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LMAO

He's a leader!

Hi ho! Hi ho! It's off to neg Knowmo!

*whistling*

Or Luck and RG3

I love this class though.

Didn't Peter King say Peyton Manning was washed up and KC would win the AFCW?

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I hate anyone and everyone that is saying the QB are not elite this year as a warning.

For the last mother****ing time...

1. If mother****ers were good at figuring out who the **** in college football is going to be an elite QB, Ryan Leaf wouldn't have been drafted, Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees would have gone #1 overall, Joe Montana wouldn't have dropped to the third round and Tom Brady wouldn't be a Patriot. SHUT THE MOTHER **** UP.

2. Worst case scenario...the ABSOLUTE WORST... is that you draft a QB and he busts. You are drafting another QB again a couple years later.

3. BEST case scenario is that everyone backs off the QBs this year, we trade down to #10, picking up extra picks, STILL get our QB, and he's great.

4. What the **** makes a QB elite, anyway? Tell me. You tell me right now the difference between an RG3 and a Tyler Wilson or Geno Smith. What is it? Intelligence? Because Peyton Manning isn't doing physics in his spare time. Then what? Arm strength? **** you, Geno Smith has great arm strength and Kyle Boller is a human turd. Okay... the offense they play in? Right, because RG3 was running the Giants offense at ****ing Baylor. Accuracy? Try again. Production? Win Loss?

The fact is, people are ****ing morons about QBs. If they weren't, then QB would be the EASIEST position to draft instead of the hardest.

If that's too much for you, then get the **** out. Let the big boys make the hard decisions.

Geno Smith, WHEN YOU ****ING WATCH HIM, has talent as a pocket passing QB. His passes look fantastic, they arrive on time and in place and have enough velocity that pro DBs will not be able to close on them despite being out of position.

Is he the greatest QB to ever live? No. Is he the best QB to be drafted in the last 5 years? Probably not. And to go further, there will probably be ANOTHER QB in the next 5 years who is better. Who gives a shit? We need a talented QB to lead this team and the ONLY way to get one right now is through the draft. The best odds at getting one in the draft is in the first round.

DO YOU ****ING UNDERSTAND THAT?

WE ARE DRAFTING A QUARTERBACK AND ANYONE WHO BITCHES ABOUT IT CAN SUCK SHIT OUT OF A MULE'S ASSHOLE.
God I hate you people sometimes.

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Could you please elaborate, I'm not quite sure what you mean. :D

I agree btw.

He actually predicted Denver would play the Packers in the Super Bowl and that Manning would win league MVP.

So he was smoking something after all.

He predicted both.

WTF is this shit?

Is this Pioli propaganda so we can stick with Cassel? I'm very skeptical that Geno Smith, Matt Barkley, Tyler Wilson and Tyler Bray all aren't good prospects for a top pick.

this times a kajillion billion multipled by a trillion

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Pathetic troll attempt of epic proportion. Neg bomb.

Good.

When our new HC comes in i hope he drafts a dominant lineman. That;s how the best teams are built, from the inside out.

I'm on board with that one...

BPA

Good. Let them sell that line of shit. Maybe it will lower the stock a little so we can appeal to Clark's cheap-assed side.

You need a solid QB.

Looks to me that the best teams have the best QBs.

Nope. Lies.

Amazingly enough it was Johnson who was penalized.

LOL

THAT'S IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is what this team lacks, a stud SEC defensive player. One more and we are SB champs.

Do you mean the OP?

KnowMo.

Go back to your cave.

Trollogladyte.

Draft one in each of the first 2 rounds. No, I'm not kidding.

Stupid

I honestly would not be opposed to going Smith in the first and EJ Manuel or Tyler Bray in the 2nd (though I don't think Bray will come out without a 1st round grade). I would even consider Logan Thomas there, though I think that will likely be far higher than necessary and he could be had in the 3rd.

I'd definitely take Landry Jones in the 3rd as well.

The Chiefs need to blow their entire QB situation to hell and gone. They need at least 2 new ones in here and I don't care if that requires 2 high value picks. If a guy like Jones has as much as one or two decent games, he'd be worth more than the 3rd rounder you spent on him in a season or two.

I don't think Bray enters this draft.

Dude, come on. The Chiefs aren't investing their top two picks in QB's come 2013. This team has FAR too many other needs including Strong Safety, Rush Backer, ILB, Tight End and most likely WR.

I appreciate the enthusiasm but that'll never happen. Plus, a new coaching staff will have their hands full with ONE rookie QB, let alone two or three.

I'm fine with Geno and Landry Jones in the 4th or something like that.

But Christ. Find a veteran to fill out the rest of the QB squad. It's totally unnecessary to turn to draft all these QBs.

Teams with with a franchise QB. Not franchise QBs

We should make a daring push to acquire Gradkowski or Campbell.

