A 2 win team can't find an immediate starter with the first pick in the entire draft?

Porn doesn't make itself.

Actually this is our first time him working out for us..

Geno meeting with Chiefs April 1 and April 2. Yep 2 days.

But can you imagine how good those players could be if they sat for a bit like Jake Locker? ... Wait a second...

Rapaport actually saying Chiefs are seriously considering Geno.

NO THEY CAN'T BECAUSE SOME IDIOTS ON TV SAID HE'S NOT WORTHY

Also brought up that Dorsey came from the Packers ala Favre Rodgers situation.

If the Chiefs draft Geno what grade will you give Dorsey and Reid!!

If the Chiefs draft Geno @1-1, that puts Alex in the the choke collar. One false snap and yank...

It'd be a brilliant move if you think about it...

It'd push Smith to be at his best day in and day out so theoretically we'd be getting the most out of him and if not, you bring in the young, hungry talented rookie who wants to prove himself.

Not buying it. Not even for a second. Teams don't bring a player in for a two day private work out as a smokescreen. The number of private workouts a team gets are limited iirc. If that's the case, why would they waste a valuable workout on a smokescreen.

Also, a better smoke screen would be to spread rumors that JAX is interested in Geno, thus forcing teams to have to jump them to get Geno. If the Chiefs called Philly and said, "Hey, if you don't trade with us, we're drafting Geno", then Philly would probably call their bluff.

The Smokescreen thing just doesn't add up.

You know what DOES make sense though? That the Chiefs are doing their homework on all of the top 10 players, and Geno just happens to be one of them.

That's all this workout means. That the Chiefs do in fact have an interest, would like to work him out, and then figure out where he belongs on their board.

Maybe it's #1. Maybe it's #10.....

Occasionally, I think about it. Brilliant move.

I don't agree.

I think Alex would be given the whole season. He would have to be Cassel-ish to get benched imo.

I think if they drafted Geno, then that would make the Alex Smith Trade look better. I'm sure most on this forum would disagree with me and call it a waste blah blah blah, but i don't see it that way at all.

They get like 30, though.

How many players are they going to work out for the #1 pick?

They could trade back a bit but you are still looking at the same pool of players.

They could work out some players for their #2 pick but, well.... :banghead:

Bet not. Alex Smith would be our QB for 2013 barring an injury or an 0-8 start.

I perfectly agree with you.

Millner visit is only 1 day btw.

Smith to KC is a very real possibility.

I am going to assume QB Daniel would be the BU to AS. But hey, Reid does appear to be shy sitting QB's when they suck -- if Daniel doesn't do it then Reid will look to the next guy.

Hey, I've said all along keep taking and picking up QBs until you find one. If we don't trade Albert we don't have a massive hole that needs to be filled with the first pick anyway. We can get quality players later on. If they like Geno I'm all for it. Of course if we get multiple picks or better yet dump Alex Smith on some other team even ****ing better.

You equivocate. Choke collar= short leash=Cassel-ish. If Alex has sad numbers and Chiefs are 1-3. If Genos sitting on the bench, AR would be itching to make a switch. So you really DO agree. see.

Reid didn't trade 2 high picks to bench Alex after 4 games.

Sanchez was a 1 year starter as a Jr. and should have sat.

Ok , maybe 2-6.

Sitting him wouldn't have helped.

He's a garbage QB who can't throw the ball consistently.

No, it wouldn't be a waste at all. It's smart to have a capable veteran, even at the ridiculous price we overpaid for Alex Smith. The main opposition to that trade, at least for me, is that it handcuffed us and realistically took a QB (any QB, not just Geno) off the board as a possibility for 1:1. (I still believe that)

In any case, neither of them should be "given" anything. The one who establishes himself as the best player during the offseason and camp should win the job, and Geno should see the field at some point during the year, even if it's mop-up duty. Not that an Alex Smith led team is all that likely to have enough of a lead for that.


And while I don't believe it's a smokescreen, I'm sure there is a little gamesmanship going on. It's beneficial to project the image that you're just fine staying at one and taking someone. Like perhaps Geno Smith. Sends the message that a song and a dance to move up is not going to do it.

I think Chase Daniel is going to be our backup QB going forward into the future. Reid knows that you need a capable backup in this league now. You need someone who can step in and the team doesn't miss a beat. And I still firmly believe that Alex Smith was brought in strictly as a stopgap. A QB that can come in here and win games while you find the future of this franchise. He had to over pay to get him here....but he did what he felt was necessary.

