While the last part is true I think Ellerbe is still on the upswing and hasn't maxed

I thought Maclin still had a year left?

we would have to trade and then extend Maclin, but I would be for it
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I'd love to have one of those wrs, but I still feel that with a new qb the ones we have a good enough.


Although we need someone to stretch the field

my concern with ellerbe would be the superbowl-bounce to his contract demands...i think we're unlikely to go after him anyways, given reid's history with lbs

if - hypothetically - our options were to address the needs at Safety and ILB with one in draft and one in FA, which would you do for which?

this FA class does seem ripe for us picking up an offensive weapon though, if Reid sees the need

Maclin isn't a free agent.

It seems fat Scott was against it, but it shouldn't take 4 offseasons to fill some spots or needs. There is no reason we can't come out of this offseason with a new S, ILB, QB, and a few DL's.

And a new CB.

Shields is a restricted free agent. Brent Grimes is available and missed the 2012 season due to a torn ACL. He is expendable in Atlanta and I would be for him. He was elite in 2011.

Ed Hartwell
Adalius Thomas
Jarret Johnson
Bart Scott
Jamie Sharper

Raven LB's that left and Never Lived Up to Their Big Contracts

IIRC, it was an achilles, but yea, I'd be willing got take a flyer on him.

Scott and Johnson weren't bad. And we don't really need Ellerbe to be a start at ILB. Just fill and cover.

Oops yeah it was an Achilles. I would prefer a taller CB to go with Flowers but would love Grimes

Well in regards to the CB, I think there will be a stud sitting there at 34.

I myself love this WR class and would prefer to go that direction rather then FA.. Hunter, Patterson, Rogers etc all have ridiculous potential

Yeah, the 2nd and 3rd round are gonna be big on DL, CB, and Wr's. Interested to see where we go.

I'm really anxious to see which way we go in FA. Dorsey comes from the Packers, who never seem to be really active in FA while Reid has always been pretty active in the FA market.

Same here. It's gonna be interesting to see what or who they target. I hope they don't choose to bargain shop, ala Pioli.


Shields would be a great pickup. Gotta say, I'm enamored with Reggie Bush too.

B-b-b-but majority of CP says that we need to start him!!! We shouldn't give up on him!

WRONG......****in shitheads.

Allen is garbage.....and Asamoah sucks at pass blocking.

Allen showed some promise, then started sucking again. He was converting to a new spot, so I would tend to give him some leniency there.

It looks like Ozzie Newsome is going to earn his salary over the next couple of months. He's got something like 13 UFA's and a handful of RFA's. This of course includes Joe Flacco, who is either going to cash in or get tagged. Either way, there might be some good players shaking loose from Baltimore.

I'd much rather put Hudson at LG and get another center.

This!

I agree. While Hudson did look good...the line immediately played better after Lilja took over.

Like you said, I'd like to see us move Hudson back to lg and get a true center.

When he played spot duty there as a rookie, he flashed some serious potential.

Hudson played what 3 games at C? I'd like to see him there a little more.

Jeff Allen sucks and Andy Reid is not going to give him a "raw development" pass at a starters role

he will bring in someone vet or draft pick that will absolutely push him and beat him out (best case).

thus Allen will be no better than 2nd string, and the free pass development scenario is moot if new blood beats him out for his spot. It just proves hes trash

For what?

The guy was an all american guard. He belongs there.

Get someone who's played center a majority of their career and make Allen a utility man.

This line is a much better line replacing Allen and having Hudson as the LG.

Without Bart Scott, the Jets would not have been in two consecutive AFC Championship Games.

And that's fine. I just want to have continuity up front either way. Put him at g and draft a c mid rounds

Hudson is coming back from a bad Lattimore-esque injury as well, at least a guard and center will need to be addressed. Albert's back problem is scary, but this is the year to sign a quality LT via FA. I'm not 100% sure Geno is worth the pick, but the improvement team-wise by just replacing Cassel greatly outweighs the impact Joeckel would bring over Albert. If Alex Smith can be obtained for a 5th, there is little to no reason to not get him, let him play for a year or two, and let Geno sit to get his feet under him similar to how Kaepernick, Rodgers, and Schaub did.

Jamie Sharper and Bart Scott were very good post Ravens and still clearly had some left in the tank production wise.

Adalius Thomas proved what a fraud the exec of the decade was and Jarret Johnson was a bum period

The ex-Ravens also brought attitude to their new teams as well, something I think this Defense was sorely lacking this year. That, and leadership. I think Bart, with his former LB coach Sutton as his DC could definitely bring some value as being an ILB, especially if he isn't forced to be the number one guy like he was in NY.

Bart Scott was never the number one guy in NY. He has fallen off a cliff, he was good for a few years there but hes a bum now

Who else did they have in NY to challenge him for the number one LB spot? And I'm not expecting a career to be reincarnated or anything, but there is worse replacements out there for Siler/Belcher and he should come decently cheap. Wouldn't hurt to have another Shaun Smith-type attitude out there at LB

really?

they have had the same #1 LBer leader since 2007

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8301/career

David Harris's stats crap all over Bart Scott in the half the years.

Jets fans are about done with both of them.

I'd be surprised if you could identify the shape of a football.

Not sure if serious. He's in Baltimore.

I think Brian Schwenke would be a good grab in the 4th. He looked pretty stout.

Lol @ writing off Allen after one year with the crappiest QB imaginable.

