al pacino as hc fox at qb wed be unstoppable

And Devon Sawa

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I created a thread for this very thing and had shit flung at me.

NOBODY is going to want to come here in 2013 if pioli keeps his job... NOBODY.

Please God, make Clark see the light.

I know this and that is why I don't understand why Pioli invested a several players who are inconsistant and aren't leaders.

This team's "core" players were never leaders. That's part of the problem.
You can't tell me that guys like Flowers and DJ weren't asked to lead this team when they got their second contracts.

You can say what you want to but, KC only goes where Jamaal Charles goes. If he plays well, we have a shot. If he doesn't, we lose. It's much more than the coach, the QB, or the GM.

It's also the rest of the players and the talent level.

The only guys that might be here when we make it somewhere someday are Houston and Berry imo.

Not true. Plenty of guys like the ones we have will want to come. The ones that are about the money.

Pioli invested in inconsistant players. DJ, Flowers, and Bowe are/were inconsistant. All he and Clark talked about was consistancy and Pioli resigned those guys. That's a big part of our problem imo.

Flowers gets hurt and either misses or comes out of games every year. The guy that walked has never missed a game. There have been multiple games where Flowers was specifically targeted at the end. I'm not going to get into too much but he is overrated by Chiefs fans and I'll leave it at that. He's not consistant and he's not a leader.

I doubt it will happen but I hope Pioli gets fired ASAP. Then, the media will turn it's attention to some of the quitters on the field.

Could we fit that article on a banner?

Good points...

He might have asked them to be leaders, but he might as well have asked rain to not be wet.

You can't ask for leadership from people who aren't leaders.
It simply isn't going to work.

If he did ask, and actually expected to get leadership from those guys, then he's a BlackBob level moron.

Do you even think of what it is you are saying when you post?

Do you not understand, at least somewhere in that useless lump of coal that resides inside your head that the implications of what you just said are exactly an indictment of the QB position?

This.

Premium!

He tried to trade DJ and Bowe in 2009. If you were a GM who was "building your franchise on consistancy," why would you re-sign and franchise players that you tried to trade in your first year on the job? Guys you tried to trade because they were inconsistant? Furthermore, he tried to trade them for cheap and no one wanted them. What does that say?

This is the biggest headscratcher with Pioli to me. They are both as inconsistant as ever. They just make more money.

Also, it's far more than the QB position. We don't have enough players with talent that care. It's not just the coach, the GM, and the QB. It's the rest of the god damn team too.

The sooner Pioli gets fired, the sooner the media starts pointing the finger at the players.

I will no longer be a Chiefs fan if we draft Matt ****in Barkley

Great, I hope we draft him then....

You keep talking about how Haley wasted years of your life.

DJ and Bowe were inconsistent before, and it would make some sense to trade them.

But under Haley they played with a level of consistency that they had not played with before, and are not playing with now.

You say that you've been a fan for 37 years, and I really admire you inability to learn anything in those 37 years.

Accountability is required to get the most out of a team.

Haley demanded acountability, and the results were that he got consistent play from those guys.

Player's coaches never get those results.

I am not surprised that Romeo is getting the results from this team that he's getting.

The only surprise is that he's managed to get these results so quickly.

You don't seem to understand. This is full-revolt. NO ONE wants to perform for Pissholi and his crack staff of crack smokers. Pissholi puts Cassel on the field, and the team says, "you know what? **** YOU. I'm done".

Guys like Flowers and DJ and Bowe, who were brought here by Herm, are well aware that KC is a great place to play with great fans. They are also aware that Scott Pissholi has completely scuttled the Arrowhead Boat, and they are ****ing fed up with it.

You can shout "contracts"! and "professionalism"! all ****ing day long Mr Upchuck, but the fact that these guys are 100% in tune with those of us who want to build a real team and win BIG long-term makes them the most cuddly mother****ers to ever put on a helmet in my book.

Source?

The damage was done originally by Vermeil. He had to have veteran players. He wanted nothing to do with young players. Then Herm blew the whole thing up and Pioli has not been able to get talent back on the team via the draft. Which is what they stated they wanted to do.

Not for you. If you don't remember, it says alot. Go write us something about how Allen Bailey is going to save the day now that Dorsey is on IR. Or, maybe even the obvious thread about how we should change to a one gap defense.

Last season's 3-game "We love Romeo" bullshit blinded a lot of people.

They would have lost two of those games instead of just one if Cassel had been under center.

Maybe even all three, because Cassel was beaten by Tebow once already that year.

Romeo should mail Kyle Orton a check for a million bucks as thanks for the extra retirement fund.

QB is not that important.

1. You don't know that.

2. They are professionals and it is their job to play football to the best of their ability.

3. The players on this team probably hate your guts at this point in time.

LMAO

I'm sure they're loving yours. Moran.

Nah, it is their current job to piss you off. Job well done!

ROFL if you think Barkley is this team's savior.

You'll recall, in the debate between you and I regarding Jeff Fisher, I said that the reason I would rather hire Crennel over Fisher is that Fisher would assure us mediocrity for the next decade or more, while Romeo's failure would at least offer us hope for the future when he was fired.

As I said, I expected this.

I am only surprised at how quickly these players stopped responding.

ROFL, so you're admitting to being a lying sack of shit? You worthless ****ing afterbirth.

Edit: Alot isn't a word, you inbred pillow-biter.

To an extent I agree but, no, I don't really think Haley made them better.

They were both playing for second contacts imo. Bowe has always been about the money. He asked for a contract after Indy last year. He has a superior performance against crap and asks for money. It's the same thing as you kid laying on the couch all week and then asking for $20 after he takes out the trash imo.

