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Reaper16 04-07-2013 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 9564303)
What did he say?

That Shields never could shake off the "loser's mentality" of the old Rays.

(Which contradicts everything that Dayton said about wanting to trade for Shields because of Shields' makeup, so I don't really believe Longoria. I was just making a wry comment)

SAUTO 04-07-2013 12:02 PM

**** Dayton moore
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WhawhaWhat 04-07-2013 12:02 PM

I blame Ned Yost for trading for Shields and for not putting Chen in the game already.

stonedstooge 04-07-2013 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9564311)
That Shields never could shake off the "loser's mentality" of the old Rays.

Thanks

Demonpenz 04-07-2013 12:03 PM

I expect shields to be an ace. The royals traded 6 prospects for this idiot.

Bowser 04-07-2013 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9564311)
That Shields never could shake off the "loser's mentality" of the old Rays.

Evan Longoria said that? That's a pretty strong statement to make about a former teammate.

RedDread 04-07-2013 12:03 PM

Okay, caught up to real time. FFFFFFFFFFFFF

stonedstooge 04-07-2013 12:03 PM

Let's get a couple here

RedDread 04-07-2013 12:04 PM

Listening to Hud when we're losing is like nails on a chalkboard.

Chiefshrink 04-07-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9564302)
Yost said he had all the confidence in Holland after three straight walks that he was going to get out of that inning.

Then Yost's instinct sucks as to when pitchers are off and need to be replaced. Hell, you can even look at the 2ks Holland got weren't his doing but more hitters being so damn hungry to devour this pitcher who they knew was in meltdown mode thus they became undisciplined going after bad pitches thus Holland gets lucky. If those batters were disciplined Holland literally walks in 2 runs.

GoHuge 04-07-2013 12:05 PM

With Hamels dealin today this ass raping is really going to make last night's abortion sting even more.

KCUnited 04-07-2013 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9564319)
Evan Longoria said that? That's a pretty strong statement to make about a former teammate.

He lumped Upton in with Shields as well.

LoneWolf 04-07-2013 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 9564317)
I expect shields to be an ace. The royals traded 6 prospects for this idiot.

He allowed one run his last start and had a very unlucky inning to start the game. Unbunch your panties and have a beer.

tk13 04-07-2013 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9564311)
That Shields never could shake off the "loser's mentality" of the old Rays.

(Which contradicts everything that Dayton said about wanting to trade for Shields because of Shields' makeup, so I don't really believe Longoria. I was just making a wry comment)

The funny thing about that is you could make an argument Shields was right. Longoria's comments made it sound like Shields used to be the guy saying don't take this for granted, things used to be a lot worse here. And that was right, really.

Chiefshrink 04-07-2013 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9564319)
Evan Longoria said that? That's a pretty strong statement to make about a former teammate.

either grinding an axe or it's true.

Old Dog 04-07-2013 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedDread (Post 9564322)
Listening to Hud when he opens his mouth is like nails on a chalkboard.

hope you don't mind, I had to change it

Bambi 04-07-2013 12:07 PM

Same shitty little chip hits off the Royals bats. I swear, the Royals hitting sounds worse than any other team ever. It's never solid contact. Ever

duncan_idaho 04-07-2013 12:07 PM

I'm not going to panic based on that inning, and you shouldn't either. Lot of luck involved for the Phillies (mostly in setting up ... first 3 hits were all helped by placement).

Bambi 04-07-2013 12:08 PM

I'm not sure why everyone is so concerned about the pitching in here. I mean it isn't very good but the hitting is pathetic. As per usual.

KCUnited 04-07-2013 12:08 PM

Reminds me of when Brett played for Philly. /Hud

lewdog 04-07-2013 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 9564323)
Then Yost's instinct sucks as to when pitchers are off and need to be replaced. Hell, you can even look at the 2ks Holland got weren't his doing but more hitters being so damn hungry to devour this pitcher who they knew was in meltdown mode thus they became undisciplined going after bad pitches thus Holland gets lucky. If those batters were disciplined Holland literally walks in 2 runs.

So you pull your named closer in his second outing of the year for him? Name me one manager who would have pulled him there.

Oh yea, no one. You pull him there, he gains nothing but the idea that a manager doesn't have confidence in him. He goes on to lose, he now learns what he needs to work on. Last thing you want is a closer who feels on a short leash early in the season. If it happens a few more times, then you look at other options. But not in a closer's second outing.

I mean really, do some of you even watch baseball for an entire year?

tk13 04-07-2013 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9564319)
Evan Longoria said that? That's a pretty strong statement to make about a former teammate.

