I'd rather it be McCoy or Rice.

Yeah, but based on who is in front of you, I doubt it.

So, you're telling me there are not idiots capable of taking a questionable player before me?

I want out.

Too late. I have your mone..... Wait, send me your money.

I sure wish Aaron Rodgers would fall to me too.

Surely someone isn't stupid enough to take him #1 overall.

Watch..

The weekend I'm in Green Bay I'll be facing you in FF.

Rodgers will go for 520yds and 6 TDs.

I'll get to witness the FF raping first hand.

lol. My gut keeps saying "No! Take a RB. You have to have a top RB!" But my mind is saying "Dumbass. It's QB heavy league. You won't have worry about another QB until Round 10+."

RB
David Wilson
James Starks
Shane Vereen
Ryan Williams
Mike Goodson
Jaquizz Rodgers
Kendall Hunter
Mike LeShoure
Isiah Pead
Delonte Carter
Robert Turbin
Ronnie Hillman

WR
Sidney Rice
Rueben Randall
Nate Bureleson
Leonard Hankerson
Brian Quick
Brandon Lafell
Plax
Randall Cobb
Vincent Brown
Austin Collie
Braylon Edwards
Doug Baldwin
Davone Bess


Kendall Wright was just sitting in FA and I snatched him up for a stash, for what it is worth. In terms of WR the only adds I could see being worth it are maybe Austin Collie and or Davone Bess? Isnt Bess Miami's #1 WR currently with Johnson being cut?

it's a really weird league

i was looking at the last season scoring and Cam Newton had 443 points and the closest RB was Shady McCoy with 287

I just find that to be a bigger gap than normal between QB and WR or RB.

What about Vernon Davis for Shonn Green would you do that? I think that might be an option and I am desperate for a RB.

I'm curious of the scoring. Can you copy and paste it? I want to see how bad it is.

On topic, I despise Shonn Greene. He will get the rock, but he is just not a good running back. Also worried about Tebow taking away his goal line work. I wouldn't do it if I were you.

Would much rather have Brown but like you said you are desperate for RBs so I could understand if you went that route.

Can't believe Collie is available. I would pick him up ASAP. Luck's favorite target so far and was healthy all of last season.

I also like Brown too. I think he will be the WR to own in SD instead of Meachem.

WR is soooooo deep this year. It's crazy.

Here is my opinion (FWIW)...

I'm not sure who you dropped for Kendall Wright....but hopefully it was McCluster.

Find the team that has the worst QB roster or depth (or whichever team has Andrew Luck). Offer him Tebow and Fleener for a RB.

Drop Taiwan Jones and pick up Shane Vereen.
If you have an open spot....pick up either Austin Collie or Brandon LaFell.

Since it's non-ppr....you're looking for RBs that are going to get TDs. Realistically you only need 3 QBs because you're going to usually start Newton and RGIII. You need Cutler for the bye weeks.....and Tebow isn't good enough for an every week start over the other QBs on your roster.

the scoring is very messed up and I still can't wrap my head around what or why. I didn't know the scoring format ( I assumed standard ) until I already paid and showed up to sit down and draft like five minutes before it started and asked to see a scoring sheet. It quickly changed my entire draft strategy very quickly on me trying to interpret it. For goodness sake you get 5 points if the player's team just gets a WIN for the week. That is messed up.


Passing
Passing Yards (PY) 0.05
TD Pass (PTD) 5
40+ yard TD pass bonus (PTD40) 1
50+ yard TD pass bonus (PTD50) 1
Interceptions Thrown (INT) -2
2pt Passing Conversion (2PC) 2
300-399 yard passing game (P300) 1
400+ yard passing game (P400) 2

Rushing
Rushing Yards (RY) 0.1
TD Rush (RTD) 6
40+ yard TD rush bonus (RTD40) 1
2pt Rushing Conversion (2PR) 2
100-199 yard rushing game (RY100) 1
200+ yard rushing game (RY200) 5

Receiving
Receiving Yards (REY) 0.1
TD Reception (RETD) 6
40+ yard TD rec bonus (RETD40) 2
50+ yard TD rec bonus (RETD50) 1
2pt Receiving Conversion (2PRE) 2
100-199 yard receiving game (REY100) 2
200+ yard receiving game (REY200) 2

Miscellaneous
Punt Return Yards (PR) 0.1
Kickoff Return TD (KRTD) 6
Punt Return TD (PRTD) 6
Fumble Recovered for TD (FTD) 6
Total Fumbles Lost (FUML) -2