Look what happened after the trade threat

I honestly don't think Haley ever liked Bowe either. He didn't even stick up for him about the alligotor arms incident which makes me think he thought Bowe pussed out. Even when he was directly asked about it, he declined to answer.

:facepalm:

And Bowe, you dipshit, is still playing for his second contract.

:spock:

Correcting spelling is a good job for you.

Yes he is and that's why he didn't get a contract. If he had, he would be even worse than he is right now.

However, he did get franchised and I don't get that. Pioli knew who he was and he shouldn't have done that imo.

He is all about the money. He is motivated by money. You watch, he is going to be a free agent dud in 2013.

Oh cool so you just fixed his contract. Just make it all about incentives.

Oh wait what are the turds that he has had throwing him the ball his entire career.

Some would void their contracts just to get away from the current regime. You bet the problem is the players. You know they are all about money. They don't really want to win. They just want money.

Good luck getting his agent to go for that. Someone will make a big mistake and pay him.

well, we will be sure to consult you and get your feedback prior to the selectionROFL

Read it now. Fricking touchpad on my laptop submited before I was done.

Never said that. Just with your history of posts, if someone does the opposite of what you say, it usually turns out for the better...

Here's what I'm getting from this.

Haley had nothing to do with Bowe's improved consistency.

It was all about playing for the second contract.

But his play has regressed this year, even though he is still playing for that second contract.

But it would be worse, but because he is still playing for a second contract.

The fact that his play improved while Haley was here, and has regressed without the presence of Haley is purely coincidental.

It's all so clear to me now.

Morons are insulted by the fact that I called you a moron.

Even morons aren't this stupid.

As bad as we had it in oakland our players didn't implode like KC is doing now. I've never seen it so bad.

Milkman, He's not getting open. I have talked about it all year. Also, the QBs we have now are better than palko.

last, if it makes you feel better to say that Haley made him good, that is fine with me. This time next year we will finally be rid of Haley and Bowe FOR GOOD.

It's time to trim the fat.

Such a feel good article

no reason to be nasty

But it is a contract year.

You e talked about it all yea. And have been shown gifs and pics where he's wide open and not thrown an accurate ball

...and he is getting paid $600,000 a game.

I don't care what you have talked about all year.

If you told me my feet have 5 toes each, I would have to count to verify.

You're a ****ing moron.

I've seen play after play that Bowe has been open.

And that's just what I can see from the TV.

The bottum line to all of this is that we won't really know until we have a different, better, QB along with a coach and FO that doesn't make players, and fans want to quit on the team as a whole. Which is where we currently are.

But he only played better because it is a contract year before.

No, he has been one on one all year. Teams stack the box constantly. The QBs look at him first every play.

Are you really telling me the same QB who threw him 15 TDs in a season can't get him the ball when he's open? That is bullshit. Cassel sucks bad but, Bowe isn't open either.

Can someone remind me when DJ signed his contract?

for once, I completely agree with you.

http://arrowheadaddict.com/2010/11/0...sons-contract/

This article was put out November 8th, 2010. So the first week of November.

It was a 5 yr. $34 mil with $15 guaranteed.

Shocking.

I thought as much.

So, DJ, another player that bob cites as a guy just playing for a contract, has his best year the year following his signing contract.

But Haley had nothing to do with it.

It was all about the second contract.

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You mean that same QB that had horrible years before that ONE year and a couple of horrible years since.

While that same WR has put up good numbers every year before and since with different QBs that all sucked as well.

Hey Mods can we change his name to Defense Mechanism?
He fits all of the major psychological mechanisms:
Repression
Regression
Displacement
Rationalization
Denial
Projection
Sublimation
Reaction Formation

:eek:

i thought i saw that Haley was let go with cause and therefore not owed any of the balance of his deal?

Now there's 3 or 4 threads about how Hunt hasn't paid him the balance?

he was fired with cause, but the nfl found no cause. So they owe him.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Their choice to run the team. :shrug:

I call bullshit. Next.

That's because you dumbasses don't care about winning or even losing. You just care about looking tough in your silver and black and shooting people. 8-8 swag.

It certainly is, starting with you.

Ohhhh, **** it all!

Well then, f that 404 link anyhow.

Good for Flowers. I'd be looking for a life raft too.

Wow. Wonder why they took it down. They didn't delete the tweet linking to the story.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ProFootba...4448701440?p=v

Your mom still sucking farts out of the cat and letting your uncle ATM her?

That bitch is disgusting.

ROFLROFLROFL OMG U R FAIL.

Shit...he owes you $275 for the analysis.

"It's not just the QB"

-Dickstain Cumpants

lol. FAIL

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAH

I thought he looked like shit. Oh well, his days as a Chief are numbered either way. I liked the drop, the puss out drop when Ryan Clark was coming, and most of all the taunt that was called back because the ****er deserved the bad karma he got.


He is covered 90% of the time unless it's a comeback or a curl. When he is open, he drops it half the time.

It is pretty sad when your "franchise player" plays like that. Gruden nailed it.

the only thing Gruden nailed was your mouth with his cock
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No we have Hali and Houston. Playing with a lead is what helps the pass rush.Our terrible offense is what hurts this defense. Get a god dam lead and stop turning the ball over 5 times a game and this defense would play good enough to win some games.

okay, but that's a blitz when both players are pass rushing. That is 5 players doing what 4 players should be able to do, and even 3 players should be able to pass rush in this defense when you have good players.

But hey, if that's what works then it's better than the BS defense these players have been showing. But you can't win big games rolling the blitz out all day. Not against good QB's you can't.

I love how every internet argument has someone pointing out a misspelling or punctuation error, which leads to the obligatory "Are you the grammar police?". I've seen it so many times lol.

That's pretty much how you do beat good QB's...