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Ming the Merciless 04-25-2010 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Delano (Post 6714217)
You've been called out as a mult. Do the honorable thing: confess, give your regular account name, and delete this account.
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Me? I swear I am not a mult if you are referring to me...I think Rustshack and BCD are though, seriously. I think he logs in BCD and agrees with himself...kind of a self-stroke wack off session.

I am just new, I came from another board that would have kicked me off a long time ago for saying any one of the the things I have said here today alone...

I am in love with CP and it's denizens. This place is the best...I am so addicted.

RustShack 04-25-2010 08:08 PM

So what your saying is, all the intelligent people here are dupes? I think your just a doof.

Delano 04-25-2010 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 6714227)
Me? I swear I am not a mult if you are referring to me...I think Rustshack and BCD are though, seriously. I think he logs in BCD and agrees with himself...kind of a self-stroke wack off session.

I am just new, I came from another board that would have kicked me off a long time ago for saying any one of the the things I have said here today alone...

I am in love with CP and it's denizens. This place is the best...I am so addicted.

LMAO

You've been revealed as a mult by a moderator. Just leave, brah.
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Ming the Merciless 04-25-2010 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Delano (Post 6714233)
LMAO

You've been revealed as a mult by a moderator. Just leave, brah.
Posted via Mobile Device

LOL...

I don't think so...Who is the mod that said I was a mult?

Delano 04-25-2010 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 6714237)
LOL...

I don't think so...Who is the mod that said I was a mult?

Are you pioli zombie?
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Ceej 04-25-2010 08:16 PM

This thread is almost as bad as the Knowmo appreciation thread.

Almost.

notorious 04-25-2010 08:17 PM

PawnNower

vs.


PawnMower


Close but not the same guy IMO

Bugeater 04-25-2010 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Delano (Post 6714233)
LMAO

You've been revealed as a mult by a moderator. Just leave, brah.
Posted via Mobile Device

No he wasn't, the author of post #64 and 65 is the mult. Look again.

Tombstone RJ 04-25-2010 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawmnower (Post 6714134)
**** YOU ALL TO GOD DAMN HELL! YOU ARE ALL REDTARTEDS

What's a redtart anyway? Is that like a super special chef's fan?

Ming the Merciless 04-25-2010 08:21 PM

Im pretty flattered, I have been here about a month and already have my own personal Troll....

Thanks 'PawmNower' !!

Delano 04-25-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 6714248)
No he wasn't, the author of post #64 and 65 is the mult. Look again.

OIC. Ban 'em both and ask questions later.
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jspchief 04-25-2010 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6713971)
FB's shouldn't be drafted in the second round.

Neither should RB to slot WR projects, but I digress.

RustShack 04-25-2010 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 6714282)
Neither should RB to slot WR projects, but I digress.

Hes a more talented version of Golden Tate.

WildTurkey 04-25-2010 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 6714282)
Neither should RB to slot WR projects, but I digress.

He's no project...... he was a wr in college before being moved to the rb position to get him more touches

jspchief 04-25-2010 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6714294)
Hes a more talented version of Golden Tate.

I certainly hope so. I'm not a fan of using that pick on a guy that will never be more than a slot receiver, let alone a really small one that made his name in college doing something other than playing a conventional position.

Ming the Merciless 04-25-2010 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 6714306)
I certainly hope so. I'm not a fan of using that pick on a guy that will never be more than a slot receiver, let alone a really small one that made his name in college doing something other than playing a conventional position.

+rep

This is how I feel. With the 36th overall I think we couldve and shouldve come up with something better...but I hope to eat major crow. (btw I am not saying it is Gerhardt who I wanted at 36, I just put him in there to see the result of the poll)

88TG88 04-25-2010 09:42 PM

wtf is going on here

BigMeatballDave 04-26-2010 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 6714041)
HAHAHHAHA

wow...

BCD is Rustshack right? This is a practical joke, correct?

GFY

BigMeatballDave 04-26-2010 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 6714205)
For example can you answer which is a better draft pick:

Ryan Leaf or Charles Woodson


Also apples to oranges but most people can answer the question.

You're a ****ing moron. Considering Leaf sucked and is outta the league, of course its Woodson. This line of questioning is reeruned. Who's the better pick, Jeff George or Ed Reed? See? Stupid...

