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|Zach| 07-26-2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8769857)
Looks like it's time to create Google accounts for my neighbors........

:LOL:

Bowser 07-26-2012 04:09 PM

No ESPN? No worries. It has MLB and NFL Networks. Throw in Fox SPorts and Metro Sports, and I'm good.

mrbiggz 07-26-2012 05:02 PM

I was the first to register in my neighborhood. only 24 more people to go before our goal is met.

Otter 07-26-2012 05:02 PM

Anyone post this yet?

https://fiber.google.com/about/

Otter 07-26-2012 05:03 PM

Gonna be some wicked kill counts coming out of FPS games in the mid-west.

Hammock Parties 07-26-2012 05:22 PM

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/wMM-qOU_1-I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

|Zach| 07-26-2012 05:43 PM

I am in.

Fish 07-26-2012 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8770058)
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/wMM-qOU_1-I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

WTF was that? Why am I crying?

Hammock Parties 07-26-2012 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8770091)
WTF was that? Why am I crying?

PORN

TORRENTS

WAREZ

DaFace 07-26-2012 06:15 PM

I'm officially jealous.

KCUnited 07-26-2012 06:21 PM

102 pre-registered, 28 more needed.

|Zach| 07-26-2012 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8770146)
I'm officially jealous.

Come over and download all the porn you want sir. Even the weird stuff.

Three7s 07-26-2012 06:37 PM

Doesn't reach Independence. I can't stand ATT/Comcast.

Otter 07-26-2012 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8770146)
I'm officially jealous.

Me too. By the time it gets here need bi-focals to see Megan Fox's saggy boobs.

RedDread 07-26-2012 06:59 PM

**** it, I'm moving to an area that's covered when my lease is up next year.

Pants 07-26-2012 07:02 PM

This needs to spread like the damn plague.

/superjelly

WoodDraw 07-26-2012 07:05 PM

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However, the service is missing some big networks in Time Warner's HBO, TNT and CNN, Walt Disney Co.'s ESPN and Disney Channel and News Corp.'s Fox News and FX.

That doesn't mean those channels are saying no to Google, just that deals have not been reached yet. HBO expects to be on the service shortly and an ESPN spokesman said the two are having "productive discussions."
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...,5185454.story

lcarus 07-26-2012 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8769903)
No ESPN? No worries. It has MLB and NFL Networks. Throw in Fox SPorts and Metro Sports, and I'm good.

There's too many games that come on ESPN that I would wanna watch.

Pablo 07-26-2012 08:21 PM

Goddamn it, I ****ing hate Time Warner. Thinking of buying a house in the Northland next summer when my lease is up. Where Google Fiber is may play a part in where I end up buying.

007 07-26-2012 08:25 PM

wonder what their rates will be. hate that Topeka couldn't get that contract but it is pretty standard that our city can't land anything good.

ArrowheadHawk 07-26-2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8770459)
wonder what their rates will be. hate that Topeka couldn't get that contract but it is pretty standard that our city can't land anything good.

Rates were announced. $70 for internet or $125 for TV + Internet

DaFace 07-26-2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 8770476)
Rates were announced. $70 for internet or $125 for TV + Internet

$70 = fast as **** internet
$300 (one-time) = internet

007 07-26-2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 8770476)
Rates were announced. $70 for internet or $125 for TV + Internet

holy crap. nevermind. heh

Saulbadguy 07-26-2012 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8770480)
holy crap. nevermind. heh

hahaha

DaFace 07-26-2012 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 8769244)
Not worth it.

/guru

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8770480)
holy crap. nevermind. heh

Fantastic.

ReynardMuldrake 07-26-2012 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by WoodDraw (Post 8770293)
However, the service is missing some big networks in Time Warner's HBO, TNT and CNN, Walt Disney Co.'s ESPN and Disney Channel and News Corp.'s Fox News and FX.

That doesn't mean those channels are saying no to Google, just that deals have not been reached yet. HBO expects to be on the service shortly and an ESPN spokesman said the two are having "productive discussions."

Wait, does that mean HBO could be included as part of the package? That would ****ing rule.

ArrowheadHawk 07-26-2012 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 8770508)
Wait, does that mean HBO could be included as part of the package? That would ****ing rule.

Yep. The premium package.

007 07-26-2012 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8770492)
Fantastic.

Yes, because Saul really went out on a limb predicting my response. :D

KCUnited 07-27-2012 04:33 AM

Apparently my neighborhood values internet speeds over basic lawn upkeep, w00t, I'm in.

|Zach| 07-27-2012 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 8770872)
Apparently my neighborhood values internet speeds over basic lawn upkeep, w00t, I'm in.

