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TRR 01-06-2013 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9288226)
McNabb was easily the most talented, but he was also a dumb shit.

He wasn't ready to start because he needed at least that first season to even begin to digest the complexities of an NFL playbook.

He didn't start because Reid didn't think the team around him was set up to succeed. Regardless of the QB.
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hometeam 01-06-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 9288228)
Care to tell me how Matt Flynn is worse than Doug Peterson as your starter for a year?

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Never watched Doug Peterson. That also has no bearing on whether we should try and trade for Flynn or not.

Besides that, we don't know if Matt Flynn can even play. He played one game against a bad team, with a super bowl winning team supporting him. So? In what universe is giving up something to get this guy a good idea?

milkman 01-06-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 9288237)
He didn't start because Reid didn't think the team around him was set up to succeed. Regardless of the QB.
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And, of course, if the coach tells you something, it's always true.

TRR 01-06-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9288248)
And, of course, if the coach tells you something, it's always true.

What does that say about Reid drafting a "dumb as shit" QB in the Top 5 then? If he isn't telling the truth...
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Rugby Thompson 01-06-2013 01:41 PM

i hate these threads...REID IS NOT GOING TO BRING IN A FLYNN OR A VICK, JESUS CHRIST.

DaKCMan AP 01-06-2013 01:43 PM

No. Anyone who think Flynn is good is a ****ing idiot.

Rugby Thompson 01-06-2013 01:45 PM

FLYNN IS ANOTHER CASSEL, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS FLYNN HAS PLAYED LIKE WHAT, 14 LESS GAMES THEN CASSEL.

SERIOUSLY, EVERYONE ACTS SO OPTIMISTIC ON THIS BOARD SINCE WE HAVE REID BUT THEN YOU WANNA BRING IN ALEX SMITH, VICK OR FLYNN AS OUR QB? IT WOULD BE A TOTAL FAIL.

Rugby Thompson 01-06-2013 01:45 PM

WE'RE THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS NOT THE KANSAS CITY EAGLES

Pasta Little Brioni 01-06-2013 01:46 PM

After everything that this franchise has gone through and people still want leftovers like Flynn and A. Smith....****

Easy 6 01-06-2013 01:47 PM

Put me down for a "NO"

Rugby Thompson 01-06-2013 01:49 PM

So because Dorsey worked with the packers, he should bring in Flynn?

It's the same ****inggg deal with Pioli and Cassel. Same exact situation, the fans on this board are ****ing stupid and the talks of michael vick piss me off even more.

ChiTown 01-06-2013 01:51 PM

Can we just draft and develop our our QB, please. Thanks.

DaneMcCloud 01-06-2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9287732)
Matt Moore sucks worse than Flynn!

Bullshit.

You're ****ing dumb.

DaneMcCloud 01-06-2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 9287744)
I'd rather keep Quinn or Stanzi

:facepalm:

More reeruned bullshit.

JFC.

DaneMcCloud 01-06-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9287803)
Kolb isn't gonna be cut from Arizona. He played pretty well last year...and Bidwell said he isn't ready to give up on him yet.

I wouldn't trade for him, either.

Just let Reid draft 2.

Yep. The Cards were 4-0 under Kolb and he played pretty well. I'm still shocked that Whiz was fired.

The Chiefs need to draft two QB's in this draft, one in the first and one in the fourth. Bring in a guy like Matt Moore as the veteran backup.

Ricky Stanzi can go play in the AF2. Quinn needs to retire. I can't believe that anyone could be worse than Matt Cassel but Quinn is actually worse.

Easy 6 01-06-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9288382)
The Chiefs need to draft two QB's in this draft, one in the first and one in the fourth.

THIS

Rams Fan 01-06-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9288049)
He was a 7th round pick.

He made the team because other than Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers, they had no other QBs.

After sitting on the bench for 5 years, he had one good game against a crappy defense.

He is a scrub.

Nothing more, nothing less.

They drafted him the same year as Brohm, who went in the 2nd. Brohm was complete shit, while Flynn less shitty.

NJChiefsFan 01-06-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9287691)
Again I hear crying but no options are being given out...

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9287711)
No I gave my option, now I want others options. I was waiting for someone to cry about looking up a f**king list (it isn't pretty)... I've looked at the list and Flynn was my option at a reasonable price. Again what is others back-up QB option?

What exactly is your definition of a reasonable price? Guy hasn't proven anything yet and we are going to trade for him an take on the contract SEA gave him? How is that a reasonable price? And your argument is nothing better has been suggested? That doesn't justify this move.

milkman 01-06-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 9288322)
What does that say about Reid drafting a "dumb as shit" QB in the Top 5 then? If he isn't telling the truth...
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It can say that Reid was determined to build around a QB, and he felt confident that he could teach McNabb to play the position in time.