QB Derek Anderson Carolina Panthers
QB Charlie Batch Pittsburgh Steelers
QB Jason Campbell Chicago Bears
QB Chase Daniel New Orleans Saints
QB Trent Edwards Philadelphia Eagles
QB Joe Flacco Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
QB Bruce Gradkowski Cincinnati Bengals
QB Rex Grossman Washington Redskins
QB Tarvaris Jackson Buffalo Bills
QB Byron Leftwich Pittsburgh Steelers


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/featu...#ixzz2B6LX9ZdA

I'm not impressed by any of them either. ( scouts)

This is true.

What if you could deal a 2nd, move back a bit and pick up an extra 3rd. Would you not grab Jones or Thomas in the 3rd round at that point?

I firmly believe that our new GM & HC will not **** this up & will draft the best available QB with our #1 overall pick who will be leaps and bounds better than anything currently on our roster.


Enjoy your stroll to the playoffs this year. 2013 wont be so easy

I'm not a fan of Landry Jones and would be disappointed if the Chiefs drafted him before the 5th round. I think he's much like Stanzi at this point.

Logan Thomas is an intriguing prospect but I think the ACC is so weak that it's tough to determine how long it would take to mold him into an NFL QB. He's a guy I'll need to see in a bowl game this year and after the Combines before making a determination.

So if a QB you liked slipped to the third, would we have to have acquired an additional 3rd rounder to take him? Would you take him with our only 3rd? Or would you still prefer to avoid having 2 rookie QBs on the roster even if we did get another one?

I suppose it would depend in large part on what's available, but I think a backup QB should really be a consideration there.

There are so many factors involved. Did the Chiefs address need positions in Free Agency? Is there an immediate starter at a position like ILB, Strong Safety, WR or TE available?

This draft is "supposedly" the deepest at rush backer. If there was a guy like Houston in the third, I think I'd take him before a developmental QB, especially if I have one on the roster.

It's a tough question to answer at this stage. I just hope they draft a QB with the 1st round pick.

No way Baltimore does not sign Flacco.

Our defense may also go back to the 4-3. so its gonna be interesting. IF they do that, we wont need a ILB. We would need more then likely an outside linebacker if they move hali to DE.

Next year right now is a huge question mark.

I really hope they don't go back to the 4-3. I hope they run the 1 gap 3-4.

Don't forget that we WILL. Be getting an extra third rounder for losing Brandon Carr and we should get at least 2 other comp picks as well.

Can't trade comp picks, but I'm saying that even if we move our original third for a second quarterback...it's not like we won't be able to acquire more talent.

Also, just cutting Cassel and Jackson frees up over 20 million that can be spent in free agency. No way a new GM keeps those 2 at their price tags.

I know that Routt sucks ass but I'm not so sure the Chiefs will get a 3rd for Carr. Hope, but uncertain.

And then you woke up from the dream?

Routt has NOTHING to do with it. it's all about the +\- count of qualifying free agents lost and signed.

A qualifying free agent is a player that contract runs out and signs elsewhere. Routt was cut, as were Winston and Boss.

After you are up in that count (lost more than u signed) it all depends on amount they signed for and playing time.

Carr will get us a third. Without question.

Cool. I had completely forgotten the rules.

Same shit as every year. QBs lose some games and suddenly the scouts don't like them anymore. Then we'll have the combine and suddenly they'll be in love with them again.

This.

Really getting annoyed by truefan-esque acquaintances who hate the 3-4 based on RAC's version of it. The 3-4 run by Dallas, Houston, SF among others is vastly different from the scheme run by the Chiefs.

It has nothing at all to do with the true fan, it all has to do with the kind of GM and Coach this team hires next.

My point was. NO ONE KNOWS what is gonna happen and if he is a 3-4 or a 4-3 coach. There is ALOT of question marks when the offseason comes.

Personally, i dont care what the team runs as long as it shows results. something this team really hasnt had in a long long time. Well consistent results.

Fascinating... I didn't realize that if the acquired free agent were cut that it didn't count towards the +/-

Thanks for the info.

You're a total bitch, but you're right about this.

No, she is not.

Scouts: Not impressed with Denver's performance against actual teams this year

The defensive scheme, draft picks, free agents and returning players will all be determined by who ever is running the franchise. It won't be the same people as this year so any number of things could happen. Who ever is running the show will give us "he fits our scheme" speeches letting us know that this QB or that is better for their "system". Anything and everything should happen between now and next September. If nothing else it will be interesting.

No a bitch, or about this?

:)

Why all this commotion about drafting a QB? We need depth at guard and a few more 4-3 defensive tackles to plug in at the 5 technique. Plus, we need more hybrid 3rd-down RB/Slot Receivers-- championship teams can never have too many of them. Just be patient, and in a few years, some has-been like Michael Vick or Tony Romo will be available and we'll finally have some good competition for Matt.

