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mr. tegu 02-14-2013 06:55 PM

I love that this frees up the franchise tag for Albert should they need to use it. I have been confident all along both will be back.

Hammock Parties 02-14-2013 06:59 PM

Jesus.

Quote:

I would rather have a nobody with 200% heart , than a big time player. That just wants the money blame the qb

RealSNR 02-14-2013 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCFaninSEA (Post 9403698)
Add to this
Draft De'Andre Hopkins
Draft Trufant
Sign George Wilson

=win

Who?

ShowtimeSBMVP 02-14-2013 07:37 PM

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet

More on #Chiefs: Along with Bowe, KC would also like OT Branden Albert back. They've talked with his reps, too. Yes, they can sign both.

Hammock Parties 02-14-2013 07:40 PM

kiss the walrus

ChiefMojo 02-14-2013 07:42 PM

Music to my ears... sign them both up and then it is off to the SHIP!!!!

NJChiefsFan 02-14-2013 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9403688)
Those are from Save Our Chiefs.

This fanbase needs to be tied down and waterboarded with chocolate penii.

Yeah those comments you posted are outrageous.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9403825)
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet

More on #Chiefs: Along with Bowe, KC would also like OT Branden Albert back. They've talked with his reps, too. Yes, they can sign both.

Boner engaged.

KC_Lee 02-14-2013 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9403825)
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet

More on #Chiefs: Along with Bowe, KC would also like OT Branden Albert back. They've talked with his reps, too. Yes, they can sign both.

So the Chiefs can re-sign and retain both players that were drafted and developed by the Chiefs?!?!

Does ESPN and the NFL Network know this?!?!

RealSNR 02-14-2013 07:47 PM

Sounds like Kansas City's scouts really like Joeckel, right Shawn?

WildTurkey 02-14-2013 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9403682)
I suppose it's true what they say about Dorsey. The man does his homework.

He certainly has done well with wrs in the past in Green Bay. So he can obviously spot a good one from a bad one

Sassy Squatch 02-14-2013 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9403825)
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet

More on #Chiefs: Along with Bowe, KC would also like OT Branden Albert back. They've talked with his reps, too. Yes, they can sign both.

Excellent.

Hammock Parties 02-14-2013 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9403852)
Sounds like Kansas City's scouts really like Joeckel, right Shawn?

http://cdn.niketalk.com/1/16/164d263...WGla38dwbC.gif

Hammock Parties 02-14-2013 08:02 PM

I really feel like the timing of this leak through Rapoport indicates the Chiefs completed part of the QB evaluation and felt like they found the QB they wanted.

KCrockaholic 02-14-2013 08:03 PM

Oh Noes. What will happen with Joeckel now?!!??/True fan

Hammock Parties 02-14-2013 08:05 PM

Anyone want to form a support group for AustinChief, since his bubby Jake Long will never don the red and gold now?

Cannibal 02-14-2013 08:06 PM

**** Joekel and fans that want him.

DaneMcCloud 02-14-2013 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9403874)
I really feel like the timing of this leak through Rapoport indicates the Chiefs completed part of the QB evaluation and felt like they found the QB they wanted.

Right.

Before the Combines, interviews, psych evaluation, Wonderlic and individual drills, the Chiefs have already concluded who they'll draft in 10 weeks.

:facepalm:

Hammock Parties 02-14-2013 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9403888)
Right.

Before the Combines, interviews, psych evaluation, Wonderlic and individual drills, the Chiefs have already concluded who they'll draft in 10 weeks.

:facepalm:

True.

But perhaps they determined they're definitely going QB.

BossChief 02-14-2013 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9403825)
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet

More on #Chiefs: Along with Bowe, KC would also like OT Branden Albert back. They've talked with his reps, too. Yes, they can sign both.

Nice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9403888)
Right.

Before the Combines, interviews, psych evaluation, Wonderlic and individual drills, the Chiefs have already concluded who they'll draft in 10 weeks.