BigMeatballDave 04-26-2010 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 6714227)
Me? I swear I am not a mult if you are referring to me...I think Rustshack and BCD are though, seriously. I think he logs in BCD and agrees with himself...kind of a self-stroke wack off session.

I am just new, I came from another board that would have kicked me off a long time ago for saying any one of the the things I have said here today alone...

I am in love with CP and it's denizens. This place is the best...I am so addicted.

Me? I've been here since the boards inception. I've never made a mult. Kindly go fist yourself.

Consistent1 04-26-2010 06:00 AM

To me they are both decent picks given where they went.Minn doesn't need a McCluster.They need a guy to take a few carries off of Peterson and be a durable 2nd option.KC needs a shifty guy that can possibly break long catches or runs.Can't really compare the two,and for us Dexter was clearly a better pick.
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Coach 04-26-2010 06:08 AM

Honestly, I think McCluster will have a more productive career than Gerhardt. McCluster is more of a jack-of-all-trades while Gerhardt is more of a traditional FB with probably being a goal-line halfback.

Gerhardt's short-shuttle drill was a 4.25, while McCluster’s was at 4.06. The short shuttle never gets the attention it deserves, but running back (or to a degree, a slot receiver) is a position that’s consistently asked to change directions and accelerate out of breaks. One could even make the case that the short shuttle has much more bearing on a prospect’s chances in the NFL than the 40.

Just for shit and giggles, Darren Sproles' shuttle time was 4.15.

Ming the Merciless 04-26-2010 10:41 AM

Good Knowledge, coach.

Simply Red 04-26-2010 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 6714035)
It was in the ****ing question you stupid ignoramus...

Jesus christ.

READ THE ****ING QUESTION



whoa, you're quite the talent.

Simply Red 04-26-2010 11:41 AM

I meant 'taint' - you're quite the taint.

Mr. Laz 04-26-2010 12:18 PM

hey ... wait a minute, where did bi-polar go?




:p

RustShack 09-29-2010 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 6713950)
Ok so Gerhardt went with the #51 (we took Arenas with #50).

We took McCkuster with #36.


So which is a better pick? Which back do you see as contributing more to the NFL?

I realize that they are different kinds of backs, so this is a difficult comparison...heck Gerhardt might even end up playing a lot of FB...

To me that makes the question more interesting!

(Poll Coming soon)

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6713956)
Jesus ****!? Why would we want Gerhardt? McCluster was a far better choice.

I still feel like what I said was right, so thanks for the neg rep **** face.

Ming the Merciless 12-27-2010 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6714018)
You know that McCluster is playing WR here right dumb shit?

O Rly?


http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/8...hackfamily.jpg

Wyndex 12-27-2010 04:35 PM

I wish we would have taken someone else over Arenas

He just has not been the return man I anticipated him to be and has only been decent in pass defense

chiefzilla1501 12-27-2010 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyndex (Post 7295794)
I wish we would have taken someone else over Arenas

He just has not been the return man I anticipated him to be and has only been decent in pass defense

As a punt returner, he's been solid. On defense, he's been outstanding in the Nickel.

I agree it was a bit of a reach. But he's living up to the things he was asked to do.

Fansy the Famous Bard 12-27-2010 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyndex (Post 7295794)
I wish we would have taken someone else over Arenas

He just has not been the return man I anticipated him to be and has only been decent in pass defense

wut? Arenas has been a great pick.

BigMeatballDave 12-27-2010 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyndex (Post 7295794)
I wish we would have taken someone else over Arenas

He just has not been the return man I anticipated him to be and has only been decent in pass defense

:rolleyes:

Ming the Merciless 12-27-2010 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 7295811)
wut? Arenas has been a great pick.

Also dex was a more costly pick in that it was a higher pick and more quality players were still on the big board.

Arenas doesn't bug me as a pick at all.....

Bowser 12-27-2010 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyndex (Post 7295794)
I wish we would have taken someone else over Arenas

He just has not been the return man I anticipated him to be and has only been decent in pass defense

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Demonpenz 12-27-2010 04:55 PM

Mcluster has been a dissapointment to everyone, but it is too early to give up on him

Pasta Little Brioni 12-27-2010 04:55 PM

Don't forget that Arenas has been very solid at blitzing as expected.

