Only 50.1 percent actually, but that's still a sizable amount.

So you put Bowe in the same company as Calvin and Andre Johnson...?

Yeah I pulled that number out of my ass.

Some fans have lost their ****ing minds. They don't want to draft a QB because "this qB class sucks" and they only say that because they heard it on t.v. Then, it's "Bowe sucks, I mean he's the best we've had in a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time, but he's not the best in the world, so he's horrible.

WTF?

I said bowe is good...not elite.

He is overrated on this board.

That's all.

Who cares if Bowe measures up to Fitz or Johnson. Our team is in the toilet and we are going to have to over pay right now for free agents. We have more cap room then we know what to do with so why not spend some of it on our home grown talent. We all want a rookie QB but then want to let go of our most talented reciever. :banghead: There is no excuse in not signing Bowe long term.

How is he overrated if he is putting up identical numbers as Fitz right now?

He's only 50 career receptions behind CJ.

We KNOW what CJ and Fitz can do with talented QBs.

Bowe has shown flashes of elite play with shitty QBs.

Yards or points?

You'd think that a fanbase that hasn't seen a playoff win in 2 decades would be a little less picky...

Good receivers grow on trees, right?

Bowe is just a guy/ CP reeruns

This.

Guys like Baldwin grow on trees...

AIDS trees...

I think if he had Matt stafford or Schaub throwing to him instead of those guys you wouldn't be able to tell much of a difference.

He doesn't have the speed of either of those guys but he can fight for the ball and run routes every bit as good as they can.

Schaub is horrible, when it comes to nationally staged big games, he crumbles and chokes, he can't elevate his team and take them to a next level. Besides Andre Johnson and Owen Daniels, who do they really have to throw too?

Bowe is going to end up on Dallas though, KC has become a farm team for the cowboys. Clark loves Dallas more then KC and bows down to them, I'm still pissed at Carr going there. Mark my words, if we don't resign him, he's gone to Dallas. I'm pretty sure Miles Austin becomes a free agent and I've read reports that have said they'll either go after Bowe or Jennings.

I want to hear more from you about these stats Baldwin put up with Weiss.

Why is this guy in the red?

This is good stuff.

He is a noob.

I don't know that Dallas has the cap space.

Farm team? Carr signing there makes them the Chief's farm team?

I guess Carr and Orton??

Idk, makes sense that Bowe would go to Dallas, or New Orleans. I could see either.

Hard to envision a scenario that keeps him in KC.

I'll bet he's already packing his bags for Louisiana, put his house on the market, etc.

Orton? He was with the Chiefs for all of 5 weeks.

The scenario is that a competent GM will see the need to sign Bowe to a longterm deal.

Or they can just tag him again.

:thumb:

Then just let him walk next offseason?

If he is unwilling to sign a longterm deal this offseason you better tag and trade him this year.

I was just trying to list former Chiefs playing for Dallas...

Yeah...and if they tag him again he'll just hold out again, and be disgruntled again.

The whole thing seems pretty futile at this point.

right.

futile.

Bowe will not be a Chief next year...and it's time we all get used to it now.

His last game as a Chief was a 2 catch, 70-yard performance in a blowout loss in Cleveland that he left early on due to broken ribs.

Fitting epitaph for his time with KC.

He wasn't 'holding out'. He missed TC because the rules of the Franchise Tag allow for that.

I don't know about the 'disgruntled' part. Don't know the guy.

If he's tagged again, he'll get 11M+. $20M in 2 seasons in pretty good. I doubt he'll be disgruntled.

Fitting?

Unwilling? The only party 'unwilling' in this deal was peeholey.

What are you doing out of your thread? Go away.

Bowe has had so many veriables to help him since his time here.


1) Long list of franchise quality quarterbacks
2) Stable of pro-bowl level receivers to take the heat off of him.
3) Some highly creative offensive play calling
4) Vince Lombardi level coaching

Bottom line is he is on a realy bad team and is stil getting it done.

F*** you Pioli

it's clearly different now. The guy just broke his ribs, he is definitely now looking for LONG TERM security, especially having a down year, and getting injured on top of it. He is definitely holding out because hes disgruntled against the idiot GM that wont pay him not the Chiefs as a whole.

But the guys market dropped because of an awful season + injury. Essentially Pioli cockblocked him out of a lot of money, and the guy still doesnt get any long term security. I dont think he will be happy on another 1 year deal is what I am saying, especially coming off injury.