I really think that Reid and Dorsey saw this team and determined that with better QB play.....we could way better than 2-14. They've filled almost all of the holes through FA and they can fix the QB problem in one offseason. Guess what happens when you have your QBoTF on your roster? You can start drafting playmakers to get your team to the SB.

New York glitz and the media curcus didn't help. He just seems immature to me. Rex Ryan and Woody Johnson are both clowns too boot.

=why were drafting geno 1.1

Andy Reid took a option style QB in Donovan McNabb and got him playing pocket passer. The way he did that was to give McNabb good blocking and plenty of time in the pocket to run the WCO and a talented RB in Westbrook.

It'll take a season or two for Geno Smith under Reid's tutelage. For now, it would be good if Reid can get this team to start ballin again. Then when Geno is good to go, they just might have something.

100% agree..

Yes, I'm certain they are going to spend both the 1st and 2nd round picks on QBs. Especially after running the existing LT out of town, and inheriting a 2-14 team with far more holes than capable players.

1. A first and a second round pick spent on two QBs isn't overspending when your previous QB situation was ****ing horrible.

2. Albert is still on this team.

3. Shut the **** up.

1. Last year has nothing to do with this year.

2. There is already an unquestioned starter they gave up two picks to acquire, and they are not going to beg for a QB controversy immediately.

3. They've all but run Albert out of town, and with his injury history and age, he isn't worth a franchise tender anyway. Hopefully some sucker team will take him.

uh, so the new staff punted the two top players at the QB position and "they aren't going to spend top picks" getting QB's for this team? The answer is not Ricki freaking Stanzi and the video trickshot king is cool, but JFC, pros don't rely on trickshooting globetrotters for the main event. They sure as hell could spend the first two picks on some damn QB's. coach.

Your and idiot.

Hey, we get it. You don't want the Chiefs to draft Geno Smith, and you'll say anything you can think of to try to justify your position.

There is nothing wrong with spending the 1st and 2nd picks on quarterbacks. Have you already forgot what Washington gave up in order to move and draft RG3? It's been stated on this board about a billion times.

They will have to spend the 1 and 2 in 2014/15/16 to move up to get a QB after 9-7 ish. Stanzi will go backup Brady after Belichick deals Mallet.

Yes. Hopefully Andy will see the light and will draft him # 1.

So are we flying a banner April 1-2nd?

Oh the irony ROFL ROFL ROFL LMAO LMAO

Lets do it!!

April Fools?

@RapSheet: What I said on Total Access: Geno Smith will be in KC for a visit on April 1 & April 2. After Smith & Milliner visit, they set their board

Who have they worked out thus far?

I hate them doing this to us only to take Joeckel and see Geno go to Oakland while we are stuck with Alex Cassel.

If we take Joeckel there will be riots and hell.

If we take Geno there will be tears of joy.

Joeckel, Jordan, Ansah, Fisher, Floyd, Johnson. But only at there pro days.

Geno and Millner will actually be at Arrowhead. Nobody else was. Plus Millners visit is one day as Genos is 2 days. And by the way April 1 is when they start the offseason condition workout.. Coinseidence??

FYP

This fanbase is so dumb (as a whole) that most would be mad that we passed on Joeckel for Geno.

We have 3.1 mil in cap space.

How many black Qb's have won the big one?

Can Geno workout and throw to Bowe?

Yea people like Arrowheadpride and Arrowheadaddict are full of Joeckel lovers. Some on Arrowheadpride like Geno but only a few.

Once we grab Geno im sure Matt Miller and Blackmon will be asking themselves Im so ****ing stupid I should of listened to the members on Chiefsplanet.

Id take Geno and hold teams ransom

If Reid wants him too he can. I expect Bowe to be there April 1 for the workout. It will be a workout. I dont know the whole restrictions on non players throwing to NFL players so I dont know. However if he does throw to Bowe expect Geno to be the pick IMO..

OMG JIZZ

Still holding out a slimmer of hope that we take him because were in good shape to take BPA

Remember Dorsey came from the Packers ala drafting Rodgers in the first round when they had Favre. I feel like this is the same situation. All signs are pointing to Geno right now.

It's fun to think about, but there is no chance they are taking Geno at 1.

Alex Smith starts his KC tenure rather awkwardly with flashbacks to last season. Reid is a tough cookie.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...arting+caliber :titus:

I couldn't help but notice that you chose to respond to the first part of my post, but then you deleted the second part so you wouldn't have to respond to it.