Ha nice. My "fiberhood" is off to a get start. It will get there it seems.

007 07-27-2012 05:09 AM

Hell, I would gladly pay the $300 construction fee for the free service. That is only a little bit less speed than what I have now.

eddyhartley 07-27-2012 05:18 AM

Thanks for sharing this..More information regarding this is welcome!

oldman 07-27-2012 06:02 AM

As someone who has a little experience in this field, I'd say that Sept. 2013 goal isn't too far off. It's not the cost of the fiber itself, it's the electronics that are expensive. If they're using a pre-subscribe and hitting you for $300 construction costs, that makes it pretty easy to lay out the network.

|Zach| 07-27-2012 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 8770907)
As someone who has a little experience in this field, I'd say that Sept. 2013 goal isn't too far off. It's not the cost of the fiber itself, it's the electronics that are expensive. If they're using a pre-subscribe and hitting you for $300 construction costs, that makes it pretty easy to lay out the network.

I would say that doesn't even begin to cut into the costs but that is just a guess. They do however seem to be efficient in how they are rolling out and the fact that they are making most everything.

kepp 07-27-2012 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 8770907)
As someone who has a little experience in this field, I'd say that Sept. 2013 goal isn't too far off. It's not the cost of the fiber itself, it's the electronics that are expensive. If they're using a pre-subscribe and hitting you for $300 construction costs, that makes it pretty easy to lay out the network.

But they're waiving the $300 fee for everyone who gets on a contract plan.

oldman 07-27-2012 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 8770924)
I would say that doesn't even begin to cut into the costs but that is just a guess. They do however seem to be efficient in how they are rolling out and the fact that they are making most everything.

You are correct about the costs, but it does show good faith on the part of the customer/fiberhood. That being said, the fiber is not the expensive part, it's the electronics. The key is to get your footprint in an area. I would guess that waiver is only for a short time.
BTW, I did see the contractors in KCK on Leavenworth Rd., working between 83rd and about 90th Wed. morning.

jiveturkey 07-27-2012 07:50 AM

It looks like the MO side is off to a good start and the small corner of KCK that has money is in.

loochy 07-27-2012 07:52 AM

The data is gonna be flowin through the fiber just like the power of all the Warriors flows through the veins of the Ultimate Warrior

brorth 07-27-2012 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by brorth (Post 8769148)
There is nothing planned for future rallies, yet.
Northland doesn't even get a token neighborhood.
A CS rep in chat told me their plan is to fiber all of KCK and KCMO by Sept. 2013.

Well, shit. CS Rep told me wrong. Only the neighborhoods that qualify in this rally will be done by Sept. 2013.

|Zach| 07-27-2012 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 8770959)
You are correct about the costs, but it does show good faith on the part of the customer/fiberhood. That being said, the fiber is not the expensive part, it's the electronics. The key is to get your footprint in an area. I would guess that waiver is only for a short time.
BTW, I did see the contractors in KCK on Leavenworth Rd., working between 83rd and about 90th Wed. morning.

I seriously doubt the electronics are the expensive part.

Saulbadguy 07-27-2012 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 8771035)
I seriously doubt the electronics are the expensive part.

I don't think he means the shit that goes inside the house. He is probably talking about the fiber PoP's and switching equipment.

Deberg_1990 07-27-2012 08:18 AM

How long until someone starts crying "Google is racist!" ?



http://voices.kansascity.com/entries...ig-kc-victory/


I did receive some backlash Thursday for this tweet: “Good #GoogleFiber: more speed. Bad #GoogleFiber: it’s for rich neigborhoods (pls. don’t pretend otherwise).”

That prompted some followers to make these points.
• Early adopters often pay more in technological breakthroughs (says the guy who spent $1,000 on a VCR in 1980).
• Google’s service will still be price competitive - and offer better speeds - than current providers.

Conceded.

However, Google’s own website showing which neighborhoods (I’m sorry, “fiberhoods”) were signing up for the service on Thursday and early Friday showed a predictable pattern:The more educated, middle- to upper-income neighborhoods in southwest KC and in midtown were signing up for first crack at the service.

Meanwhile, the neighborhoods without as many computers and without the income to afford the $70 or $120 proposed monthly charges for Google Fiber were signing up at far slower rates

Aspengc8 07-27-2012 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 8771043)
I don't think he means the shit that goes inside the house. He is probably talking about the fiber PoP's and switching equipment.