“There was a lot of history with B.J. and Shields in this organization, and I think there were some things that were tough for them to get beyond,” Longoria said. “They were really the only ones that were left in here that were here before the Rays were in 2008 when we started to be the team that we are now. I think some of those things kind of stuck around, and as much as you try to instill the new way, some of those things, it was tough to get some of those thoughts out of their head.

“And so, I think, obviously they were great players, but as far as an overarching belief in what we try to do here, I think with the new people that we have now, it's a completely new belief in what we're trying to do here. I don't know if that came out the right way. I'm not trying to be negative in any way, obviously, but I think with the personalities that we brought in, we really from Day One in spring training, we're all on this same page, and same belief that now Tampa Bay is a destination where as before it wasn't really.”

tk13 04-07-2013 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 9564340)
I'm not sure why everyone is so concerned about the pitching in here. I mean it isn't very good but the hitting is pathetic. As per usual.

Royals pitching actually led the AL in fewest runs allowed coming into today. It's been solid so far.

WhawhaWhat 04-07-2013 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 9564323)
Then Yost's instinct sucks as to when pitchers are off and need to be replaced. Hell, you can even look at the 2ks Holland got weren't his doing but more hitters being so damn hungry to devour this pitcher who they knew was in meltdown mode thus they became undisciplined going after bad pitches thus Holland gets lucky. If those batters were disciplined Holland literally walks in 2 runs.

Who is the bigger idiot, Ned Yost or the guy that takes his coach speak at face value?

lewdog 04-07-2013 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9564346)
Royals pitching actually led the AL in fewest runs allowed coming into today. It's been solid so far.

**** you for presenting facts!!!

We are here to have knee jerk reactions to games 5-6 of the year. F off!!!

RedDread 04-07-2013 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 9564334)
Same shitty little chip hits off the Royals bats. I swear, the Royals hitting sounds worse than any other team ever. It's never solid contact. Ever

I agree, seems like hitters with the exception of Cain and Frenchy just seem to be going up there trying to make contact.

Shogun 04-07-2013 12:12 PM

Shields has great stuff this inning

stonedstooge 04-07-2013 12:13 PM

That'll work

duncan_idaho 04-07-2013 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9564343)
So you pull your named closer in his second outing of the year for him? Name me one manager who would have pulled him there.

Oh yea, no one. You pull him there, he gains nothing but the idea that a manager doesn't have confidence in him. He goes on to lose, he now learns what he needs to work on. Last thing you want is a closer who feels on a short leash early in the season. If it happens a few more times, then you look at other options. But not in a closer's second outing.

I mean really, do some of you even watch baseball for an entire year?

This, exactly this, 100 times this.

Bambi 04-07-2013 12:13 PM

There we go. 1-2-3, world series

MeatRock 04-07-2013 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 9564323)
Then Yost's instinct sucks as to when pitchers are off and need to be replaced. Hell, you can even look at the 2ks Holland got weren't his doing but more hitters being so damn hungry to devour this pitcher who they knew was in meltdown mode thus they became undisciplined going after bad pitches thus Holland gets lucky. If those batters were disciplined Holland literally walks in 2 runs.

Holland's 2 K's were his doing goddammit. They swung at slider's. They didn't just get themselves out. JFC some people overreact and talk out of their ass.

RedDread 04-07-2013 12:15 PM

Memo to Christian Mingle: your audience for this game is mostly male.

Just FYI...

Shogun 04-07-2013 12:15 PM

GETZ BUNTING FOR MORE POWER

RedDread 04-07-2013 12:15 PM

Hahaha, Getzy bunting it to the fat man at 1B. Good jerb!

duncan_idaho 04-07-2013 12:16 PM

"So much strategy involved here... " -- says dumbass NL fan.

RedDread 04-07-2013 12:17 PM

Lets go Gordo, 2 bagger.

RedDread 04-07-2013 12:18 PM

This Ump has the best strike zone of any in the series so far.

Not hard to do, but there's that.

stonedstooge 04-07-2013 12:18 PM

Make him throw strikes Alcides

RedDread 04-07-2013 12:21 PM

ALCIDEEEEEEZZZ NUTS!!!!

Shogun 04-07-2013 12:21 PM

ESCOBAR IS CLUTCH

MeatRock 04-07-2013 12:21 PM

Nice hit Esky

stonedstooge 04-07-2013 12:21 PM

w00t. Alcides drives in 1. 4-1

MeatRock 04-07-2013 12:21 PM

Come on Country Breakfast!!!!!

