They weren't going the unproven assistant route after Haley.

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I see 7 wins. 2-4 max against the AFC West and maybe 1-5 against the other road teams.

Fingers crossed
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He had no talent in Cleveland,your just hating.

When Clark Hunt cleans house in 2 or 3 years starting with Scott Pioli, we can look back on Cassel and Romeo Crennel as the moves that sealed Pioli's fate.

So.....he didn't get a contract extension right?

How many did you have for this year before the season? I had 8 and that was with Charles, and Berry, and Palko not starting a single game.

It's really hard to guess at a win total based on the teams we play. Some will be better than expected, some will be worse.

I'm sure crennel will get like a new 3 year deal when the chiefs make the move final.

I expected 6 with the aforementioned not hurt, and didn't expect Palko to start at all.

I can see 5-1 in the AFC West, and as high as 11-5 on the entire schedule.

Don't beat around the bush, Milky way.

Tell us why Crennel is a shitty hire.

Which is unfortunate. This seems more like a move to appease pioli, to appease the fans, and appease the players. It doesn't feel like the kind of move you make to take a chance that wins you a super bowl.

This move scares me for a lot of other reasons too. What if it's because no coach wants to work with him? Does this signal that pioli is stubbornly insistent on the patriot way? Is this a string of moves that pioli will make to save his job rather than build a super bowl team? If so, we will never see a young qb here. Is Romeo the type of coach who will be fiercely loyal to playervlike cassel? Probably a lot mores.

Shit.

But you don`t know,stop with the foretelling the future bs.It has not even played out and u already have them losing.They beat Green bay so they can beat anyone.

I am actually expecting Romeo to do something about the QB position. Hopefully.

We'll win some no one thought we would, we'll lose a few that looked easy, but we're not a bad team, actually we're a good team. Cassel holds us back, and last year the team seemed to take on the attitude of Haley, in than they didn't give a sh*t in several games.

Romeo sure didn't sound fiercely loyal to cassel in interviews after taking over
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If you would just stop listening to Nick athan you would be less butt hurt.

Player's coaches rarely win.

at least RAC tried to DRAFT a QB in Cleveland (Quinn)

even though it failed miserably, at least he tried. That's more than we can say for any Chiefs coach in the last..... ____ years.

I think the best thing about hiring Romeo is that he will want to find a different qb. He has seen Cassel's ineptitude handcuff our defense firsthand.

This is where I'm at too
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I think Romeo is a fantastic choice for HC....
Your defense is already good so why tamper with another coach coming in and messing up the part of the game the Chiefs are good at...

Congrats to Romeo, he makes it hard to be a Chief hater because I really like the guy.

Why would he be so successful as dc then?
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It must have been talent that led Romeo to have one of the more penalized teams and to be an awful game manager full of bad timeouts and head scratching decisions. Must have been talent that led to the team getting sloppy.

Maybe things have changed. I don't hate crennel. I think he's a terrific coordinator. One of the better ones. But he's not head coach material.

No Romeos not a yes man,hes 64 hes not going to blow this and let pioli tell him how to lose .It Romeos last chance to dance.

There is always motive to get revenge when a person is let go from a team and has a chance for payback. I hope he is given that opportunity because I am not impressed with him as a head coach~

No I don't see it as coaches refusing to coach here because of Pioli. people assumed Fisher walked away because he couldn't work with Pioli, well yeah, in that Pioli is in charge, he's the GM. It's no coincidence that Fisher went to the team that didn't have a GM, he'll get a lot of say so there, even though they are the worst team he could go to.

Head coaches are administrators.

Coordinators are teachers.

BS. With a good QB (which means Orton or better) we'll probably split in the division (3-3), and pick up 3-4 other home games.

Which means we'd only need to win 2 or 3 at the following teams: Pittsburgh, Cleveland, NO, Tampa, Buffalo.

That can happen. This won't be the same team next year with a different QB. Our defense rapes faces. If our offense can achieve respectability again, we're good to go.

Whatever I think your just racist

Haleys the guy who kicks players' asses. Romeo is the shoulder they cry on.

Gregg Williams, spagnuolo, mangini, norv... Do we really need to go down the list of great coordinators who were bad head coaches?

They're two totally different jobs. Dc requires you to be great at coaching players and developing strategies. Romeo is exceptional a that. Being a coach means disciplining players, dealing with the media, being on point for personnel decisions, motivating players, managing the team and coaches, setting practice schedules.

It's like any profession. The more you move up, the less it becomes about technical skills.

Got ya
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Moron.

So the Chiefs are going to have the SAME record with JC, Mo, and Berry playing?

Kill yourself

Anyone who was here during the herm era is laughing and spitting their cheerios on the screen right now.

Bad timeouts and head scratching decisions, you say???

Sounds like someone we all know?

http://floppingout.com/wp-content/up...aley_large.jpg

Didn't Romeo go 10-6 with a shitty CLE team QB'd by Jake Delhomme?

There's about 100x more talent here in KC than he ever had in CLE.

I think it was Derek Anderson. Braylon Edwards was even there.

It can happen but KC's arrow isn't trending that way with losing 5 straight to OAK at home, never winning in SD and pulling out miracles at home.

KC can't win in Florida, got smoked by the Aaron Brooks lead Saints in '04 and PITT/Buffalo is a tossup.

And that's just the road games.

Also, Haley was the biggest failure of a head coach in this department that I've ever seen. He made more idiotic gameday decisions than Herm and Gunther combined.

As they say, "It can't possibly get any worse."

Crennel and Herm are no where near the same kind of coach. Herm was like ESPN's idea of what a coach should be, just a show.