Yeah, EPON equipment is not cheap. I wonder how they are making up the build cost with the $300 fee for free users. It says for 1 year, then I wonder if you have to pick a service.

Deberg_1990 07-27-2012 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8770480)
holy crap. nevermind. heh

ROFL.


Like clockwork : )

Chazno 07-27-2012 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 8771072)
Yeah, EPON equipment is not cheap. I wonder how they are making up the build cost with the $300 fee for free users. It says for 1 year, then I wonder if you have to pick a service.

They just show it priced out that way. If you read the fine print it says free service guaranteed for 7 years.

Aspengc8 07-27-2012 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chazno (Post 8771097)
They just show it priced out that way. If you read the fine print it says free service guaranteed for 7 years.

I have no idea how they are going to make money off that pricing model. Maybe I should buy stock in motorola if this starts picking up.

Chazno 07-27-2012 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 8771127)
I have no idea how they are going to make money off that pricing model. Maybe I should buy stock in motorola if this starts picking up.

one thought is that they use their strength in data-mining and track your internet use to hand tailor advertising to you. I mean, they can already track what you "google", now they can follow you everywhere. What you shop online for, where you go for certain items. There is no end.

oldman 07-27-2012 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 8771043)
I don't think he means the shit that goes inside the house. He is probably talking about the fiber PoP's and switching equipment.

That was what I was talking about. A single optical concentrator card can run over $125K. The cost of fiber has dropped dramatically. When I first started engineering it, a 6 strand, single mode cable was about $2.45 a foot. The last time I looked, 48 strand was less than a dollar a foot. Multi mode is a little more.

ReynardMuldrake 07-27-2012 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 8771127)
I have no idea how they are going to make money off that pricing model. Maybe I should buy stock in motorola if this starts picking up.

They aren't making money on the pricing model. Remember, Google made its fortune on ad revenue.

Once they get a significant market share, they can leverage their position in the market any number of ways.

|Zach| 07-27-2012 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 8771127)
I have no idea how they are going to make money off that pricing model. Maybe I should buy stock in motorola if this starts picking up.

You're taking the narrow view.

Bearcat 07-27-2012 10:22 AM

The free option is brilliant. People aren't going to change providers unless it's significantly cheaper or significantly better, and as much as people complain about TWC, I don't think a $70/month or $120/month option is going to persuade people to make the switch... Google's "free" option is significantly cheaper than TWC in the long run, it lays down the infrastructure to make money in the area in the future. And unlike TWC's old infrastructure in areas like downtown KCMO (where I've heard from several people that TWC absolutely sucks), Google's infrastructure supports much better service.

TWC may not be losing sleep over the $70/month and $120/month options... at least not right now. However, I'm sure they're shitting their pants when thinking about all of their customers who currently pay $20-$30 month for internet.

ReynardMuldrake 07-27-2012 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8771379)
The free option is brilliant. People aren't going to change providers unless it's significantly cheaper or significantly better, and as much as people complain about TWC, I don't think a $70/month or $120/month option is going to persuade people to make the switch... Google's "free" option is significantly cheaper than TWC in the long run, it lays down the infrastructure to make money in the area in the future. And unlike TWC's old infrastructure in areas like downtown KCMO (where I've heard from several people that TWC absolutely sucks), Google's infrastructure supports much better service.

TWC may not be losing sleep over the $70/month and $120/month options... at least not right now. However, I'm sure they're shitting their pants when thinking about all of their customers who currently pay $20-$30 month for internet.

Yeah, it's going to cut the legs out from under the other ISPs in the area. How are they going to compete with free?

Also, you can advertise as "Google Fiber Ready" when you want to sell your house. When you discontinue service with a cable modem or DSL, the ISP reclaims the equipment to resell to the next occupant.

Mr. Laz 07-27-2012 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8771379)
The free option is brilliant. People aren't going to change providers unless it's significantly cheaper or significantly better, and as much as people complain about TWC, I don't think a $70/month or $120/month option is going to persuade people to make the switch... Google's "free" option is significantly cheaper than TWC in the long run, it lays down the infrastructure to make money in the area in the future. And unlike TWC's old infrastructure in areas like downtown KCMO (where I've heard from several people that TWC absolutely sucks), Google's infrastructure supports much better service.

TWC may not be losing sleep over the $70/month and $120/month options... at least not right now. However, I'm sure they're shitting their pants when thinking about all of their customers who currently pay $20-$30 month for internet.