Al Bundy 04-07-2013 12:22 PM

Gotta get at least 1 more across this inning.

Old Dog 04-07-2013 12:22 PM

LOL @ Hudler: hit for, hit for, hit for, well **** it, who am I kidding?

RedDread 04-07-2013 12:23 PM

Billy's pressing. At least we got 1.

MeatRock 04-07-2013 12:23 PM

Billy is ****ing slumping early this year.

stonedstooge 04-07-2013 12:23 PM

Billay with the sacrifice. 4-2

BlackHelicopters 04-07-2013 12:23 PM

Every grandma and grandpa needs life alert.

Bambi 04-07-2013 12:23 PM

Don't **** this up Belly.

RedDread 04-07-2013 12:24 PM

Lets see if Salvy can come through with something clutch.

Shogun 04-07-2013 12:24 PM

esky with a bag, nice.

Al Bundy 04-07-2013 12:24 PM

I missed the first two games and part of friday's game, but I haven't seen Billy really hit one on the nail, alot of putzy swings.

Ceej 04-07-2013 12:25 PM

Guys, look at it like this..

At least we didn't make a run for Dickey.

He has been TURRRRRIBLE today.

stonedstooge 04-07-2013 12:25 PM

Welp, cut the lead in half. Good inning

MeatRock 04-07-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9564408)
Guys, look at it like this..

At least we didn't make a run for Dickey.

He has been TURRRRRIBLE today.

Agree. Dickey is ****ing horrible

RedDread 04-07-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 9564410)
Welp, cut the lead in half. Good inning

Yep, cracked open a beer. I hate drinking during a game where we're getting our asses handed to us. Drunk and depressed....never a good combo.

MeatRock 04-07-2013 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RedDread (Post 9564412)
Yep, cracked open a beer. I hate drinking during a game where we're getting our asses handed to us. Drunk and depressed....never a good combo.

3rd inning man. Far from over.

tk13 04-07-2013 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9564408)
Guys, look at it like this..

At least we didn't make a run for Dickey.

He has been TURRRRRIBLE today.

I didn't want the guy in the first place. I'm not sure it was a coincidence the guy suddenly became a superstar when he moved to the NL.

Nightfyre 04-07-2013 12:27 PM

I am very happy to see the Royals respond when they get down.

MeatRock 04-07-2013 12:28 PM

Utley needs an AIDS infested bat for his AIDS infested ass.

RedDread 04-07-2013 12:28 PM

Utley just killing it. Hopefully Howard continues to suck.

Strongside 04-07-2013 12:29 PM

We need to score at least 6 more by the 9th to avoid a Greg Holland appearance.

Ceej 04-07-2013 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9564418)
I didn't want the guy in the first place. I'm not sure it was a coincidence the guy suddenly became a superstar when he moved to the NL.

I didn't either. But I seem to remember a poster or two wanting to make a play for him.

RedDread 04-07-2013 12:30 PM

Holy shit Moose...FFFF

MeatRock 04-07-2013 12:30 PM

Best thing to do is get Holland right back out there honestly.

RedDread 04-07-2013 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 9564432)
Best thing to do is get Holland right back out there honestly.

I'd give him an inning no matter what the score is today.

Strongside 04-07-2013 12:31 PM

sonofabitch.

MeatRock 04-07-2013 12:32 PM

For ****s sakes Shields. Nibble a little jesus.

RedDread 04-07-2013 12:32 PM

Hosmer gets that ball.

Strongside 04-07-2013 12:32 PM

Billy got like 8" of air there.

stonedstooge 04-07-2013 12:32 PM

I believe Hosmer would have had that one if he was in the same position Butler was

penbrook 04-07-2013 12:32 PM

Lets throw a 0-2 fastball right down the middle.

Chiefshrink 04-07-2013 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9564343)
So you pull your named closer in his second outing of the year for him? Name me one manager who would have pulled him there.

Oh yea, no one. You pull him there, he gains nothing but the idea that a manager doesn't have confidence in him. He goes on to lose, he now learns what he needs to work on. Last thing you want is a closer who feels on a short leash early in the season. If it happens a few more times, then you look at other options. But not in a closer's second outing.

I mean really, do some of you even watch baseball for an entire year?

Seriously, what manager keeps his so-called named closer in for 3 straight walks in the last inning with only a 2 run lead thus loading the bases(with no outs), ON THE ROAD, knowing(obviously he doesn't) his team has an already weak ass psyche(that is not strong enough to get past a weak start) coming off the previous year/years sitting at 1-3 knowing at this point, WINS (no matter how ugly they are) are A MUST thus a 'conservative' managerial strategy IS ESSENTIAL AT THIS POINT until the team can fly out of the nest psychologically(not to piss on their own shoes when adversity hits) on their own.