Head Coach
Team Win (TW) 5

Team Defense / Special Teams
Each Sack (SK) 1
Interception Return TD (INTTD) 6
Fumble Return TD (FRTD) 6
Kickoff Return TD (KRTD) 6
Punt Return TD (PRTD) 6
Blocked Punt or FG return for TD (BLKKRTD) 6
Blocked Punt, PAT or FG (BLKK) 2
Each Interception (INT) 2
Each Fumble Recovered (FR) 2
Each Fumble Forced (FF) 1
Each Safety (SF) 2
0 points allowed (PA0) 5
1-6 points allowed (PA1) 4
7-13 points allowed (PA7) 3
14-17 points allowed (PA14) 1
28-34 points allowed (PA28) -1
35-45 points allowed (PA35) -3
46+ points allowed (PA46) -5
Less than 100 total yards allowed (YA100) 5
100-199 total yards allowed (YA199) 3
200-299 total yards allowed (YA299) 2
350-399 total yards allowed (YA399) -1
400-449 total yards allowed (YA449) -3
450-499 total yards allowed (YA499) -5
500-549 total yards allowed (YA549) -6
550+ total yards allowed (YA550) -7

Team win?!?!?! LOL

That's the worst scoring rule I have ever seen. It pretty much defeats the purpose of fantasy football.

How so?

yep kind of dumb since I have like 1 player on a team that will consistently win and then a bunch of guys that will be on losing teams or sub .500 squads. So I'm screwed there

Because fantasy football is a stats driven game. You draft individual players based on whether you believe they will put up good stats.

The quality of a player's team should have no impact on the outcome of a fantasy football game. And they give 5 points for it??? The same as a passing td??? Garbage.

yep, which is why i needed/asked for help. I made the mistake of joining the league and now just want to try and field a competitive team/not be embarrassed by weirdos that run some crazy scoring league and get my balls busted for it since they are all real life peers.

(i know, get new/smarter friends.)

Also I did just do everything mentioned, there is no waiver wait, but there is only 15 transactions allowed per season, just used 3 of them on Kendall Wright, Shane Vereen and Austin Collie.

Now my team is

QB - Newton, RG3, Cutler, Tebow
RB - BJGE, Helu, Vereen, McCluster
WR - VJax, Garcon, DHB, Baldwin, Collie, Kendall Wright
TE - Gronk, Vern Davis
DEF - Chiefs

i still need to swing a trade or two. But he gives you a deep bench so I can stash depth and hope for the best.

What TEs are available?

I bet Steve Maneri is available!!!!!!!!!!111111

Is Zeron Flemister still available? I bet he'd be good.

Tony Moeaki and Kevin Boss are both available. And turds like Kellen Winslow and guys like Kellen Davis

should I entertain the idea of trading both Gronk and Vernon Davis?

I would start Cutler over RG3 now since I learned of the team win rule. Might have even started him over RG3 anyway but now it's a certainty imo. Bears are sick and the Skins will be awful.

Try to use the rule to your advantage. It's an extra td a week. I would think of trading Newton for someone like Ben and maybe a running back that you desperately need. It's a drop off but with the Steelers being a great team and panthers being mediocre, how much is it really? And if you can add a RB on top of that? No brainer imo.

Or maybe Newton and another player for Brady? The Pats schedule is a joke this year once again. Just throwing ideas out really would need to see other rosters to have more realistic proposals.

The other bonuses are minor and won't happen as much but 5 points is a lot and there's a good chance that it can be rewarded each week for each player. It probably will effect the outcomes of games each week. You have to account for that one and get some players on great teams. Gronk is a good start.

It is draft day!!!!

Picked 7/12 each round. iDP 20 rds.

Megatron
Victor Cruz
Vick
McGahee
Law Firm
Eric Berry
Navarro Bowman
DeAngelo Williams
London Fletcher
Stevan Ridley
Brent Celek
Hayward-Bey
Janikowksi
Tillich
Anquan Boldin
Kyle Arrington
Jon Baldwin
Jacob Tamme
Nick Barnett

I love my WRs and LBs.

Big question mark at RBs though.

Took Kendall Hunter with the 20th pick.

Waiting for someone to tear that apart.

:)

Picked 9/12. Got to keep Ray Rice for my 1st round pick. PPR league.

Jay Cutler, Carson Palmer
Ray Rice, Jamaal Charles, Isaac Redman, LeGarrett Blount, Peyton Hillis
Julio Jones, Steve Smith, Jeremy Maclin, Antonio Brown, Santonio Holmes
Kyle Rudolph
Bills, Vikings
Alex Henery

Good team. Real hard to nitpick. Like it all other than your TE.

Megatron and Cruz are money in the bank. **** Vick. And I like BGE a hell of a lot more than McGahee. The Bengals should move the ball pretty well this year; and he'll get a ton of red zone work.

I was telling a couple of guys I probably waited a round too late for RB.

But, the thought of Megatron, Cruz, WR3 excites me.

Family league this evening. I picked fourth out of ten teams.