:facepalm:

John Dorsey said they were doing their quarterback evaluations Thursday and Friday on NFL AM.

DaneMcCloud 02-14-2013 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9403898)
John Dorsey said they were doing their quarterback evaluations Thursday and Friday on NFL AM.


BUT THEY'VE ALREADY DECIDED!!!!!!!

Hammock Parties 02-14-2013 08:14 PM

Maybe they got a good long look at Joeckel and decided "nah."

Hence, sign here Albert.

Now let's decide which QB we like.

Hootie 02-14-2013 08:14 PM

you can tell BossChief is a Coalitioner by how big of a homer he is...

Hootie 02-14-2013 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9403906)
Maybe they got a good long look at Joeckel and decided "nah."

or maybe they realize that in a QB league the value of an elite LT or elite DL is no longer that ****ing necessary if you don't have a ****ing QB

Mr. Arrowhead 02-14-2013 08:15 PM

this douche bag needs to go away

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout

Not disagreeing with the NFLN report about Bowe and Albert, but a team saying they "want" to re-sign a player doesn't mean they will.

Hammock Parties 02-14-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 9403912)
a team saying they "want" to re-sign a player doesn't mean they will.

If the leaks are coming from the Chiefs, it's a pretty good indication a deal is imminent.

O.city 02-14-2013 08:19 PM

Of course Miller is disputing it, he's being paid by Joeckel to pimp him as the first pick.

NJChiefsFan 02-14-2013 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 9403912)
this douche bag needs to go away

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout

Not disagreeing with the NFLN report about Bowe and Albert, but a team saying they "want" to re-sign a player doesn't mean they will.

No, I love this tweet. I want him to hold out hope that his points about Albert were right. Then he can figure out how them signing Albert doesn't make him an idiot.

Hammock Parties 02-14-2013 08:21 PM

I put a jihad on Matt Miller.

Hammock Parties 02-14-2013 08:23 PM

This ****ing dumbshit.

@nfldraftscout

If the #Chiefs address WR and LT in free agency, opens things up for Star Lotulelei or reaching (really reaching) for a QB.

Hootie 02-14-2013 08:26 PM

at least if we draft Star we can get a MOTHER **** YOU JOHN DORSEY thread out of the way real quick

O.city 02-14-2013 08:27 PM

A non pass rushing 34 DE at 1 overall? Yeah, sounds like the Chiefs to me.

O.city 02-14-2013 08:29 PM

LOL Clay, Miller is making fun of you on twitter.

O.city 02-14-2013 08:30 PM

Now Miller is saying Star is as good as JJ Watt.

Hootie 02-14-2013 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9403957)
LOL Clay, Miller is making fun of you on twitter.

what's he saying?

O.city 02-14-2013 08:31 PM

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout
@bfett81 @jhelms82 Where would you select JJ Watt? You guys are so dismissive of anything but a QB. Can't wait to see draft day.

ChiefMojo 02-14-2013 08:31 PM

Star is pretty freaking good though.

milkman 02-14-2013 08:32 PM

This rumor, along with rumor about wanting to re-sign Albert, if true, could have me warming up to these guys.

Mr. Arrowhead 02-14-2013 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9403963)
Star is pretty freaking good though.

and so was glenn dorsey

-King- 02-14-2013 08:32 PM

PFT confirms it with their own sources.
Quote:

Chiefs wants to keep Dwayne Bowe
Posted by Mike Florio on February 14, 2013, 8:56 PM EST
Bowe AP

Last year, Chiefs receiver Dwayne Bowe was a free agent. His freedom was restricted by the franchise tag. In August, he opted to accept the one-year, $9.5 million offer.

This year, he’s due to become a free agent again. We’ve confirmed that the Chiefs and Bowe’s representatives currently are discussing a new deal. The Chiefs have made it clear that they want to retain Bowe, per a source with knowledge of the situation.