Holland needs to produce or be gone. There is no time for coddling the psyche to the point of losing when it didn't need to take place ESPECIALLY for a very weak ego team that needs all the confidence early on it can get. The Royals don't have that 'winner's moxy' ego yet to afford and endure 1 player pissing it all away just for the sake of learning what he needs to work on ? Seriously ??

Yost is not reading the psychological context of his team correctly here and 'thinks' he has the team ego that can afford to go 1-4. WRONG !!!

SPchief 04-07-2013 12:34 PM

Great pitch

Strongside 04-07-2013 12:34 PM

SITDOWNBITCH

penbrook 04-07-2013 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 9564447)
Seriously, what manager keeps his so-called named closer in for 3 straight walks in the last inning with only a 2 run lead thus loading the bases(with no outs), ON THE ROAD, knowing(obviously he doesn't) his team has an already weak ass psyche(that is not strong enough to get past a weak start) coming off the previous year/years sitting at 1-3 knowing at this point, WINS (no matter how ugly they are) are A MUST thus a 'conservative' managerial strategy IS ESSENTIAL AT THIS POINT until the team can fly out of the nest psychologically(not to piss on their own shoes when adversity hits) on their own.

Holland needs to produce or be gone. There is no time for coddling the psyche to the point of losing when it didn't need to take place ESPECIALLY for a very weak ego team that needs all the confidence early on it can get. The Royals don't have that 'winner's moxy' ego yet to afford and endure 1 player pissing it all away just for the sake of learning what he needs to work on ? Seriously ??

Yost is not reading the psychological context of his team correctly here and 'thinks' he has the team ego that can afford to go 1-4. WRONG !!!

Yost is turning into a Pioli!!

MeatRock 04-07-2013 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 9564447)
Seriously, what manager keeps his so-called named closer in for 3 straight walks in the last inning with only a 2 run lead thus loading the bases(with no outs), ON THE ROAD, knowing(obviously he doesn't) his team has an already weak ass psyche(that is not strong enough to get past a weak start) coming off the previous year/years sitting at 1-3 knowing at this point, WINS (no matter how ugly they are) are A MUST thus a 'conservative' managerial strategy IS ESSENTIAL AT THIS POINT until the team can fly out of the nest psychologically(not to piss on their own shoes when adversity hits) on their own.

Holland needs to produce or be gone. There is no time for coddling the psyche to the point of losing when it didn't need to take place ESPECIALLY for a very weak ego team that needs all the confidence early on it can get. The Royals don't have that 'winner's moxy' ego yet to afford and endure 1 player pissing it all away just for the sake of learning what he needs to work on ? Seriously ??

Yost is not reading the psychological context of his team correctly here and 'thinks' he has the team ego that can afford to go 1-4. WRONG !!!

JFC :facepalm:

Chiefshrink 04-07-2013 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9564446)
Lets throw a 0-2 fastball right down the middle.

wtf? fundamentals are always missing when you are losing.

lewdog 04-07-2013 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 9564447)
Seriously, what manager keeps his so-called named closer in for 3 straight walks in the last inning with only a 2 run lead thus loading the bases(with no outs), ON THE ROAD, knowing(obviously he doesn't) his team has an already weak ass psyche(that is not strong enough to get past a weak start) coming off the previous year/years sitting at 1-3 knowing at this point, WINS (no matter how ugly they are) are A MUST thus a 'conservative' managerial strategy IS ESSENTIAL AT THIS POINT until the team can fly out of the nest psychologically(not to piss on their own shoes when adversity hits) on their own.

Holland needs to produce or be gone. There is no time for coddling the psyche to the point of losing when it didn't need to take place ESPECIALLY for a very weak ego team that needs all the confidence early on it can get. The Royals don't have that 'winner's moxy' ego yet to afford and endure 1 player pissing it all away just for the sake of learning what he needs to work on ? Seriously ??

Yost is not reading the psychological context of his team correctly here and 'thinks' he has the team ego that can afford to go 1-4. WRONG !!!

I have no ****ing clue what stupid argument you are making because the first paragraph is all one ****ing sentence. ROFL Nice work reerun.

And since you seem to watch sooooooooooo much baseball, you probably know that we actually have two wins. We are 2-3 you dumbass. Get back to the DC, you don't know shit here.


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