Regards, S.P.

Tough break if true that none of these guys are any good (unlikely).

A team has 2 choices. Take the best guy they can get with the pick they have, or do everything it takes to get the guy they want in the year he comes along. You can't sit back and hope that your team happens to be the worst in the league the year Manning or Luck comes out.

They will. Routt wasn't a free agent he was released by his team same with Winston.

The reality is kc doesn't have the luxury of NOT drafting a QB high in the first round. I'm literally LMAO because I told you clowns this before!!

go ahead, search for my posts where I told you that passing on a QB like Nick Foles in the mid rounds was idiotic! Stupid. Why--because now your team will be forced to take a MUCH BIGGER chance on a high first round QB.

I would wish you all "good luck" on drafting a QB, but since you all are pretty much completely jaded in your ability to listen to any reason (and because you are rival fans), I'm wishing you all get exactly what YOU want:

A #1 QB pick, the first pick taken in the first round of the 2013 class.

Weird...

That sounds just like Geno Smith.

What big games has Geno Smith won?

my bad, he won the Orange Bowl. Anyway, put all your eggs in the Geno Smith basket, why not? You gotta start somewhere...

And Geno has put on weight this year. He's around 225 currently.

Read this article about Geno. It shows the character of a man when he's struggling. Make particular notes of the following and ask yourself if he would grade himself out perfectly:

"Holgorsen reiterated this week that Smith took too much blame for the 55-14 loss to Kansas State, one of the worst home losses in school history.

''He needs to handle the loss a little bit better,'' Holgorsen said. ''There are a whole bunch of people that play in the game, and coaches that are involved in the game. So there are a whole lot of people that can accept responsibility for the game, whether it's good or bad. He's not responsible for a loss.''

But Spavital pointed out Smith is quick to fall on the sword after a loss because it comes natural.

''That's just him,'' Spavital said. ''He's the quarterback, and he has that whole persona of 'If I lose, I'll take all the blame.'''

'Dana knows that I'm my own biggest critic and I'm always going to be hard on myself,'' Smith said. ''I think he understands that it's just my competitive nature and I'm never going to be hard on myself to the point where I would lose confidence.

''No one man can win or lose a game. But as the quarterback, I control a lot of what's going on out on the field, which is why I'm so hard on myself - because I want to win them all.''



http://sports.yahoo.com/news/geno-sm...42--ncaaf.html

Geno is a great prospect. Come April this place will be very, very excited about his future.

OH NOES WHAT THE **** WOULD WE DO WITHOUT ANOTHER SHITTY RICKY STANZI ON THIS TEAM???

PROBABLY SIT HIM BEHIND CASSEL AND QUINN.

Go **** yourself. Did it occur to you that this direction we're taking now with the QB is EXACTLY the way we wanted it to go?

Enjoy Manning for the next two years. Your team will be shitty garbage when he leaves

It shows what kind of character he has. That he's not big headed, and trying to avoid reprehensibility (even if he;s not to blame)

RacistBob will conveniently ignore this.

Agreed. He is smart, creative, and has all the physical tools to make it work.

He seems to be responsible, a strong leader, and ready for the NFL.

3 year starter at a big-time school with success?

Yeah, I'll take that.

Nice. I think it's impossible to tell which quarterback will be the better long term QB. Elite is a rare thing that only few achieve, it's not rated by superbowl wins, IE Dan Marino. Phillip Rivers, Jay Cutler, and Cam Newton will never know what it feels like to be a superbowl quarterback because they can't lead a team worth a shit. I want a leader, a man on the field, and when he makes a mistake he can get right back up and have a vengeful side to make that team pay afterwards. I hate the excuse that the Chiefs have one thing happen to them and then they suck the rest of the game. Barkley and Geno seem like leaders, I want to know how they respond once they get knocked on their asses. Geno hasn't responded well to his adversity this year, and Barkley will be interesting to see how he bounces back against Oregon. If Barkley is the shit, he'll do to the Oregon defense what not many teams have been able to do. I'd pick the higher upside overall and take Smith, but I think with either Quarterback we'll get someone we can rely on.

Oh yeah, and when we dump this entire abortion of a coaching staff and front office, we will might actually have coaches who can help him with his footwork and other things that will help him become great.

Thanks.

History says you are wrong dumbass. Midround QB's rarely if ever work. So yeah, still a dumbass donkey.

If only we would have taken shitty cock-sucking Nick Foles! Then our pussy shit coaching staff could be afraid to play HIM as well, and instead go with experience as the best chance to win.

Oh, and let's not forget that Nick Foles is worse than Ricky Stanzi.

**** this Cockstone chest-pounding mong