The Chiefs’ interest in and negotiations with Bowe were first reported by Ian Rapoport of NFL Network.

Use of the franchise tag for a second year would result in a one-year guaranteed contract of $11.4 million. It’s unclear at this point whether the Chiefs would use the tag for a second straight season.

Bowe, 28, was a first-round pick in 2007. He qualified for the Pro Bowl in 2010 with a career-high 15 touchdown receptions.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...p-dwayne-bowe/

J Diddy 02-14-2013 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9403888)
Right.

Before the Combines, interviews, psych evaluation, Wonderlic and individual drills, the Chiefs have already concluded who they'll draft in 10 weeks.

:facepalm:

They've seen the signs, they've gazed at the banners being pulled about by airplanes, they've listened to the jeers and now, finally, they opened the draft Geno thread.

Who needs scouts when you have all this talent with a keyboard.

O.city 02-14-2013 08:33 PM

A 34 non pass rushing DE at 1 overall?

Hammock Parties 02-14-2013 08:34 PM

Matt Miller just dug the hole even deeper. ****ing Star Looterleeter. LMAO

The Franchise 02-14-2013 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9403972)
A 34 non pass rushing DE at 1 overall?

Keep repeating yourself....

O.city 02-14-2013 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9403979)
Keep repeating yourself....

Sorry, but I just don't understand this logic that he's worth the pick.

keg in kc 02-14-2013 08:35 PM

We should start a rumor that Poe would've gone before Star if he was in this class.

O.city 02-14-2013 08:37 PM

If we re up Bowe and Albert and sign Chris Canty, what then?

Hammock Parties 02-14-2013 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9403988)
If we re up Bowe and Albert and sign Chris Canty, what then?

You need 2 defensive ends!

Hammock Parties 02-14-2013 08:40 PM

Seriously. ****ing LOL. How clueless is Matt Miller that he would mock Star to the Chiefs after what happened just 4 years ago?

There's literally ZERO chance that would happen.

O.city 02-14-2013 08:41 PM

From now until the draft....................I'm...............



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O.city 02-14-2013 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9404004)
Seriously. ****ing LOL. How clueless is Matt Miller that he would mock Star to the Chiefs after what happened just 4 years ago?

There's literally ZERO chance that would happen.

Or 5 years ago, or last year.


Although this regime isn't tied to the last at all, so there is that.

DaneMcCloud 02-14-2013 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9403988)
If we re up Bowe and Albert and sign Chris Canty, what then?

Dorsey would likely be released, T-Jack back on a small contract ($2-3 million per). They still need a safety opposite Berry and a true starting ILB next to DJ.

The rest could be filled through the draft.

Sassy Squatch 02-14-2013 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9404000)
You need 2 defensive ends!

Nouthooks is here to save the day. LMAO

O.city 02-14-2013 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9404012)
Dorsey would likely be released, T-Jack back on a small contract ($2-3 million per). They still need a safety opposite Berry and a true starting ILB next to DJ.

The rest could be filled through the draft.

I was meaning with the first pick. At taht point, it would almost have to be a QB.


And yeah, I know some don't agree with us, but I really would like to get a stud next to DJ and I would love to take Kevin Minter in the second. I know we need a CB, but for some reason I think that could be a fa target.

Sassy Squatch 02-14-2013 08:45 PM

What about Barnett from Buffalo as the LB pickup?

O.city 02-14-2013 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 9404024)
What about Barnett from Buffalo as the LB pickup?

Nah, I don't think he is an ILB in a 34, atleast not a good one.

DaneMcCloud 02-14-2013 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9404017)
I was meaning with the first pick. At taht point, it would almost have to be a QB.


And yeah, I know some don't agree with us, but I really would like to get a stud next to DJ and I would love to take Kevin Minter in the second. I know we need a CB, but for some reason I think that could be a fa target.

