That's what I told your Mom.

thought you were a jags fan, tard.

I certainly am. I just can't get over that yall were going to give your firstborn for the guy and are now tripping over yourselves to convince yourselves he won't do anything when he chooses another team. It's comical, and I'm adding to the fire.

If my mom was a hog I'd believe you.

you know if I have to trust a man to stand behind me, while I bend over, and put his hands between my legs...
I think saying nice things about him is a good idea

so 2nd cousin close?

Those pictures are exactly what Peyton was trying to hide through the whole process.

His throwing arm is easily half the size it was when he played last.

His arm strength isnt what it used to be.

I know I'm just trying to look at the bright side of this, but I see a guy that might be the next Carson Palmer.

He will throw at least 20 picks next year because his mind is gonna think he can "make that throw"...but his body cant.

For the record, I've been saying for months now that the dude has arm atrophy and it's amazing people are falling over themselves for him... although I do think he is such a hard worker he can come back and play, I'm sure. He'll make the best of what he has. But I also think the odds are very slim we're talking about Super Bowl champion QB Peyton Manning this time next year.

watch that brush you're painting with, you're using mighty wide brush strokes. not all of us say he's not going to do anything; scares the **** out of me, but I'm a chiefs fan. I'm used to failure, and I'm pretty damned confident in the fact that the chiefs will continue to **** me over for the foreseeable future.

dude looks skinny and frail as ****

Honestly, I think my stance on the whole Peyton thing would have been different if I knew his throwing arm looked like an 80 year old mans and there is talk that he doesnt have all of his arm back.

Just like Carson Palmer.

Screw Denver. Screw Manning. Jesus can we move on?

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No, you were blinded just like everyone else that 2005 Manning might walk out there. The talk has been there for months. Everyone just ignored it. Not just Chiefs fans... everyone. People close to him thought he was going to retire. So did Gil Brandt... because he just didn't have it. There were reports even two months ago that he was having difficulty gripping the football properly.

That's why he made the PR move of having his doctor "clear" him. If you actually read the statement it said his neck was cleared, and now it's just about getting his arm strength back. But everybody just kind of glazed over that and said "He's back!" Even ESPN was guilty of that.

But before I eat my words, I think he can come back and throw it around the yard a bit... and probably be effective. I don't think he will completely suck. He's too smart, if he can't find his fastball he'll work around it. But I think he might have to knock the rust off. I am not convinced he's going to be out there throwing 50 yard sideline fades like he used to do to Reggie Wayne though.

"Oh yeah...you're looking GOOD Peyton."

http://i40.tinypic.com/34gaql1.jpg

I want them early on the schedule in Denver!

Pretty sure this post is the most well reasoned reading of this situation i've seen anywhere, on any level... national media, local fan board, wherever...

yup...IIRC dude is 6'5"...on size alone he'll be able to throw the ball, just not like his previous ability...his body will remember working out...guess we'll see how hard he hits the gym.

My guess is that Elway would have walked away if it were as dire as many are saying (hoping). Trainers and hitting the gym will help his arm become more cosmetically acceptable.

I think a big part of this had to do with getting out from under Tebow.


You can't look at the pictures and say he doesn't look atrophied. I think he will be fine.

So trainers is code for 'roids? Cause that is the only way he's packing 5 lbs of beef on that arm in 5 months.

he does look unhealthy .. glad we didnt spend the money on him .. but we still got a turd anyway .....

Peanut head, pencil neck, noodle arm.

His brain is gonna say "throw it" and his arm is gonna be like "I don't know about that anymore..."

Same problem with Carson Palmer.

Lots of picks are gonna be thrown by him next year and I bet we get our fair share.

"That guy's pretty good. If you like... six-five, 195-pound quarterbacks with a... lazy ragged arm..."

"Is that a kicker?"

ROFL this thread is bookmarked

Except the doctors that did his physicals said he looks in better shape than most 23 year olds.

I call bs . How can he throw with his limp wrist?