Well that sums it up your a racist.Your just mad Romeos HC

What? LMAO

The Chiefs HAVE won in Florida, douche. The reason why they probably haven't had much success there recently is they've been dogshit for the past 15 years, and have had trouble winning on the road PERIOD.

Do you really think not winning in Florida has anything to do with the location?

Man, we won 7 Games THIS season w/o Charles, Berry and Moeaki while having one of the most dramatic front offices in the league. Oh....and Tyler Palko.

You honestly think they won't equal that with a slightly softer schedule, stability at HC and key players returning?

Seems like you're not thinking clearly.

i like romeo, but this reeks of the peter principle...

it feels like pioli doesn't have a plan....did he really scour the assistant ranks of the entire league and determine that RAC has the most potential as a HC?

really?....in the same way he scoured the league and decided that Cassel was the best QB to lead a franchise?

or, in both cases, did he settle for the familiar....

What does any of this have to do with next years Chiefs?

Meh. Prior to this season, a season where I think the chiefs forced Haley to work with muir, this team wasn't that bad from a game management standpoint. I think people get hung up because they don't agree with certain judgment calls. That's different from a system that feels a little sloppy.

Know why the Chiefs haven't had road success?

Probably because they haven't had A ****ING QUARTERBACK SINCE MOSES WAS ALIVE

Wasn't my first choice but have to support him now. Hope he brings in players and a system that will generate real scoring without the threat of Cassel taking the field.

I was the only one on this board who defended herm. Took a lot of shit for it.

I can't tell if you're serious or not.

LMAO I literally laughed reading this. My God.

but really, it doesn't matter...unless we get a QB the coach is ****ed

and I don't mean Orton...I mean a real QB

if Romeo thinks he can roll with Orton then he, orton, and pioli will be shit canned within 3 years...and we will have wasted 5-6 years on complete pieces of shit

I am cool with it as long as we get good coordinators in here. That was a big issue in Cleveland, especially when he hired Carthon to be his OC. Hopefully he learned some good lessons in that time. He immediately inherits more talent than Cleveland ever had...

Fine. I'll eat crow when an objective party foretells of KC doing any better but I'll reiterate:

KC doesn't consistently win on the road unless they're playing the NFC West or QB-less teams.

They haven't had a winning record against the AFC West since Herm, probably Vermeil.

Oh, and they're probably going to start Cassel under center. If not, Orton. Choose your poison.

I'm sure one of his conditions for return was the continuation of Cassell as starter seeing he wasn't given a real fair shake this past season

The only way I'm ok with this is if we go out and get a bad ass OC. We have too much talent to score as less as we did this year, even without JC.

This is a risky hire in itself by Pioli. GoChiefs is right, if Romeo fails then bye-bye Pioli.

I believed then what I still believe today. Herm was a great coach to have at just the right time. This team was moving in a very good trajectory because of him. He wasn't a guy who could take the team to a super bowl. But he took a ton of shit he didn't deserve. He got dealt the worst hand in the NFL.

I was looking at the FA available in 09 and the draft, thinking surely we could have done better. Cassel was as good as it got, from what I saw.

Impossible. When Moses was alive they didn't have internet. America was not discovered as we know it yet.

I am willing to bet my sig on this one.

Hire a good OC, jettison Cassel, and I'm all for this.

Just afraid we'll be doing this all over again in 2 years or so.

LMAO who gives a **** about a 2004 loss vs the Saints?

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Of course he settled for the familiar.

People can say, "there were no must-hire guys out there" all they want.

Were Mike McCarthy, Sean Payton and Mike Smith "must have" guys?

Hell no.

Not sure why they even bothered interviewing anyone else and wasting their time - we all knew they'd settle on RAC.

This guy is going to make Herm Edwards look like Todd Haley in the discipline department.

Herm was completely incompetent as a gameday coach in KC. Gaffe after gaffe after gaffe. He should have been fired after the team didn't make a first down in the first half of a playoff game.

If we can get a decent OC, like Weis, we might have a chance at the playoffs.

Sound familiar?

Key players will be back for '12. We'll squeeze just enough offense from a QB-starved unit to win a punchless division. Many will praise RAC. Apology threads will be demanded and certain posters will be derided.

And then we'll get our asses handed to us in the playoffs. Play a first-place schedule in '13, and the veneer will be completely off the shit. Similar to the '11 season.

And we'll continue to be mired in mediocrity. Until Pioli is fired.

In years one and two, Haley was an average game manager. He wasn't bad. Anyone who says he was bad is just nitpicking.

The wheels didn't come off until this year. But I think there were extenuating circumstances.

herm was a ****ing terrible coach

LMAO Yeah, the best coaches in the league often send Brodie Croyle out to fake a punt from their own 20.

LMAO

zilla is turning into a cartoon.

It's amazing too me how some people do not get how important the QB is.

They also have FB's throwing 40 yards downfield to QB's.

Haley was an unbelievably poor HC, and it's amazing that he received any support on this forum.

Nailed it.

I think you are serious but not really sure...
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we'll win enough games to not be in position to draft a QB...just like this year...

but no one cares...as long as there is some vet cast off trash like Orton to fuel dreams of 9-7 most Chiefs fans are happy

LMAO

Wish it would come out what those extenuating circumstances were. Head coaches don't throw away their positions on a lark

After how rac talked about the qb position why is everyone so sure we are sucking with cassel?
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As I said years ago, herm had croney coordinators forced on him. We didn't get a first down that game because solari ran r2p2. The gailey decision appeared to be one where herm had more input. People forget that herm allowed gaily to run a very pass oriented offense.

If herm had gailey instead of solari, we would have looked very different vs Indy. But again, I fully understand that herm was never going to take the team deep into the playoffs.

If I said "Nixon administration", which is the truth, people would get depressed. Far better to exaggerate in this case.