Not necessarily. They could make a move for a veteran, swap with Philly for Foles, etc. and so on.

There are MANY possibilities. There are eleven weeks before the draft and nothing can be ruled out at this point.

O.city 02-14-2013 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9404032)
Not necessarily. They could make a move for a veteran, swap with Philly for Foles, etc. and so on.

There are MANY possibilities. There are eleven weeks before the draft and nothing can be ruled out at this point.

At that point, Foles would be about the only one that would make sense. Sources are saying there isn't much interest in Alex Smith so he's likely out, other than him, I'm not sure who they'd bring in.

There are possibilities, but i'm not sure there woudl be many at that point.


And I dunno if I'd swap firsts for Foles, when he could very well be released or had for a 4 or 5 rounder.

Sorter 02-14-2013 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9404030)
Nah, I don't think he is an ILB in a 34, atleast not a good one.

That's what he played in Capers' 1-gap in GB...

Sassy Squatch 02-14-2013 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9404030)
Nah, I don't think he is an ILB in a 34, atleast not a good one.

Really? They run a hybrid defense and he was the teams leading tackler according to Bills fans up here. All ofthem are upset about that cut.

mcaj22 02-14-2013 08:52 PM

im starting to warm up to something like

pick 1 BPA
2nd round QB
+trade for Foles

may the best QB win in camp between them.

O.city 02-14-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9404057)
That's what he played in Capers' 1-gap in GB...

He could probably do it, dunno how good at it he would be. Pack don't seem to release good players very often.

DaneMcCloud 02-14-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9404043)
At that point, Foles would be about the only one that would make sense. Sources are saying there isn't much interest in Alex Smith so he's likely out, other than him, I'm not sure who they'd bring in.

There are possibilities, but i'm not sure there woudl be many at that point.


And I dunno if I'd swap firsts for Foles, when he could very well be released or had for a 4 or 5 rounder.

It all depends on what the Chiefs think of the top QB's in the draft, Foles, and available talent at #4.

Foles and Milliner versus Smith, Barkley or Wilson.

O.city 02-14-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9404063)
im starting to warm up to something like

pick 1 BPA
2nd round QB
+trade for Foles

may the best QB win in camp between them.

Then Star at 1?


And if we trade for Foles, he's starting.

mcaj22 02-14-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9404030)
Nah, I don't think he is an ILB in a 34, atleast not a good one.

he used to be exactly like Derrick Johnson

(runs away from gaps, runs around blockers, out of position) and was all about his pass coverage/speed.

hes lost his pass coverage skills and is good for padding his stats 5 to 7 yards after the RB is through the hole

DaneMcCloud 02-14-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9404063)
im starting to warm up to something like

pick 1 BPA
2nd round QB
+trade for Foles

may the best QB win in camp between them.

That's dumb.

Either you pick a QB and start him from Day One or you trade for Foles and start him from Day One.

Sorter 02-14-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9404065)
He could probably do it, dunno how good at it he would be. Pack don't seem to release good players very often.

He'd be fine for a year until we could get Skov next year. Potentially, he could play at an adequate level for 2-3 IMO.

O.city 02-14-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9404066)
It all depends on what the Chiefs think of the top QB's in the draft, Foles, and available talent at #4.

Foles and Milliner versus Smith, Barkley or Wilson.

Yeah but like I said, I don't think it would take anything close to swapping firsts to get Foles. They don't have much leverage at this point.

mcaj22 02-14-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9404067)
Then Star at 1?


And if we trade for Foles, he's starting.

if they trade for Foles they are drafting a QB anywhere between the 2nd and 4th to compete with him

they wont just give him the car keys, yea right lol. They maybe stupid, but not that stupid. They will draft and develop a QB every year, its just a matter of what round.

O.city 02-14-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9404074)
He'd be fine for a year until we could get Skov next year. Potentially, he could play at an adequate level for 2-3 IMO.