So its manning and and a bunch of shit around him. Really nothing to fear.

so he can throw like this? http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=1&theater

I'm personally quite satisfied with the risk to reward ratio here. Also, as much as I like Tebow, he's even more of a gamble than an injured Peyton Manning - don't you think? Would you want to completely revamp your offense, and build your franchise around Tebow, even if you believe that he's incredibly talented? The investment in Peyton Manning means that when Peyton Manning goes down, the franchise chases another traditional quarterback - not easy, but much easier than finding a Tebow replacement if that experiment goes south. And at the end of the day, that's what Tebow is - an experiment.

I love Tim Tebow, but I'd rather watch and root for that experiment from the outside looking in. It's certainly better for my blood pressure.

I'd be happy to have Demaryius Thomas and Eric Decker back when Elway was quarterback. I think Thomas has more natural talent than Rod Smith - and quite frankly, I think Eric Decker is a lot more athletic than Eddie McCaffrey was (Decker's hands aren't as sure as Eddie's were, but then again, Eddie didn't have Tebow's funny "spiral" coming at him, so who knows).

Tap the brake just a touch... talent is one thing, hard work, effort and dedication are another. Smith and Ed were top notch and will be tough to beat. Remember the quote that Tebow likes regarding talent and hard work, it personifies Smith and Ed.

...as opposed to 6,778 posts and counting that we could pick and choose from?

now Peyton Manning = Chad Pennington with a better football brain. :D

Dude, that Denver O-line had better protect him well because he's going to break in half when he gets hit.

ROFL

Welcher took over Taco's account.

That dude has a pumpkin for a head.


Fans welcome Manning to Mile High:

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=the+g...1t:429,r:3,s:0

hahahahaha

link???


LMAO i guess 23 year olds are what they used to be.

My guess is that they've seen him throw quite a bit and they're more than happy with what they have seen and convinced his current condition is not a negative. If you heard Manning talk, he mentioned over and over again about getting back into the gym and working with the trainers. Physically, he may not be where he wants to be and he may not look like he used to ... it's March.

Let's see how he looks when training camps get here and they're going into the preseason in July/August. I think he'll look more like everyone expects him to look.

It sounds like he's passing the ball fine and with the zip and accuracy that he's always shown and that's what matters at this point.

You can't judge anything by still photos. I'd rather see video of him throwing...

I'd rather see him in an actual game situation

Latest rumor is that the Broncos may open up SNF with the Steelers in week 1. I don't think I'm a fan of that at all.

Obviously, the last time the Steelers were in Denver, Tebow defeated them. It's going to take a few weeks of live action to work out the kinks with the new offense and I'd really like to not see that defense against Manning in week 1. :harumph:

But, if it sets up like that... so be it. Can't really ask for a stronger test right out of the gate. And, the entire Broncos' nation will be near puking each time Manning drops back and a pass rush ensues.

On Thursday, back in Raleigh, 95 more throws with Cutcliffe. Broncos staff came to watch Friday's 55-pass workout. How did he look? "With Peyton, his release time is important, and that's right on target now," said Cutcliffe. "His velocity is right on. His arm slot is right on. His accuracy's amazing. Obviously I'm close to him, but I've watched him throw for almost 20 years now, and I'm really excited about what I think is going to happen. He's going to be great when he needs to be great."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...23/4/index.htm

For your sake, I hope your O-line coach does a hell of a job in training camp.

Sorry man. The team is going to need him more than the 3 games he plays healthy before he IR's.

You are dead on.

He's like Jason in Friday the 13th. Don't think he's dead. He probably isn't...

coming from you, i dont know if that counts as a compliment or an insult

Yeah, but he loses in the end every time.

God I hope so. Seriously, I do think a diminished Payton Manning is still better than a LOT of QB's in this league, especially ours. He's never shown anything but toughness, smarts and ability. I gotta see him in a game to feel like he's not going to be his old Chief-owning self.