It worked to an extent, though I have always argued that McNabb is/was over rated, specifically because he wasn't all that bright.

NJChiefsFan 01-06-2013 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9288382)
Yep. The Cards were 4-0 under Kolb and he played pretty well. I'm still shocked that Whiz was fired.

The Chiefs need to draft two QB's in this draft, one in the first and one in the fourth. Bring in a guy like Matt Moore as the veteran backup.

There are some decent options to be had in the 3rd or 4th round. Manuel, Dysert, Murray, or Boyd. You figure a few will be hanging around in that area. With the comp pick we should get from Carr we could use that for a QB at the end of the 3rd and still have our 4th pick for something else.

milkman 01-06-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 9288395)
They drafted him the same year as Brohm, who went in the 2nd. Brohm was complete shit, while Flynn less shitty.

Brohm is exactly what I was talking about.

He sucked, so other than Rodgers and Farvre, they had no other QB.

I can remember Peter King pimping Brohm on the Colin Cowherd show when he was set to be drafted.

It was the one time I wanted to call and tell someone they were a ****ing idiot.

DaKCMan AP 01-06-2013 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 9288412)
There are some decent options to be had in the 3rd or 4th round. Manuel, Dysert, Murray, or Boyd. You figure a few will be hanging around in that area. With the comp pick we should get from Carr we could use that for a QB at the end of the 3rd and still have our 4th pick for something else.

EJ Manuel is not a decent option. He's terrible.

Rams Fan 01-06-2013 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9288416)
Brohm is exactly what I was talking about.

He sucked, so other than Rodgers and Farvre, they had no other QB.

I can remember Peter King pimping Brohm on the Colin Cowherd show when he was set to be drafted.

It was the one time I wanted to call and tell someone they were a ****ing idiot.

Flynn also probably made it since Favre went to the Jets, which left the Packers with 2 QBs other than Flynn(Rodgers, Brohm).

Molitoth 01-06-2013 02:16 PM

To give up draft picks and take on that salary for a guy who was expendable to 2 teams (let alone a rookie) and very little NFL game day experience is stupider than the move to get cassel.

He'll no to Flynn.

He'll yes to Geno.

jd1020 01-06-2013 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9288427)
EJ Manuel is not a decent option. He's terrible.

I think you have a flawed definition of terrible.

DaKCMan AP 01-06-2013 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9288437)
I think you have a flawed definition of terrible.

Go watch FSU highlights. Most of his completions are very short passes. He's inaccurate and doesn't even throw that great of a deep ball. I wouldn't draft him.

Chiefshrink 01-06-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9287677)
Matt Flynn isn't a veteran backup. He's essentially an unproven rookie that we'd have to trade picks to get.

Matt Flynn and Kirk Cousins are not options. AT ALL.

This.

Matt Flynn has one big game. Matt Cassell had 11 wins. Flynn would be an even bigger risk than Cassel.

Do not want the potential for this situation again.

How great would it have been had we still had Orton ? But then we probably would not have the first pick either:shake:

jd1020 01-06-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9288440)
Go watch FSU highlights. Most of his completions are very short passes. He's inaccurate and doesn't even throw that great of a deep ball. I wouldn't draft him.

Who needs highlights?

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2v8OOY7AHRE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Pretty god awful 40 yard throw for a TD at 6:09... close your eyes!

If you wouldn't draft a kid like him with the 3rd round comp pick or 4th round pick, especially with Reid, then I'm sorry, your and idiot.

DaKCMan AP 01-06-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9288456)
Who needs highlights?

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2v8OOY7AHRE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Pretty god awful 40 yard throw for a TD at 6:09... close your eyes!

If you wouldn't draft a kid like him with the 3rd round comp pick or 4th round pick, especially with Reid, then I'm sorry, your and idiot.

Not impressed. Mostly a bunch of screens and <10yd passes. He had a few nice deep throws (including the TD you pointed out). This was his best game all year. Go watch his game against Florida or NC State.

jd1020 01-06-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9288488)
Not impressed. Mostly a bunch of screens and <10yd passes. He had a few nice deep throws (including the TD you pointed out). This was his best game all year. Go watch his game against Florida or NC State.

I'm suppose to ignore his best and focus on his worst? Sorry, I'm not playing that game with a ****ing 3-4 round pick.

DaKCMan AP 01-06-2013 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9288505)
I'm suppose to ignore his best and focus on his worst? Sorry, I'm not playing that game with a ****ing 3-4 round pick.

No. You look at a sample across his entire career at FSU you ****ing moron. I've seen a lot of him and he ****ing blows. Playing agains the weak ass ACC, with the most talented roster in the ACC, he should have much better production. I hope KC doesn't waste a draft pick - any draft pick - on this kid.

chefsos 01-06-2013 02:43 PM

I don't know, here's the way I see Flynn. One year ago he'd have cost a lot of money. One year later, after another year on the bench, he's going to cost the money AND a draft pick or two? No. That ****in' ship has sailed.