$120 for t.v and internet is a pretty good deal.

$70 for internet just isn't going to appeal to the average person

only the heavy internet users are going to go for it. The rich people with more money they they need with get it just for kicks, of course.

$50 would of been a more competitive introductory price imo.

It's not about the speed, it about the price. JMO


the $300/5megs for 7 years is going to be a huge draw though

ReynardMuldrake 07-27-2012 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8771411)
$120 for t.v and internet is a pretty good deal.

$70 for internet just isn't going to appeal to the average person

only the heavy internet users are going to go for it. The rich people with more money they they need with get it just for kicks, of course.

$50 would of been a more competitive introductory price imo.

It's not about the speed, it about the price. JMO


the $300/5megs for 7 years is going to be a huge draw though

???

Have you priced ISPs out recently? The going rate for high speed is anywhere from $30-60 ish for the 2-5mbps or so range. Google Fiber is offering ~120mbps for $70. And you think that's not competitive?

Saulbadguy 07-27-2012 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 8771436)
???

Have you priced ISPs out recently? The going rate for high speed is anywhere from $30-60 ish for the 2-5mbps or so range. Google Fiber is offering ~120mbps for $70. And you think that's not competitive?

He's an idiot.

-King- 07-27-2012 10:46 AM

I wish the free package was more than 5Mbs. I'd be willing to pay more for the construction fee if it was.

Or at least have a package in between the free and $70 a month one. That's a pretty steep jump.

Bearcat 07-27-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8771411)
$120 for t.v and internet is a pretty good deal.

$70 for internet just isn't going to appeal to the average person

only the heavy internet users are going to go for it. The rich people with more money they they need with get it just for kicks, of course.

$50 would of been a more competitive introductory price imo.

It's not about the speed, it about the price. JMO


the $300/5megs for 7 years is going to be a huge draw though

I pay less than $120/month for TWC (even though it's gone up a few times since my initial 12 months was up) and I get about 20-25 megabit down (and 1 megabit up), as well as a sports package... so, hopefully Google's $120/month option includes NHLN, CBS and NBC Sports, etc (I think they're all listed, but not sure if any are premium); or else it would be a tougher decision. I like the service and they were pretty responsive about the couple of issues I've had... and it's not like I need a 1 gigabit internet connection, so even though the geek in me is all " :drool: ", the practical side of me is kind of glad I can sit back and see what others think before it comes to the Northland.

I thought their introductory price would be closer to $50/month, but I like all of the options... if speed matters, $70/month isn't bad for a connection that's 100 times faster. If you just check email and facebook, $25/month for a year and then free for 6 years after that is awesome.

ReynardMuldrake 07-27-2012 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 8771448)
He's an idiot.

Supposedly there's an ISP in TN that is deploying fiber-to-your-door right now. They charge in the $300-400/mo range. $70 is price-war competitive.

|Zach| 07-27-2012 10:48 AM

TV channel wise...this is only the starting point. They are working out more deals and the cool thing about the value of all of this is it will only expand.

Mr. Laz 07-27-2012 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 8771436)
???

Have you priced ISPs out recently? The going rate for high speed is anywhere from $30-60 ish for the 2-5mbps or so range. Google Fiber is offering ~120mbps for $70. And you think that's not competitive?

all the little computer nerds running around here are going to get pissed ... i get it.

The average user can get a 10 meg connection through road runner for 29.99(+extra bullshit) and that speed is all they are going to really need.

unless you have a specific speed need(ie work,nerd joy etc) or you have money to waste the average person isn't going spend $70 a month on internet if they can get it for $30. JMO

Bearcat 07-27-2012 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8771480)
all the little computer nerds running around here are going to get pissed ... i get it.

The average user can get a 10 meg connection through road runner for 29.99(+extra bullshit) and that speed is all they are going to really need.

unless you have a specific speed need(ie work,nerd joy etc) or you have money to waste the average person isn't going spend $70 a month on internet if they can get it for $30. JMO

I agree with that, even though it's slowly changing with the number of households that are cutting cable. $70/month is a good deal if you want that kind of speed, but I don't think the average customer cares. When I've had issues watching online streams in the past, it's because I was getting something stupid like 0.5mbps.... Google's free option will be more than enough for many people.