Bowe out for the season and the Chiefs refuse to activate Breaston. These assclowns give me a headache.

F*** You Pioli

JFC. STFU dumbass

What MJD did is Holding Out.

The Tag rules allow players to miss TC.

He could have skipped all of pre-season, but he didn't.

Hopefully, we get a solid GM in here and he recognizes Bowe's value.

Agree on all counts.

And I would argue he wasn't JUST "getting it done".

He led the league in TDs 2 years ago, with MATT ****ING CASSEL AT QB.

Dallas will do whatever it takes to get the right cap room to sign a big name WR especially dwayne bowe.

Breaston is nothing special, he's serviceable but activating him isn't going to make much of a difference.

Yeah that he was a play maker. The only WR playmaker we have had in.......what seems like forever.

I keep thinking out scenarios..

1. Stays with KC, drafts Geno, lights it up next year
2. Pulls a Carr 2.0, signs with Dallas
3. Goes to ****ing New England to win a bowl for a lesser price

I doubt it but I haven't really looked into their cap situation. I do know they have a possible slot guy who they love, and Austin has a high-guaranteed saary IIRC.

Personally, when we get a new GM, I'd expect us to be the front runners for Bowe.

I think this is more likely than the 2nd option, IMO.

I could see them kicking Welker to the curb and getting Bowe, that's the only reason why. I don't see them keeping Welker and adding Bowe, it just wouldn't be fair.

I'd agree if Edelman had been able to stay healthy throughout the season. I think they resign Welker, and add another receiver. Stallworth and Branch are gone after this year and Slater is their version of Copper.

Bowe would dominate in Welkers role on the Patriots

I don't think Bowe has ever gotten many snaps inside.

he runs all the same inside routes though even though Welkers inside and Bowes outside.

Hes not afraid to work over the middle, same as Welker.

They wouldnt sign him to play Brandon Lloyd's role or one of the TEs spots. The only vacancy for the Patriots would be the Welker/Edelman role

they essentially only use 1 outside WR. He could play the Aaron Hernandez spot also, those are exactly the routes Bowe is made for

The way Lloyd's contract is structured IIRC, Bowe could be a viable replacement.

Doesn't this belong in the "Good News for the Future" thread?

Why?? It's true.

He'll go somewhere else and be GREAT.

He'll never acheive greatness in KC.

It's just not going to happen here for him.

That's called 'reality'.

Lloyd is pretty good too in his own right lol

I agree. I'm just saying, it wouldn't surprise me to see them lower Lloyd on DC, restructure, or release him to upgrade.

Seems very Belichick-like to me.

lloyd is good but i'd take bowe over him any day

Didn't Bowe say he wanted to stay in KC and win a bowl?

He did. That means nothing to me. If he gets low-balled, he's out.

I'm going to be pissed if he goes to Miami or Dallas, jesus christ. This franchise is so cursed.

Miami might be a probable destination if he leaves. Detroit if they cut Titus and feel like Burelson is done and think Bowe's an upgrade over anything their getting in the draft/don't want to waste time developing a pick because they (Schwartz) might be in a win-now situation.

Detroit doesn't deserve him, does Washington have cap room 'cause I could really see that happening. I just want him to stay on KC, is that too much to ask?

Once we get a new GM, even then I doubt them re-signing him. Like what is Bowe really looking for? Is it a fitzgerald type of contract, I just don't understand, he's worth to me 50 mill, he's a key star and can ball but I can't help but think that this season ****ed with him mentally & physically which is why I see not only Bowe gone, but Albert and Dorsey.

Washington has the cap and if not they will make the cap

good god that would be.sweet if rg3 was throwing bombs to bowe

It'd be sweet but I'd be pissed as hell, RG3 should be on the chiefs not the deadskins

I want bowe to retire a chief but im just keeping my hopes down like I should being a chiefs fan

i can't help it, i just want the off season to come and free agency to begin.

We don't need him.. we have Baldwin.

And Wylie and Newsome and McCluster and Copper. This offense is a machine without Bowe. He drops too many passes.

are there still people on here that give Baldwin a free pass? Protect him cause of the coaching and QB? Or do they finally realize how awful these Pioli players are and how much we need the Bowes, Charles, etc of the team

THANK YOU BOWE

YOU ARE AWESOME