But I DO think that it will take a lot of time for him to even come close to replicating his production that he had in Coltville. First, it was HIS offense which he built over the course of like 13 seasons. It'll be pretty hard to just make that happen in Dungver over night. Second, it's a different world in Dungver, and the AFC West teams play each other tough regardless. I don't think it'll be much like what he's used to.

That's all I got. I hope he struggles mightily and winds up sucking balls. I just don't think that'll be the case.

"the rules of the new Collective Bargaining Agreement, including that he can work out with teammates, but only away from the team’s facilities and outside the watchful eyes of the coaches"

How in the Hell did Harbaugh get go see him? :hmmm:

I really wish we were playing them week 1. Just send Hali Houston and Bailey every play. See how long that neck holds up.
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but dont pay them any money for it because that would be bad

Show a wide screen film on that MF'er's forehead

Break a b*tch neck!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBb35VGOFRY

LMAO You slapdicks feeling a little better now?

Sounds good to me.

In all honesty, I hope we get a good quarterback soon and that Manning returns to his peak form so there will be some prime matchups like Montana/Elway from back in the day.

Good times... good times.

Peyton = Jamie Moyer, LOL.

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/...ringhouse.html

The Donks are probably going to open the season on Sunday Night Football against the Steelers.

Yeah, I'd rather that NOT be the first team they play for many reasons.

They would straight up embarrass Peyton.

They already surely want revenge for the playoff game and Manning won't be close to ready at that point.

I just hope we get first crack at him.

A comparable case is that of Chris Weinke, who went through the same type of nerve damage and regeneration while he was in his mid-20s at Florida State. Weinke told me he actually came back improved.

"You focus on the little muscles," he said. "You rebuild yourself really from ground zero, because of the atrophy, and when I came back, fundamentally I was better, I was stronger, and actually threw the ball with more velocity after the surgery than I did prior."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...content_stream

That worked wonders for his NFL career.

That's just who I'd want to be compared to. :D

Haha Chris weinke.

I can throw a better ball then Weinke.

Then play the next 5 on MNF...it's gonna be a long season in that every time you trun on a game in prime time, you will probably see them. I just hope they suck ass. They're not a good team. However, they have one of the best QB's of all time. Kudos to Elway for realizing their QB SUCKED and doing something about it early. Made them division favorites and instant contenders. I love the "win now" approach. Just pissed that Elway still gets the chance to ruin my Sundays.

He looks like that smartass from Tales from the Crypt, that little Cryptkeeper dude....

Welcher.

Strong Forehead

So, Cassel>Manning is KnoMo?

oh, nevermind. I've apparently forgotten how to post pictures.

Is this what you meant?

http://it.bentley.edu/GAMIO_SAMA/Images/grapejelly.jpg

"He could play a game. We've done it, we've simulated games, and he's done well. He's going to do nothing but get stronger and going to play up to his standards," Cutcliffe said Thursday in a phone interview with The Denver Post. "I know that's his goal, and there isn't any reason, there is no indicator otherwise."

"He can make all the throws, his release times are perfect, and we pay a lot of attention to that. It's arm speed and getting rid of it. His velocity is good. It's just a matter of, like any other NFL football player, you've got to feel good," Cutcliffe said. "He's in great shape. Not good shape, great shape, and that's part of what we did here as well."

Manning picked the Broncos on March 19 and signed a five-year contract worth up to $96 million a day later.

Since joining the Broncos, Manning has remained in Denver and he has begun working out at a local high school with teammates Eric Decker, Julius Thomas and J.D. Walton. Manning is continuing his neck rehab at Dove Valley with Broncos head trainer Steve Antonopulos and strength coach Luke Richesson.

http://www.denverpost.com/manning-good-to-go-says-cutcliffe

:cuss:

Sweet. Simulated games.

CHAMPIONSHIP!

We'll know once the live rounds start flying and not a minute before.

I hope Manning works out and we beat his ass twice this year.

If we can't beat him twice I want to beat him in week 17 and send his Donkey ass home.

Translation:

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