The Franchise 01-06-2013 02:49 PM

If Bray is there in the 3rd.....take him. If not.....I'd got Dysert in the 4th.

Archie Bunker 01-06-2013 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9288549)
If Bray is there in the 3rd.....take him. If not.....I'd got Dysert in the 4th.

Dysert is probably my favorite mid rd prospect. Love to have him as our Cousins type pick

FlaChief58 01-06-2013 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9288247)
Never watched Doug Peterson. That also has no bearing on whether we should try and trade for Flynn or not.

Besides that, we don't know if Matt Flynn can even play. He played one game against a bad team, with a super bowl winning team supporting him. So? In what universe is giving up something to get this guy a good idea?

It's just crazy enough to work / Scott Pioli

DaKCMan AP 01-06-2013 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9288549)
If Bray is there in the 3rd.....take him. If not.....I'd got Dysert in the 4th.

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Originally Posted by Woodrow Call (Post 9288756)
Dysert is probably my favorite mid rd prospect. Love to have him as our Cousins type pick

I'm impressed with Dysert.

DaKCMan AP 01-06-2013 04:09 PM

Additionally, not impressed with Ryan Nassib. Let Marrone take him to Buffalo.

RealSNR 01-06-2013 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9288877)
Additionally, not impressed with Ryan Nassib. Let Marrone take him to Buffalo.

I need to watch Nassib a bit more before I make a call on him. Thus far I'm unimpressed. I probably just need to watch the right game to see what his potential is

DaneMcCloud 01-06-2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9288819)
I'm impressed with Dysert.

He and Stanzi can share hair products with each other as well.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-06-2013 04:51 PM

****. OFF.

DaneMcCloud 01-06-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9289123)
****. OFF.

LMAO

Mother****erJones 01-06-2013 04:55 PM

Bullshit

KCinNY 01-06-2013 08:18 PM

I just don't get it...this fanbase and its perverse desire to keep overpaying for other team's backups.

Jesus...draft Geno 1st, draft another QB in the mid to late rounds...pick up one or two unspectacular 30-something vets on the cheap and see what happens in camp.

slimdagreat 01-06-2013 08:21 PM

As an LSU fan I've seen a lot of Matt Flynn and honestly as a pro he might be the 2nd coming of Matt Cassel

BigCatDaddy 01-07-2013 08:27 AM

If Wilson keeps wanting to play fullback on running plays Seattle might need Flynn themselves pretty quick.

htismaqe 01-07-2013 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by slimdagreat (Post 9290218)
As an LSU fan I've seen a lot of Matt Flynn and honestly as a pro he might be the 2nd coming of Matt Cassel

http://i.imgur.com/KrZEk.gif

alpha_omega 01-07-2013 09:31 AM

Negative ghostrider.

ToxSocks 01-07-2013 10:34 AM

Ugh. Its gonna be an offseason of terrible ideas. I can see it now.

htismaqe 01-07-2013 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9291600)
Ugh. Its gonna be an offseason of terrible ideas. I can see it now.

Yip.

DaKCMan AP 01-21-2013 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 9288412)
There are some decent options to be had in the 3rd or 4th round. Manuel, Dysert, Murray, or Boyd. You figure a few will be hanging around in that area. With the comp pick we should get from Carr we could use that for a QB at the end of the 3rd and still have our 4th pick for something else.

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9288427)
EJ Manuel is not a decent option. He's terrible.

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9288437)
I think you have a flawed definition of terrible.

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9288440)
Go watch FSU highlights. Most of his completions are very short passes. He's inaccurate and doesn't even throw that great of a deep ball. I wouldn't draft him.

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9288456)
Who needs highlights?

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2v8OOY7AHRE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Pretty god awful 40 yard throw for a TD at 6:09... close your eyes!

If you wouldn't draft a kid like him with the 3rd round comp pick or 4th round pick, especially with Reid, then I'm sorry, your and idiot.

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9288488)
Not impressed. Mostly a bunch of screens and <10yd passes. He had a few nice deep throws (including the TD you pointed out). This was his best game all year. Go watch his game against Florida or NC State.

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9288505)
I'm suppose to ignore his best and focus on his worst? Sorry, I'm not playing that game with a ****ing 3-4 round pick.

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9288520)
No. You look at a sample across his entire career at FSU you ****ing moron. I've seen a lot of him and he ****ing blows. Playing agains the weak ass ACC, with the most talented roster in the ACC, he should have much better production. I hope KC doesn't waste a draft pick - any draft pick - on this kid.


@Schottey: EJ Manuel 6043 237...high ranking NFL personnel guy just said "not a QB, but someone will try to make him 1" >>Been sayin this


DaKCMan_AP is Awesome.

jd1020 & EJ Manuel are not.


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