 point discount would be fair compensation.

Mother****erJones 04-21-2013 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9613181)
Last I checked, TB was WAYYYY under the cap.

Was the Revis trade a move they had to do to get over the cap floor?

Maybe they had to spend it, or pay the financial penalty of not doing so that is the equivalent of the amount needed to reach the cap floor....and that amount is split up to all players iirc.

I think it's more of defending the Receivers in that division and conference

RunKC 04-21-2013 10:39 PM

This is a fantastic trade for the Jets.

They get 2 picks in the top 13 now and some cash to use in FA next year.

One of the strengths in this draft is CB. They can easily get a good player for a cheaper price and younger talent.

Mother****erJones 04-21-2013 10:41 PM

Meh, if I were the Jets GM I'd want the Bucs 1 next year.

BossChief 04-21-2013 10:42 PM

Tavon Austin and Jarvis Jones would be a nice way to spend those draft dollars.

RunKC 04-21-2013 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9613232)
Tavon Austin and Jarvis Jones would be a nice way to spend those draft dollars.

That would be insane. Wow.

BossChief 04-21-2013 10:56 PM

If we could swing a trade with NY and get those two with the picks, I'd be happy.

Sign Albert long term and if he wants traded, use the pick on Ogletree....I think he will drop out of the first and with a run of qbs in the second round, he could drop to the Dolphins second rounder.

NY gets Geno
Miami gets Albert

Chiefs get Austin, Jones and Ogletree.

I would be done being salty about the Alex Smith trade.

Mother****erJones 04-21-2013 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9613278)
If we could swing a trade with NY and get those two with the picks, I'd be happy.

Sign Albert long term and if he wants traded, use the pick on Ogletree....I think he will drop out of the first and with a run of qbs in the second round, he could drop to the Dolphins second rounder.

NY gets Geno
Miami gets Albert

Chiefs get Austin, Jones and Ogletree.

I would be done being salty about the Alex Smith trade.

That's if the Jets like Geno that much. Due to being in New York they need to make a splash so we'll see.

BryanBusby 04-21-2013 11:21 PM

The Jets aren't trading up for Geno. Their roster is a ****ing disaster and Rex Ryan is a dead man walking.

Also, his agent is god awful. 100 million extension and not a single dollar guaranteed.

Just Passin' By 04-21-2013 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9613188)
9 = 1350 points
13 = 1150 points

1= 3000 points

Giving the Jets a 500 point discount would be fair compensation.

It could just be a smokescreen, but

Quote:

GM John Idzik has sent out word that he's interested in trading down to acquire extra draft picks, according to a league source. This strategy makes sense because some of the players they're targeting at No. 9 could be available a few spots lower -- or at least players of similar value. The problem will be finding a team willing to change places. What player would be worth trading up for? West Virginia QB Geno Smith could be a target for someone, but no team from No. 10 to No. 32 has a glaring need at quarterback.
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jet...medium=twitter

Mother****erJones 04-22-2013 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 9613332)
The Jets aren't trading up for Geno. Their roster is a ****ing disaster and Rex Ryan is a dead man walking.

Also, his agent is god awful. 100 million extension and not a single dollar guaranteed.

I know. It's more wishful thinking

King_Chief_Fan 04-22-2013 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9613296)
That's if the Jets like Geno that much. Due to being in New York they need to make a splash so we'll see.

This morning ESPN is guessing the Jets will pick Nassib (sp) from Syracuse..:hmmm:

Mother****erJones 04-22-2013 06:56 AM

I don't get the infatuation with Nassib in the top 10

The Bad Guy 04-22-2013 07:25 AM

I think people are selling Tampa mighty short in that division.

They have a stud back, a great oline (when healthy), a much, much improved secondary (by far the best in the division), linebackers who can make plays.

I honestly wouldn't be shocked to see them be better than Atlanta.

I like Freeman probably more than most though.

Al Bundy 04-22-2013 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9613610)
I think people are selling Tampa mighty short in that division.

They have a stud back, a great oline (when healthy), a much, much improved secondary (by far the best in the division), linebackers who can make plays.

I honestly wouldn't be shocked to see them be better than Atlanta.

I like Freeman probably more than most though.

You and I are on the same page.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-22-2013 11:56 AM

Meh, Al will be waving the white flag early in the year yet again methinks.

ChiefsCountry 04-22-2013 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9614146)
Meh, Al will be waving the white flag early in the year yet again methinks.

Normally with him, its the first snap of the game.


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