Mr. Laz 12-27-2010 05:00 PM

Arenas has been the better pick over McCluster so far


The blocking for our kick/punt returns so far has been absolute crap. Arenas toughness has gotten a few yards anyway. Arenas is also starting to show up as a nickle corner.

McCluster has shown very little outside of the td kick return in the 1st game of the season. When he does finally get a head of steam up in the kicking game he almost gets killed by running straight into the nearest 280lb defender.

He finally made someone missed yesterday against the titans and that's supposed to be his specialty. He actually ran a regular WR route and made a catch yesterday too. He's a rookie but still .... hasn't done much considering he was drafted ahead of several 1st rd talent level guys who slid into the 2nd rd because of the great depth in the draft.

WV 12-27-2010 05:11 PM

They both will do about the same.....McCluster isn't able to handle a ton of touches and Gerhart isn't an every down back IMO, so I think they'll be just about equal. McCluster is far more explosive, but so is his body and that will forever hold back his true potential IMO.

RealSNR 12-27-2010 05:29 PM

****.

White.

Running.

Backs.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-28-2010 12:55 AM

Picking Gerhardt makes no sense it light of Charles/Jones.

McCluster.

SenselessChiefsFan 12-28-2010 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6713971)
Undersized, backup, gadget WR's shouldn't be drafted in the second round./CP

FYP.

Ming the Merciless 08-18-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6714018)
You know that McCluster is playing WR here right dumb shit?

Oh rly? Thx for the "insight" bro.

http://wcatnews.files.wordpress.com/...3/reerun-1.jpg

RealSNR 08-18-2011 03:11 PM

I was right about Toby Gerhardt

Ming the Merciless 12-31-2011 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 6714024)
BOTH will be playing COMPLETELY DIFFERENT POSITIONS. How often will Gerhardt be catching passes in the slot?

LOL how often was Dexter doing that???

Bump 01-01-2012 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6713958)
Gerhart is a FB, McCluster is a WR. Which one is more important you dumb shit?

wow, this dude went on a rage about how great DMC was going to be as a WR and calling everyone names in the process. What a dumbshit, lol.

Hammock Parties 01-01-2012 12:14 AM

Toby had a 67 yard run this year.

I'm willing to bet McBuster NEVER has a 50-yard run in the NFL.

Hell, Toby averaged more yards per reception. LOL

Hammock Parties 01-01-2012 12:18 AM

Toby Gerhardt:

218 career touches, 5 TD, 3 fumbles

Dexter McBuster:

253 career touches, 3 TD, 6 fumbles

Ming the Merciless 01-01-2012 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 6714036)
You are an idiot. Your opening thread says you realize they are different types of BACKS! McCluster won't be a back, he will be a WR who may occasionally line up as a RB or QB. You dumb ****!

herp derp

Ming the Merciless 01-01-2012 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6714058)
Hes to small to play RB in the NFL. Hes smaller than Charles. Like usual, this doucher has now idea what hes talking about and has never watched either player play.

herka derka

Ming the Merciless 01-01-2012 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6714099)
These 2 guys really aren't comparable at all, the Chiefs aren't even listing McCluster as a RB.

herp derp

Ming the Merciless 08-13-2014 04:44 PM

SO, looks like Toby is getting paid 10 million bucks to replace MJD over in JAX...

Lets take a look at their stats so far (pre 2014) after 4 seasons


McCluster


58 Games Played - 172 Receptions for 1500 yards (8.7 Avg)& 5 TD, 152 rushes for 662 yards (4.3/A) & 1 TD, 10 fumbles, 2162 total yards from scrimmage

ALso about 1000 punt return yards (3tds) and 1000 kickoff return yards (12 yards per P and 20 yards per KR)


Toby Gerhart

61 games, 276 Rushes for 1300 yards (4.7/A) with 5 TD, 77 receptions for 600 yds (7.8 Y/R) with 3 tds, 7 fumbles

7 KR for a buck

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So, now that Toby is with Jax and McBusta is with Tenn...the battle rages on and this question looms large in all of our minds...

What will happen this season?

