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So yes, I think you're really reaching if this is the argument you want to hang your hat on. That a QB should learn a totally new offense in one day and that his team should be prepared to play with a guy they've only known for 1 day. |
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Not starting him in Chicago was. |
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I am not sure that Haley was a worse head coach than Herman ****ing Edwards, though. The blowouts might be telling to you, but the blowouts were, in large part, due to Haley's more aggressive style. Herman ****ing Edwards wouldn't take any kind of risk, ever, and that kept his team in a lot of games, but it also never gave his team any chance to steal wins. Even Haley's approach to last offseson was risky, and it blew up in his face. I still believe that, in time, he'll grow, and when he does, he will be a damn good head coach. He just wasn't prepared for this opportunity. Quote:
This is what you're going with? LMAO Dumbass. |
Best part is when haley was on that nfl show being part of the crew and they were taking digs at KC's front office and QB. lol That shit was great, i wish i had it recorded.
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One of the worst, I meant. "Worse"?
And let's not pretend that Orton was sitting on a couch somewhere. The Palmer situation isn't analogous, though I know that Haley's super-duper-complicated offense would have made it difficult to learn even the barest essentials in 48-72 hours. Draw!!!! |
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I liked Haley and he was a first time HC anywhere i beleive, i think he's gonna get another shot somewhere and this time will have a chance to pick a qb, not have one force fed down his throat. I also remember Herm saying Punts were a good thing. lol Lets not forget that Herm threw the team under the bus after every loss. I did my job, they didnt do theirs. what kind of bullshit is that. I rather go for the gusto and try to take a win then just sit back hoping the other team makes a mistake. Good teams with good qb's go for it, not wait. |
The big thing to me is that there was never any stability with the coaching staff. There was never any rhyme or reason to his gameday coaching. To me, they are both indicators of a guy who has no idea what he wants to do, no idea how he wants to build a team, and no idea how to lead. He belongs right where he is, as an OC for an offense headed by a Super Bowl winning QB, and under a boss who actually knows how to lead men. In other words, a position pretty much any competent OC could be successful in. Haley is not head coaching material...
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The performances at Arrowhead were completely inexcusable! With that said I liked having a guy with so much enthusiasm. When BFlowers picked off Palmer in Oak and took it back for six, Haley raced down the entire sideline with him. It was such a contrast to Herm.
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I liked Haley, and think he can thrive in the proper situation.
Polio has too much control here, and I think Haley clashed with him on a lot of his decisions. (Like Cassel as QB) |
I hope he fails miserably in Pittsburgh. That spoiled fanbase deserves about 20-25 years of disappointment.
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Haley is far too smart to fail anywhere with a good QB. I've always liked his playcalling, even here. Lousy HC, but excellent OC. |
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Rapelisburger will make him look like a genius, just like Warner did. But seriously, **** the spoiled Pittsburgh fanbase. |
They went through a lot of lean years, just like us, although their idea of a lean year is 10-6.
They are now enjoying a franchise QB, so we should not hate. |
do you think one day Chiefs fans can enjoy a franchise QB?
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God damn it! Reading this crap really iritates me. EVERYONE knows Matt is nothing special except the people who can do something about it. Turn up the heat Stanzi, your our only hope.
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I liked Haley. Old news now. I hope the Packers game wasn't a one hit wonder for Crennel, that's all I hope. We do have more talent, but I think Haley got ****ed. Doesn't matter now. We have who we have. I just hope Stanzi shines.
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People will come, Ray. People will most definitely come.
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Based on what, exactly? One year in Phoenix, where he was a foot shuffling porter to Whisenhunt? Your hatred of the Chiefs has completely clouded your judgment. |
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Haley was fine with Tony Romo. He was passing game coordinator during Romo's first year.
FYI, Haley was OC two years in AZ. |
Haley put Warner back on the map as a name/player/etc. Dude was a backup of a backup.