Mr. Plow 07-27-2012 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8770480)
holy crap. nevermind. heh


LMAO

Chazno 07-27-2012 11:18 AM

I'll agree that $70 option isn't for every one. If I were in an area to get it I would either do free or the TV. 1080p uncompressed video(rumors) would be well worth it just for the TV, the gigabit internet would be icing.

kepp 07-27-2012 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8771480)
all the little computer nerds running around here are going to get pissed ... i get it.

The average user can get a 10 meg connection through road runner for 29.99(+extra bullshit) and that speed is all they are going to really need.

unless you have a specific speed need(ie work,nerd joy etc) or you have money to waste the average person isn't going spend $70 a month on internet if they can get it for $30. JMO

Absolutely. The average user doesn't need more than 8-10 mbps speed and, even if $20 more for that kind of speed is technically a fantastic deal, it will be hard for a lot of people to justify. I have a feeling that Google pushed the price on the internet-only plan up a bit in order to get people into the internet + TV plan. That plan would be much easier to justify judging by what people are paying TWC for their bundled services.

duncan_idaho 07-27-2012 11:25 AM

The internet option looks awesome. I work from home and use a VPN connection, so the speed increase would be HUGE for me. I need upload speeds at a much higher rate because of our VPN client.

TV option is not very attractive right now. They need to include HBO, ESPN, Fox Sports, etc. in that package to make it something I'll look at. My Time Warner TV service is excellent. It's just their internet that is lacking (especially in my neighborhood).

nstygma 07-27-2012 12:05 PM

one could really stream some high quality sports action with that upspeed, hint hint :)
just in time too

Fish 07-27-2012 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8771480)
all the little computer nerds running around here are going to get pissed ... i get it.

The average user can get a 10 meg connection through road runner for 29.99(+extra bullshit) and that speed is all they are going to really need.

unless you have a specific speed need(ie work,nerd joy etc) or you have money to waste the average person isn't going spend $70 a month on internet if they can get it for $30. JMO

Well... the thing about that though... That 10MB connection through Road Runner jumps in price to $59.99 after that first 12 month promotion period. And that price has went up every year for the last few years. I know because that's exactly the plan I have, and my bill is $63/month for standard internet only.

So after that first year of TW, you're only looking at an extra $10 difference between TW's 10MB connection and Google's 1000MB connection. And TW's price is sure to raise more in another year.

TW even words it so they can raise the price however much they want after that 12 month promotion. They won't even quote you what the "Standard rate" will be once your promotion is over. They simply say "After the promotional period ends, you will be charged the standard rate that is in effect at that time. We suggest you contact your local office at the end of your promotional period." What kind of shitty business is that?

Considering Google's prices, and the fact that TW has tons of little surcharges and equipment fees that they don't include in their quotes, Google's prices are more than competitive...

007 07-27-2012 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chazno (Post 8771562)
I'll agree that $70 option isn't for every one. If I were in an area to get it I would either do free or the TV. 1080p uncompressed video(rumors) would be well worth it just for the TV, the gigabit internet would be icing.

I would be all over the free option at $300 for one year. I only get 6mb now so dropping to 5 wouldn't even be an issue for me.

Mr. Plow 07-27-2012 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8772364)
I would be all over the free option at $300 for one year. I only get 6mb now so dropping to 5 wouldn't even be an issue for me.

It says on their website a $300 construction fee with free service guaranteed for at least 7 years.

So, is that $300 per year, or $300 total? I could see either being something you, and a lot of people, being interested in.

007 07-27-2012 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 8772396)
It says on their website a $300 construction fee with free service guaranteed for at least 7 years.

So, is that $300 per year, or $300 total? I could see either being something you, and a lot of people, being interested in.

$300 total. It is a steal and the average user should be jumping all over that. Especially since they are letting you pay it at $25 per month for 12 months.

Mr. Plow 07-27-2012 03:45 PM

The video, plus the comment makes this funny.


<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/A9v11qJTG8o" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


Hilarious, inadvertent endorsement from AT&T. This video paused to load several times while connected to my AT&T DSL line. I'm convinced...where do I sign?!?!

TheCharleseye 37 minutes ago

Mr. Plow 07-27-2012 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8772452)
$300 total. It is a steal and the average user should be jumping all over that. Especially since they are letting you pay it at $25 per month for 12 months.

My thoughts exactly. $300 for 7 years is $3.57/month....that's crazy.

Mr. Laz 07-27-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8771880)
Well... the thing about that though... That 10MB connection through Road Runner jumps in price to $59.99 after that first 12 month promotion period. And that price has went up every year for the last few years. I know because that's exactly the plan I have, and my bill is $63/month for standard internet only.