QB play has absolutely nothing to do if an olineman is worth a shit or not

when the 4 other guys all play very well with the same crappy QB, Jeff Allen does not get a pass

Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer

RT ‏@JanieMcCAP S Dashon Goldson on franchise tag from #49ers: "I'm not for that, I'm really not. I'd be surprised if they'd do that again."



Janie McCauley ‏@JanieMcCAP

More #49ers Goldson: "I've been in this league 6 yrs now, going on 7. I think I've done what I had to do to deserve a 2nd contract, period."

If they're planning on leaving Berry at SS.....I'd love for Goldson or Byrd to be signed to play FS.

Yup.

Bart brings no value IMO other than being a run stopper. Too old and slow.

Patriots not sure they can trust Aqib Talib on a multi-year contract
Posted by Michael David Smith on February 5, 2013, 1:42 PM EST
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Aqib Talib played well for the Patriots after they acquired him from the Buccaneers just before the trade deadline, but that doesn’t mean he’ll be in New England for long.

Comcast SportsNet’s Mike Giardi reports that the Patriots have enough concerns about Talib’s work ethic that they question whether they can trust him to stay motivated if they give him a multi-year deal with significant guaranteed money.

That’s no surprise: Talib has great talent for the cornerback position, but he always been known as a player whose character red flags make coaches leery of him. Bill Belichick won’t want to dedicate a lot of salary cap space to a player who isn’t going to buy into the Patriot way.

However, if the Patriots won’t offer Talib a big contract when he becomes a free agent next month, some other team probably will. Which means there’s a real chance that the Patriots will have given up a fourth-round draft pick just for the right to rent Talib for half a season.

Hey I know! Let's claim Titus Young AND sign Aqib Talib! And maybe we can exhume Chester McGlockton!!!

i cant believe some of you people still on this high character red flag caution bullshit

there comes a time when athletic playmaker talent surpasses all the cautions. Aqib Talib's talent cannot be ignored and is worth a contract. And the way things are today you can always load it where there is tons of ways to get out of it or make the hit less if he ends up not working

all I know is FOUR YEARS OF "GOOD CHARACTER" PLAYERS got us 3 losing terrible seasons, an awful offense, one guy driving around like its grand theft auto with guns and drugs and washing out of the league and another guy killing his family and himself

that's what "good character" got us. So uhh yeah, we might as well go for the bad character/athletic talent combo rather than the good character (but actually not)/below average/scrub talent combo we have had the last four years

good thing about Reid and Dorsey is they will take a chance on a BPA WITH TALENT regardless of character

Goldson is reportedly seeking Eric Weddle money. Five years....$40 million.

i sadly would probably do that but what do I know

Flowers
Berry
Goldson
Scurb

not bad

Pro Football Weekly ‏@ProFootballWkly

Per @MikeGarafolo, the #Lions will release DE Kyle Vanden Bosch. He had 16 sacks in the past three seasons.

He's washed up

Yep. When your HC is the coach that you had some of your best years under cuts you, it's time to hang it up.

I'd take a chance on Talib. That'd fill a big need for us.

I would too but nothing more than a 2 year contract.

Yeah obviously with his track record, I'm not saying we should throw the bank at him. He's a baller though, we should kick the tires for sure.

I'd rather take Shields

You can't have a team filled with choir boy stiffs, but character absolutely does matter. I want no part of Talib. You can't depend on him, and he is good enough nor consistent enough to allay that risk.

How about we sign Titus and Talib for the talent, and than acquire Tebow for the character? That's gotta cancel out all the negatives out right??

Legal tampering period launches on March 9
Posted by Mike Florio on February 5, 2013, 4:12 PM EST
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For the NFL, the ball drops at 345 Park Avenue on Tuesday, March 12, at 4:00 p.m. That’s when the 2013 league year begins.

This year, the clock strikes twelve — sort of — three days earlier.

From Saturday, March 9 through Monday, March 11, teams will be allowed to negotiate with looming free agents, by communicating directly with their agents.

Based on a calendar of key 2013 dates the NFL has circulated, the negotiating window apparently closes at midnight ET on Tuesday. Then, 16 hours later, contracts can be negotiated and signed.

What it means is that, starting at midnight on Saturday the 9th, reports will surface of agreements in principle. Technically, they’ll be unenforceable. And it’s possible that there will be some double dealing and reneging and other intrigue, with reports of agreements with one team leaked in order to push other teams to getting deals done.

Regardless, the real negotiations will begin at or about the Scouting Combine later this month. That’s when the illegal tampering always begins, and everyone does it.

And they’ll continue to do it unless and until some unlucky team gets caught and receives the bounty treatment, absorbing a penalty so significant that it scares everyone else straight.

At least for a little while

Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo

Surprising move here, I think: Giants cut LB Michael Boley today.

I would sign him. Put him beside DJ

He's a 31 year old LB who got benched in NY.

Four years of service is the dividing line for the players being released
Posted by Mike Florio on February 5, 2013, 6:06 PM EST
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Now that the offseason finally has begun and rosters have unlocked and players can be released, there’s an important distinction that becomes relevant for the first time since late October.

Any player who is released with less than four years of service must pass through waivers, with his current contract eligible to be claimed by any other team. Any player who is released with four or more years of service becomes an unrestricted free agent immediately, free to sign with any other team at any time.

For example, Lions receiver Titus Young went through waivers, and he was claimed by the Rams. Lions defensive end Kyle Vanden Bosch, in contrast, will become a free agent. And he can now sign with the Rams, or anyone else he chooses to sign with.

As of the trade deadline, all players who are released must go through waivers, regardless of their years of experience.