Stafford, Cutler
McCoy, Sproles, Stewart, Hillis, DBrown
Bowe, Antonio Brown, Demariyus Thomas, Meachem, DHB, Blackmon
Graham
Bironas
KC D

My work draft is Saturday morning/afternoon. We're a 14-team league that overvalues QBs. I have the 8th pick this year. I expect Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, and Drew Brees to be long gone. It's possible that Matt Stafford and Cam Newton are also gone.

In my preparation I'm trying to decide whether, if available at 8, I would take Cam Newton/Matt Stafford and then at 20 take best available WR/RB (or Gronk) or if I should take a top RB (Arian Foster or Ray Rice) at #8 and then counter with a QB like Schaub/Ryan/Eli/Romo in the 3rd or 4th round. :hmmm:

I may be in the minority here.

But, I really, really like Schaub. I know he's coming off an injury but that offense is still electric.

Plus, in most leagues, he's still there between round 7-9.

However, I'm not sure how long he'd last in a QB heavy league like yours.

Assuming there is no really wonky scoring or lineup settings in the league, I would definitely go with option "B"

I could use some help on this one. I was just offered a trade. Leaning towards not taking it but want another opinion.

I get:
Sam Bradford
Greg Jennings
Ryan Matthews

I give:
Eli Manning
Stevan Ridley

I have Ahmad Bradshaw and Matt Forte as my starting RBs so I could hide Matthews until he gets healthy. My starting receivers are DeSean Jackson, Wes Welker and Percy Harvin. My starting QBs are Eli Manning and Matt Stafford.

What do you think?

I would do it. When would you be starting Eli over Stafford anyways. Plus Jennings is a big improvement over D Jacks.

I have 2 starting qbs.

12 team league. Here is everyone that is starting on my team:

QB Stafford
QB E. Manning
WR Welker
WR D. Jackson
WR Harvin
RB Forte
RB Bradshaw
TE Written/ Olsen
W/R S. Ridley
DEF Houston
K Rackers

Snap call. No brainer make the trade.

You're leaning the wrong way

What concerns me is Mathews' injury history.

2 starting QB's? Keep Eli. Not a tough call at all.

Option B

Had the draft for my work league this morning. Miraculously one of the top 6 (top 3 QBs, top 3 RBs) slipped to my pick.

14 teams - pick 8

QB Matt Schaub
RB LeSean McCoy
RB Adrian Peterson
WR Julio Jones
WR Dwayne Bowe
TE Jermaine Gresham
K Billy Cundiff
D Cincinnati
--------
QB Jay Cutler
QB Christian Ponder
RB Donald Brown
RB Cedric Benson
WR Danny Amendola
WR Greg Little
TE Coby Fleener
D Cleveland

10 team league, standard scoring, had the 5th pick. I like it but I don't love it... Tempted to drop someone & pick up David Wilson from the Giants but I'm not sure how many touches he'll get.

QB Cam Newton
RB Trent Richardson
RB Doug Martin
WR Calvin Johnson
WR Jordy Nelson
WR DeSean Jackson
TE Aaron Hernandez
DEF Packers
K Who gives a shit? Succop I think...

BN QB Matt Ryan
BN RB Cedric Benson
BN RB Mark Ingram
BN WR Titus Young
BN WR Greg Little
BN TE Fred Davis

in a 12 team league with 1 point PPR and at pick 9, is Darren Spoles worth taking in the first round?

surely the best players will be gone in the first 8 picks (Megatron, Ray Rice, Arian Foster, etc) and I'm not sure I can justify taking a QB in the first round of a PPR league over whatever RB catches a bunch of dink and dunk passes or WR that catches a lot of balls. (i.e Wes Welker)

Not only no, but hell no. Any of the big 3 at QB is a slam dunk choice over Sproles

Sproles ADP in a PPR with a flex is 2.09 in a 12-team draft

so take him in the 2nd round when it snakes back is what youre saying.

If it were me, I would take Charles in that spot instead, but if you're sold on Sproles, pick #16 (2.04) is your best bet. It's a heck of a reach at #9, but he certainly won't be there at #33.

12 teamed. We start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 W/T, 1 k, 1 D.

I think I killed it. I picked second.

QB - Romo, A. Smith
RB - Foster, Stewart, DeAngel Williams, Helu, Dwyer, Taiwan Jones
WR - Cruz, Welker, Mike Wallace, Garcon, DHB, Bennett, Cribbs
K - Akers
Ravens D.

We also get return points. No ppr. Standard scoring.

All Depends on QB.....kinda like the Chiefs :)

Can't be too unhappy with Romo in round six.

Not a huge fan. Don't hate it, but not a huge fan.

I dislike your top 3 wrs a lot this year. I think Welker has a slide, Cruz may do well, but I have my doubts, and Mike Wallace is going to be a wildcard.

No PPR will help Wallace, but I dislike Welker even more in a non-PPR.