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At this point in time, that seems like the most likely way for that to happen. |
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Crennel MIGHT be a good head coach for a veteran, established team like the Patriots. I think he's a HORRIBLE head coach for a young team that doesn't have a lot of clear cut veteran leaders. |
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Warner hand a thumb issue that never really healed while with the Rams the last season, then signed with a team (the Giants) that he really wasn't a good fit. Leinart played himself out of the job in Phoenix, and when Warner got the opportunity he ran with it. Haley didn't put him back on the map. That was all Warner. |
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Maybe after Haley's done fixing Roethlisberger he can go work his magic on Eli or Brady.
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That being said, at the very least, I think Pioli's built a better team full of leaders and hard working players that Cleveland did not -- nobody expects guys like Kellen Winslow and Braylon Edwards to lead a team. So maybe it will be fine this time around. But in terms of game management, unless he's done a 180, we're going to see a game manager who will bring us back to the days of Herm Edwards. Some of the avid Browns fans I spoke to told me to expect 2 challenges a game wasted on plays that aren't even close. |
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And no, I'm typing on a mobile device, but clearly, you weren't able to figure out the gist of my post. Which is not at all surprising. |
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"But his work ethic is better! Haley motivated him!" |
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I think the whole hire is a farce anyway.
No one wanted to work with Pioli. And no respectable OC wanted to work with Cassel. So we were forced into Romeo by default, and we hired an OC that needed to eat some shit to advance his career. |
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Pioli has backed himself into a corner where, if we lose because of Matt Cassel, he has the appealing options of Brady Quinn and Ricky Stanzi. The fact that people can't recognize this for the epic failure it is continually astounds me. |
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I think Dane just found Chiefsplanet a burst. |
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Warner didn't do very well in NY because of the system... which would be coaching... yet flourished in Arizona but the coaching didn't have anything to do with it. And no, I am not saying all the credit should go to Haley. |
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The most memorable moment was the game where I remember watching him call a timeout, sprint down the sidelines to make an ill-advised challenge, then lose the challenge (the Browns burned two timeouts). I also recall that in his short stint with Kansas City, he made a mind-numbingly dumb challenge on a reception where the receiver had two feet down by an absolute mile. And if you want extra validation: http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/tag/.../romeo-crennel "I've got Romeo Crennel with an 0-13 challenge record at home, but 4-6 on the road." 4 for 19. That's less than a 25% success rate. Yikes. |
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Philosophy is dictated by coaching so you can draw that conclusion. But to say he didnt do well is something of a misnomer. He didn't play up to the level in New York that he did in St. Louis or Phoenix, but he did actually do a respectable job. He just isn't a play action QB. |
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Tom Coughlin is the same guy in New York as he was in Jacksonville. |
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Coughlin and Bill went from Shit as a qb, to Manning and Brady
lol Romeo, went from Shit to Cassel. lol HUGE HUGE HUGE ****ing difference. |
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Well, at least I won't have to write a declaration of independence from romeo. He'll die of old age before the proletariat rises up. |
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There's lots of shit Pioli has ****ed up. The 2010 and 2011 drafts were OK. Our free agent class this year is OK. Other than that, it's not hard to understand why we've only won 21 games in 3 years. And shit like Dwayne Bowe doesn't help to change my opinion. |
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The hope some fans have this year is absolutely audacious. The wool has been pulled over their eyes (and I'm not talking about anyone here). |
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If not, no, because that will be two years in a row he ****ed up the backup QB position. Fool me once... I have very serious doubts he will ever allow Cassel to be benched. And if that doesn't happen, and he's here a 5th year, this whole place will be done with him. |
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Or do you think that Mark Brunell in his prime was shit? And while Vinnie Testaverde never lived up to his #1 overall draft billing (read: Super Bowl victory), he was far from "shit" in Cleveland, Baltimore and later, the NY Jets. Wrong answer. |
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You know who else sucked at challenges?
He was black and 200 lbs lighter. |
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And there was all sorts of talk about "renewed commitment" and "attention to detail" circulating in the media the week leading up to the game. But it was "same old Chiefs." I could be wrong and am ****ing up the timeline on this. |
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Juggernaut of offensive and defensive talent. |
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:facepalm: Racist, much? |
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I just know in my gut that a team of Romeo, Daboll and Cassel is a freaking joke. I mean, we should have someone who's accomplished something in their current position SOMEWHERE among those three positions if we want to actually beat people, don't you think? |
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