I'll probably be okay as long as it's not before 6pm CST. I know Buck won't be able to do that though.

Evening I'm good with, but we're looking at late night to an early morning ending.
90 seconds per pick x 22 rounds x 12 teams = a possibility of 6.6 hours. I know that in the first couple of rounds it shouldn't be a big issue, but history tells me that nearer the end of the draft most teams will use most of the clock.
A five hour draft is not out of the question. That would have an end time of 1am Central with the current settings.

I haven't set any of the roster settings in stone though. I would like to do the IDP thing since I've never done one and would like to try it, but if people want to cut down on the time of this thing, we could cut down on that some.

Do me a favor, and post what dates/times WON'T work for you, and I'll do my best to find a time that works for most people.

I can't do Sunday August 30th, unless it's a late starting draft (8:00 CDT at the earliest)

IF it would help I'll do it on the 29th (though I already have one draft and one auction going on that day, I can do two at once).
Any other date is OK, but I would prefer to start no later than 6pm regardless of the date. As noted above, we're likely looking at 5+ hours.

of course the 29th is also the KC vs Seattle game, so that might be a turn-off to that time/date for some.

Monday, Tuesday after 7:30 pm, Sundays after 7.

That's what will work or won't work?

sorry those are times wont work, meaning any time before 7:30 monday and Tuesday wont work

I started these fantasy leagues' last year & haven't participated in a draft yet & have ended up with decent teams.

Try as you might you're not gonna make everyone happy. Set a time & those of us who can't make it, make sure to rank your playa's. :shrug:

If its on a weeknight, and before 6pm Pacific time, I'm not able to do it, bottom line.

If I'm not drafting live, I dont want to be in the league.

Well, hopefully everyone in the league doesn't feel that way, because there's no way to find a time that will work for everyone.

For clarification is that on a weeknight before 6pm or any day before 6pm PST?

Weekend I can do anytime or I can do 6pm Pacific or later on any weeknight.

IF you did a weekday/night, Tuesdays or Wednesdays are great for me...anytime,

The rest of the week I work till 10pm cst (9pm here), but can get off if I have to.
Any late morning early after noon is good for me also. But I can manage to work around most anything, It's good to be one of the bosses :D

I know a couple people are into doing the IDP thing, but if we didn't do IDP, we could cut the draft to 14-16 rounds (depending on how many bench spots). That could theoretically cut the draft time down by 1 hr 48 mins to 2 hrs 24 mins. That puts us more in line for a 3:00 to 3:30 draft and more manageable for an 8 PM start time.

I like the IDP thing, just because I haven't done it before.

As far as my schedule, I typically work a regular 8-5. Most weeknights are free. Weekends are hit or miss.

I'm with Buc, if I can't make the draft, it's just not worth it to play. I have never had even a halfway decent experience pre-ranking, even if I spent a ton of time on it. There's just no way to account for who everyone else is going to take. If there's a run on QB's for example, you could end up with 4 RB's and Kyle Orton.

I'm not too worried about it though, if it works out, great. If not, it looks like there's plenty of people around here willing to take my spot. I appreciate all the work doomy is doing to accommodate everyone, but it's damn near impossible to line up 12 schedules.

everyone acts like the draft is gonna last more than 6 hours, i do about 4-5 leagues a year for the past 8 years and i have never had a draft last more than 2 hours and that includes leagues with IDP's

nobody said it was GOING TO last > 6 hours, but it most likely will last >3.5-4. I don't think I've ever had a 12 team draft go in under 2 hours, and I've been doing this online (will only speak about online, as live drafts tend to run longer) for about 15 years. You must have tons of folks on auto pick.

nope most drafts i do have most of the people there, there is no way it would take 3.5-4 hours unless most of the people take up their whole time every time they pick. Most of the drafts i do, every one usually make their pick in the first minute.

30 second clock?

12 teams and 20 rounds even at 30 seconds per pick is still 2 hours, and more often than not a team takes >30 seconds to pick

its usually a 90 second clock, but just because you have a 90 second clock dont mean you take the whole 90 seconds. Most people usually pick between the first 30-60 seconds

If most pick between 30 and 60 (say 40 on average, since that' would be on the low end of the scale), with 12 teams and 20 rounds, then the draft would last 2 hours and 40 minutes, not under 2 hours as you previously stated.

Updates (I also just sent a PM with payment instructions)

Draft Date finalized for Sunday September 6. From what I could tell, no one really had a problem with that date. I did move it one hour earlier, so it will start at 7:00 PM CDT so hopefully we end a little earlier. Worse case though, if you need to get out when the draft is still going on, you can get through the first part and then autodraft after that.

Payment for the league due by August 30, but try to get it in as soon as possible. Also, please shoot me a PM and let me know how you will be paying.

League Payouts will be:

First Place: $200
Second Place: $75
Third Place; $25

I'm not done tweaking scoring yet, so if there is anything on the site that you would like for me to look at, please let me know.

I am plugging everyone's email addresses into this right now, so you should receive an email here in a bit with the random draft order. I guess that's how it works anyway. Check your email that you used to sigh up for the league here in a bit.

I will also update this thread with the order, and will also update the thread starter and league page.

One other thing I see that jumps at me on further review: 2 weeks per round in the playoffs will mean that the Championship game (1/2 of it anyway) will be played in week 17 when many teams will likely be resting starters for the playoffs.
Was that intentional?

I haven't gotten an email yet, and also I vote no on week 17, if we are voting.

It's really 6 of one/half a dozen of the other to me, just curious.

No E-mail for me either....C'mon Doomy, now you've got us all ramped up to know where we draft.