I think Minter would be an ideal fit to play next to DJ in the 34. Skov is great, but thats next year.

Hammock Parties 02-14-2013 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9404071)
That's dumb.

Either you pick a QB and start him from Day One or you trade for Foles and start him from Day One.

Was it dumb when the Packers and Giants sat Eli and Rodgers?

Stop posting, you've turned into BlackBob 2.0

DaneMcCloud 02-14-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9404075)
Yeah but like I said, I don't think it would take anything close to swapping firsts to get Foles. They don't have much leverage at this point.

Well, you swap firsts and additional picks.

I can only assume that since Philly re-signed Vick and signed Dixon, Joeckel would be their #1 guy.

Sorter 02-14-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9404082)
I think Minter would be an ideal fit to play next to DJ in the 34. Skov is great, but thats next year.

I'd like Minter, Mosely, or Skov.

mcaj22 02-14-2013 08:57 PM

Dorsey and Reid are notorious for always trying to pluck later round QBs. They will draft one every year or every other year at least while they are here.

It's like Scooter Pioli with TEs, olineman and really bad CBs. He's missed on those like every draft or every other at least

RealSNR 02-14-2013 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9404063)
im starting to warm up to something like

pick 1 BPA
2nd round QB
+trade for Foles

may the best QB win in camp between them.

In that situation your #1 pick if it's not a QB is going to be Moore or Werner.

I think that's insanely dumb. Neither of THOSE players are worth the #1 overall pick at all either. But this is your hypothetical scenario.

O.city 02-14-2013 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9404080)
if they trade for Foles they are drafting a QB anywhere between the 2nd and 4th to compete with him

they wont just give him the car keys, yea right lol. They maybe stupid, but not that stupid. They will draft and develop a QB every year, its just a matter of what round.

I just don't see them doing that. If you bring in Foles, he's your starter. They might draft a guy late to develop, but likely not early.


Everyone seems to think because the Seahawks did it, it's the norm. It's not.

Hammock Parties 02-14-2013 09:00 PM

Now he says Jockel is better than Albert.

LMAO

NJChiefsFan 02-14-2013 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9404091)
Dorsey and Reid are notorious for always trying to pluck later round QBs. They will draft one every year or every other year at least while they are here.

It's like Scooter ***** with TEs, olineman and really bad CBs. He's missed on those like every draft or every other at least

Reid also drafted a QB with his first pick when he didn't have one. Most of Dorsey and Reid's history of drafting QB's happened while they already had a starter at QB.

mcaj22 02-14-2013 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9404092)
In that situation your #1 pick if it's not a QB is going to be Moore or Werner.

I think that's insanely dumb. Neither of THOSE players are worth the #1 overall pick at all either. But this is your hypothetical scenario.

well it's not my hypothetical scenario, im not making up the Foles rumors.

but if the fact the Foles stuff comes true I would at least like to warm up to a new scenario that involves that entire situation playing out, because why else would they acquire him?

I dont personally want him, but just like anything else you have to predict how it plays out.

Just like you predict what the Chiefs will be like if they draft Geno Smith #1 and Terrance Copper still makes the team.

O.city 02-14-2013 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9404088)
Well, you swap firsts and additional picks.

I can only assume that since Philly re-signed Vick and signed Dixon, Joeckel would be their #1 guy.

Then in that case, I'd probably have to get a pretty good pick in return along with Foles.

Cause with those signings, it seems someone will be cut and it's likely to be Foles.

DaneMcCloud 02-14-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9404083)
Was it dumb when the Packers and Giants sat Eli and Rodgers?

Stop posting, you've turned into BlackBob 2.0

Oh, just shut the **** up.

YES, it was DUMB when the Giants sat Eli and Coughlin later admitted as such. They quickly released Warner as well.

Rodgers was a luxury pick for Green Bay. They had Favre under contract and a good football team that was pretty loaded.

Also, this isn't 2005.


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