I'll go ahead and tell you what the Redskins gave up. They gave up THREE first round picks and a second round pick.

Do you understand? THREE FIRST ROUND PICKS AND A SECOND ROUND PICK. And then they used a fourth round pick to draft Kirk Cousins.

How did that work out for the Redskins again? Did they make the playoffs? Do they have a bright future with a quarterback who looks like he'll be elite?

If the Chiefs wind up giving up a first round pick for Geno Smith and two second round picks for Alex Smith, I'd say they did a helluva job. They will have created one of the best quarterback situations in the NFL, and they'll have done it a hell of a lot cheaper than the Redskins did.

Geno Smith sitting behind Alex Smith for a year and some change wouldn't be a whole lot different that Colin Kaepernick sitting behind Alex Smith for a year and some change. How did that work out for the 49ers again?

If you'd quit slobbering on Luke Joeckel's knob long enough to look at what the successful NFL teams are doing, you'd understand that.

QB is the most important position on the field by far and now we've got people crying that it would be too much to invest in it? **** that. Throw as many resources as possible to get it fixed, the rest of the team around it is good enough to compete now.

I can't see them bringing Geno Smith to KC for a 2 day workout as a smokescreen.

I wonder if Clark will be there.

Remember when he said they missed Geno at the senior bowl?

Yeah I wonder what Clarks part is in the whole thing. Maybe he's put down the mandate to fix the QB position. "Get me a starter, viable backup and then draft the best QB and develope him!" We can only hope.

This.

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There were two high ranking officials from the Chiefs at Genos pro day. Reid and Dorsey were at another pro day..

Wow, awesome insight! I hadn't thought to discuss any of this until you brought it up.

oh yes i know quite the puzzling questions i know. lol. I am merely getting the input back from the fans themselves and posting the results on my site. what better way to find out then ask the chiefs fans themselves? but yes you are correct, very thought provoking lol.

For me and most of the Chiefs fans we want Geno here.

Alex Smith only has 2 years left and hell Dorsey came from GB where they praised BPA and he was there when they drafted Rodgers when they already had Favre. I feel like he will do the same thing here.

The moves in FA alone have all but ensured "win now", and will keep Lil Chiefy happily sucking on his little red and gold lollipop. With the children fully taken care of, it's time to put on the big -boy overalls, walk like a competent man out to the garden, and pluck that sweet black berry from the vine.
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The Whole Thing.
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Let's revisit an oldie but a goodie!

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2012/1...iefs-no-1-pick

I disagree. With time holding the board and in a smaller market, Sanchez could have developed in to a more consistent player.
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I dont think there would be a grade high enough for Reid Dorsey and Hunt.

Speaking of Clark Hunt he said he would be nore involved. Where is he at. I wonder if he will be at Genos pro day. Even A Smith and Bowe will be watching Geno because there offseason workouts start April 1. If Clark is there you know Geno is the pick without a doubt.

Are some people incapable of thinking outside the box? What's the biggest glaring weakness of this team? OK... We traded a second and a second/third next year for a POSSIBLE QBOTF. Have the Chiefs inked A. Smith up to a long term contract yet? Nooooo?!?!?! Then that isn't long term commitment. What we currently have is a Plan "A" in Alex Smith. Then Chase Daniels makes a current Plan "B" with a reasonably high back-up price, yet not bad considering the combined salaries of the starter and backup. Now, let's pretend that the Chiefs draft Geno #1 overall and have him going into camp battling Chase for the #2 QB spot. The combined salaries of all three QB's is still less than a premier franchise QB.

Scenario #2, Geno gets to camp, lights it up, learns the playbook quickly, and looks equal or better than Alex. Chiefs start Alex while Geno adapts to the speed of the NFL, develops chemistry with the WR's, and learns the playbook inside and out. Next season, if Geno looks to be the #1, the Chiefs trade Alex to another QB starved team and gets partial draft compensation back.

Scenario #3, (least likely)... Alex is night and day better than Geno, Chiefs QB position is FINALLY fixed, and we have a quality starter and backup for years to come similar to the Montana / Young scenario in San Fran.

So...you hate Albert, don't want the Chiefs to keep high value core players, and are against building for the future in a manner conducive to competing for championships. Got it.
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Dude, will they bring in Bowe for some workout time? JIMP
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I'll make it simple; Jokel can go straight to Hell, Alex Smith gives me limp-dick, and the Chiefs need to draft and develop Geno or Barkley for the future of this franchise.
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