What say you?

Ming the Merciless 08-13-2014 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6713956)
Jesus ****!? Why would we want Gerhardt? McCluster was a far better choice.


ROFL

Pasta Little Brioni 08-13-2014 04:48 PM

I predict a naked pawn in Toby's bed by the end of training camp

Ming the Merciless 08-13-2014 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WV (Post 7295869)
They both will do about the same.....McCluster isn't able to handle a ton of touches and Gerhart isn't an every down back IMO, so I think they'll be just about equal. McCluster is far more explosive, but so is his body and that will forever hold back his true potential IMO.

so far this is about the best post ive seen....(stats up to 2013)

But things might change in next couple seasons...

Canofbier 08-13-2014 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 10816077)
SO, looks like Toby is getting paid 10 million bucks to replace MJD over in JAX...

Lets take a look at their stats so far (pre 2014) after 4 seasons


McCluster


58 Games Played - 172 Receptions for 1500 yards (8.7 Avg)& 5 TD, 152 rushes for 662 yards (4.3/A) & 1 TD, 10 fumbles, 2162 total yards from scrimmage

ALso about 1000 punt return yards (3tds) and 1000 kickoff return yards (12 yards per P and 20 yards per KR)


Toby Gerhart

61 games, 276 Rushes for 1300 yards (4.7/A) with 5 TD, 77 receptions for 600 yds (7.8 Y/R) with 3 tds, 7 fumbles

7 KR for a buck

-----------------------------------------------------
So, now that Toby is with Jax and McBusta is with Tenn...the battle rages on and this question looms large in all of our minds...

What will happen this season?

What say you?

McCluster is a role-player to be sure, but so too is Gerhart (to this point). I'd be surprised to see the latter replicate his success in Jacksonville.

MahiMike 08-13-2014 05:45 PM

Gerhart will get almost as many carries as Adrian Peterson but I don't expect much more than 3 yards per carry.

Ming the Merciless 08-13-2014 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 10816238)
Gerhart will get almost as many carries as Adrian Peterson but I don't expect much more than 3 yards per carry.

Well he averages a healthy 4.7 over 4 seasons.....

It would seem he should be able to at least break 4

Marcellus 08-13-2014 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 10816077)
SO, looks like Toby is getting paid 10 million bucks to replace MJD over in JAX...

Lets take a look at their stats so far (pre 2014) after 4 seasons


McCluster


58 Games Played - 172 Receptions for 1500 yards (8.7 Avg)& 5 TD, 152 rushes for 662 yards (4.3/A) & 1 TD, 10 fumbles, 2162 total yards from scrimmage

ALso about 1000 punt return yards (3tds) and 1000 kickoff return yards (12 yards per P and 20 yards per KR)


Toby Gerhart

61 games, 276 Rushes for 1300 yards (4.7/A) with 5 TD, 77 receptions for 600 yds (7.8 Y/R) with 3 tds, 7 fumbles

7 KR for a buck

-----------------------------------------------------
So, now that Toby is with Jax and McBusta is with Tenn...the battle rages on and this question looms large in all of our minds...

What will happen this season?

What say you?

You are going to lose this. Gerhart is basically a FB.

Marcellus 08-13-2014 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 10816244)
Well he averages a healthy 4.7 over 4 seasons.....

It would seem he should be able to at least break 4

65 carries a season after AP wore em down.

Easy 6 08-13-2014 06:06 PM

Having some hindsight to look at this with, the answer is Dex... he's far more versatile.

He didnt make All-Pro for nothing... his peers, not the fans, voted him that.

Gerhardts a tank who seems to be getting better with age, but he isnt as valuable or versatile.

Hammock Parties 08-13-2014 06:09 PM

Versatile my ass. He's a shit offensive player. You aren't versatile when you're that.

Easy 6 08-13-2014 07:09 PM

All Pro > count zarth

Gerhardt at his dreaming best is an Alstott impersonator, if thats your football opinion then yeah, well...

Gadzooks 08-13-2014 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 10816471)
All Pro > count zarth

Gerhardt at his dreaming best is an Alstott impersonator, if thats your football opinion then yeah, well...

I think you guy's fixed the Pro Bowl. Just waiting for the evidence to come out...


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