Yeah week 17 affects everyone, but if it must be, then it must be. I've never done a 2 weeks per playoff round. That should be fun.

I've done the 2 weeks per round, but not in week 17....that league had an odd setup though:
12 teams - one division
six teams to the playoffs - top two receive byes
play each team once for a 11-week regular season
Wildcard round was week 12
Semi-Final was 13-14
Final was 15-16

No, I just haven't adjusted the schedule yet. There won't be any matchups in week 17. I'll get to that here shortly.


As far as the draft order and emails, I am still waiting on email addresses for a couple people, so if you got a PM from me asking for your email address and haven't responded yet, we are all waiting for you.

I can't do anything until I can plug everyone's email address into the generator.

OK, we were only waiting for an email address from "whoarethechefs," but since everyone is waiting, I am just going to type in my other email address, chad@cmd-sales.com for that team. That team name is Tuscon Cactus Pricks for everyone's info.

So, all that to say, the email addresses and team names have been entered, and I will be hitting submit as soon as I finish this post.

Look for the email with drafting order in a minute or so.

I will also be updating the thread starter and the ESPN site.

1 - NW Chiefs Fan
2 - Mr. Flopnuts
3 - Team Houtteman
4 - Poon Rockers
5 - Buckin Kaeding
6 - Yellow Brick Roadkill
7 - Haley's Comets
8 - 22 Guys Off The Street
9 - Tuscon Cactus Pricks
10 - Wichita Ball Busters
11 - JOhn Trailer Trash
12 - Arrowhead Reds

Pretty good opening pick for me. I still haven't signed up in the league. I've been incredibly busy, and the 4 people on this site who read my posts can attest as I have made 6 posts in the last 5-6 days. I promise I'm in, I'll get signed up, and I'll send payment here very shortly.

Cool....in my other two money leagues, I'm #1 and #11.....I guess #6 gives me a new place to mock from.

111 Posts since the beginning of the day 8/6/06.

:evil::evil::evil:

Really? How did you find that? That's the last week. I'd be curious to see how many I've had since, say, 08/08/09. I'll bet it's a fraction of that, never know though. Maybe a light day for me is 15 posts a day.

I clicked on your name and clicked find more posts by Mr. Flopnuts

will send money via paypal today

Bump for more payments...

I don't use paypal anymore, will snail mail it. Going out tommrow

Come on people pay up so I can take your freakin money when it is all over. Doomy you of all people should be marked at paid! Come on now! :kc:

Sent mine out yesterday, you should have it by the weekend.

I should be sending mine out today

Still waiting on payment from many...

Haven't heard from Hootie in quite some time, and he hasn't replied to any of my recent PMs...

WTF

My bad.

Fixed.

If Hootie isn't wanting in, for some reason, I might be willing to take his place.

If he doesn't reply to this thread or any of my PMs by the end of the day, you're in if you want it.

I think you need to set a deadline for money. Its been a couple weeks now.

It says right in the message above that the deadline for payment is August 30.

Hootie and whoarethechefs are the only 2 I think that haven't let me know how/when they plan to make payment.

I agree with a deadline, but it hasn't been a "couple weeks".....it has been eight days since he sent payment instructions and PM's.

Yep, and I received your payment in the mail yesterday, BTW.

Ummmm....I always round up?

Hey Whats that over there -------------->

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DAMNIT!

Payment received from Mr. Flopnuts...

Still waiting on payment from a few.

Payment due this Friday. Still waiting on payment from Hootie, whoarethechefs, JOhn, and Monty

Payment received from Monty...

Payment received from whoarethechefs...

Payment due Friday from JOhn and Hootie

Alright, JOhn PM'd me today and bailed.

So, everyone welcome the newest member, DeezNutz.

John, was it your mojo that caused you, now me, to be drafting #11?

Oh DeezNutz is in now? Ok, I'm out.

I understand I'm quite skilled at all things FF, but give yourself a little credit, brah.

Just kidding. PS, I'm coming after your Yeti Pentathalon trophy!

I will paypal my $25 as soon as my new debit card comes in...had to switch bank accounts with my move...should be coming in any day now.

Alright, another owner change.

DeezNutz had to back out, so to take his place is CosmicPal.

CosmicPal, welcome to the league.

Still waiting on payment from Hootie...

So is it 7 am or 7 pm next sunday?

Seriously?

7 PM CDT.

I'm considering finding a replacement for Hootie because he still hasn't paid, and I have sent him a couple PMs about it with no response.

What say you?

He has had enough time to pay...move on to the next guy

Yeah, next guys up.

Sorta sucks that someone knows they are getting into the league w/ the 3rd pick, but I guess thats how it has to work.

I sent a PM to Pittsie to see if he wants to take Hootie's spot. I'll let everyone know when I hear something.

That or move the new guy to last and eveyone up a slot.

If you decided to get rid of the IDP, I may be interested, and would be willing to take the 12th pick. As well as decide and pay this evening.

scared to pick defensive players?

That sounds like a good idea, except give everyone the option. For instance, ask #4 if he wants to move to 3? If yes, move him up then ask #5 if he wants 4, etc...

Waste of time.

I'm already in 3 leagues, which are very competitive. Last thing I need is to waste time researching IDP's for the draft, and then scouring the waiver wire during the season.

But to each his own.

Enjoy.

Its not that bad, i prefer IDP leagues

OK, found someone to take Hootie's spot.

Barret, a member since 2004 on this board, will be playing instead. He has already sent his payment via paypal, and we now have a full league.

I moved Barret to the #12 spot in the drafting order. If anyone who was at number 4 or below DID NOT want to move up a slot, then please let me know and I will readjust the order. Thanks.