So after that first year of TW, you're only looking at an extra $10 difference between TW's 10MB connection and Google's 1000MB connection. And TW's price is sure to raise more in another year.

TW even words it so they can raise the price however much they want after that 12 month promotion. They won't even quote you what the "Standard rate" will be once your promotion is over. They simply say "After the promotional period ends, you will be charged the standard rate that is in effect at that time. We suggest you contact your local office at the end of your promotional period." What kind of shitty business is that?

Considering Google's prices, and the fact that TW has tons of little surcharges and equipment fees that they don't include in their quotes, Google's prices are more than competitive...

well i've been with TW for a long time(10+years) and my 10mb Road Runner month-to-month is a base 29.99 with a total of 36.99 after all the taxes and shit.

in fact, i think 5 bucks of that extra stuff is because i recently dropped the rest of Time Warner. so they charge me extra for keeping RR. It's 29.99 + 5 dollar rental to TW + tax.

so you're doing something wrong

suzzer99 07-29-2012 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8771880)
Well... the thing about that though... That 10MB connection through Road Runner jumps in price to $59.99 after that first 12 month promotion period. And that price has went up every year for the last few years. I know because that's exactly the plan I have, and my bill is $63/month for standard internet only.

So after that first year of TW, you're only looking at an extra $10 difference between TW's 10MB connection and Google's 1000MB connection. And TW's price is sure to raise more in another year.

TW even words it so they can raise the price however much they want after that 12 month promotion. They won't even quote you what the "Standard rate" will be once your promotion is over. They simply say "After the promotional period ends, you will be charged the standard rate that is in effect at that time. We suggest you contact your local office at the end of your promotional period." What kind of shitty business is that?

Considering Google's prices, and the fact that TW has tons of little surcharges and equipment fees that they don't include in their quotes, Google's prices are more than competitive...

I could be wrong but I think google is 1 Gigabit/s = 125 Megabyte/s.

ArrowheadHawk 07-29-2012 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 8776556)
I could be wrong but I think google is 1 Gigabit/s = 125 Megabyte/s.

Today's internet speeds are measured in Megabits / second. Your math is correct but there is no reason to measure the speed in Megabytes.

suzzer99 07-29-2012 06:22 PM

Ah, he posted MB so that confused me. Is he really paying $60 for 10 Mps?

Er, ok I guess he is. I have FIOS and I just tested my internet speed at 15 Mbs. It's hard to imagine 80x faster than what I have now.

ArrowheadHawk 07-29-2012 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 8776629)
Ah, he posted MB so that confused me. Is he really paying $60 for 10 Mps?

Er, ok I guess he is. I have FIOS and I just tested my internet speed at 15 Mbs. It's hard to imagine 80x faster than what I have now.

That is what makes what google is doing so revolutionary.

DaFace 07-29-2012 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 8776629)
Ah, he posted MB so that confused me. Is he really paying $60 for 10 Mps?

Er, ok I guess he is. I have FIOS and I just tested my internet speed at 15 Mbs. It's hard to imagine 80x faster than what I have now.

Realistically, your own computer (and possibly the connection of the server on the other end) will be the bottleneck. That kind of speed for consumers is just plain unheard of.

ReynardMuldrake 07-29-2012 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8776858)
Realistically, your own computer (and possibly the connection of the server on the other end) will be the bottleneck. That kind of speed for consumers is just plain unheard of.

I've been crunching the numbers and I just don't see how I can utilize that kind of bandwidth presently. Wireless G tops out at around 20mbps, N at around 70mbps. I could run a drop to my media center [where most of my bandwidth gets used] but my media center PC does not have a gigabit NIC. So at best I could utilize maybe 1/10th of the pipe at any given time.

I'm wondering if the 5mbps circuit might be the better option.

Fish 07-31-2012 03:13 PM

FYI....

Live in an apartment and want Google Fiber? Does Google not recognize your address to complete the registration form?

Here's how to get it:

I called up Google spokeswoman Jenna Wandres, who told me that the manager of my apartment complex would have to fill out a form to get into Fiber consideration. This form. You'll want to send the link to your apartment complex or condo manager, too, if you want Fiber.

"We're encouraging residents to talk to their landlords first, and tell them that they're interested in having Google Fiber for their apartment building," Wandres said. "Then the landlord can get in touch with us online and ask us to build to the building."

So downtown apartment dwellers, if you want Fiber, talk to your landlords and send 'em that link.

http://support.google.com/fiber/bin/...e=mdu_interest


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