Let me have it...
PPR. Start 3 WRs. 6 points per TD pass. Bonuses at 300 passing, 100 rushing and receiving. Had the 12th pick and kept DeMarco Murray.

QBs - Philip Rivers, Andrew Luck, Christian Ponder
RBs - DeMarco Murray, Doug Martin, Roy Helu, LaGarrette Blount, Bernard Scott, Robert Turbin
WRs - Fitz, Brandon Marshall, Antonio Brown, Pierre Garcon, Danny Amendola, Steve Smith STL, Andre Caldwell
TEs - Jared Cook, Owen Daniels
K - Matt Prater, Randy Bullocks
Def - Ravens

like D Murray and brandon Marshall, and maybe fitz.
dislike, 3 qbs? 2 Kickers and 2 TEs?
22 picks?

I'm no expert though, just my 2 cents. I'll post mine so you can blast me back. Only fair....

12 man, traditional. I picked 12th, I know I'm weak at RBs, maybe a few surprises on the WRs will give me trade bait by week 6.

QB Matt Schaub, Hou QB
RB Matt Forte, Chi RB
RB Jamaal Charles, KC RB P
WR A.J. Green, Cin WR
WR Jordy Nelson, GB WR
TE Fred Davis, Wsh TE
D/ST Steelers D/ST D/ST
K Mason Crosby, GB K
BENCH
Jeremy Maclin, Phi WR
Vincent Jackson, TB WR
Michael Crabtree, SF WR
Alex Smith, SF QB
Mike Tolbert, Car RB
Jonathan Dwyer, Pit RB

Yeah, like CC I don't understand the 3 QBs and 2 kickers unless it is a mandatory roster requirement. I like your WRs a lot. A lot of potential with your RBs too. Rivers scares me. Mainly because he's a headcase.

I'm high on Brandon Marshall and Amendola this year. I like your WRs. Murray should be solid if he stays healthy. Doug Martin could be good, and you have Blount too, just hope they don't share too many carries. I think Helu loses out a lot of touches to Royster. Rivers had a solid 2nd half of the season last year.

The more I look at it and look at the other team's rosters the more I feel as though I killed it. PBJ

I love my WRs. Welker continues to be solid and consistent. I decided i like Wallace a bit more than Brown because it's a contract year. I also really, really like my WR depth. Garcon and DHB are arguably #1/#2 guys on their teams. I also like Cribbs in the 17th with Weeden QBing and return yardage.

Said every guy looking at their own FF line-up ever.

Yep. They are mandatory that we carry 3 QBs and 2 TEs.

I just let Rivers fall to me in the 7th. Peyton Manning went in the 2nd round in this draft, which was absurd to me. Because it's so QB heavy, I took Luck way early because he would be a potential keeper next year and for years to come.

Love my WRs. Never thought Fitz would get to me at 12. Thought Marshall would be gone too. But when idiots take Greg Jennings over Fitz, I'm just letting the shit slide to me.

I guess I'm the wrong person to ask about Welker because 2 years ago, he ****ed me good.

I love Garcon this year. DHB I'll never be sold on, but the upside is clearly there. I just think Brown knows the Haley offense now, and his connection with Ben has been tremendous this preseason.

Getting McCoy at 8 is highway robbery.

Like the squad. Gotta get a new kicker though. Cundiff was cut.

In all three of my leagues QBs have fallen so awkwardly.

I thought Romo in the 6th in my draft last year was a steal. I was eyeing Schaub towards the later rounds -- but I convinced myself I like Romo (even though he can be a knucklehead) and his upside a lot more.

And that sounds like a peculiar roster -- makes sense why you drafted more back up QBs and TEs.

I agree. Wallace was a bit of a gamble. But, really.. Ben throws it to Wallace and Brown. I like Brown a lot too. But, considering MW is in a contract year and is one of the fastest WRs in the league I had to take him.

Welker is a bit of a gamble. But, dude is going to get crazy targets. Every other year in this league (since we start 3 W/T's) WRs or lack thereof killed me. I feel super confident in my group this year. Three times -- the guy who I wanted was selected before. One was Kendall Wright and the other Amendola. I'm forgetting the third.

Rumors on Twitter that MJD's holdout may end soon...where would you guys slot him draft wise?

Would you still take him fairly early...?

Late Round 1....early Round 2. And that's reluctantly.

still waiting for some critcism

Not real stoked about this team I just ended up with in an auction, but can't see any HUGE weaknesses. (6points per passing TD, otherwise, standard scoring)

QB Eli Manning
RB Ray Rice
RB Ryan Mathews
RB/WR Jonathan Stewart
WR A.J. Green
WR Victor Cruz
TE Jason Witten
D/ST Eagles D/ST
K Matt Bryant

BE Matt Ryan
BE Antonio Brown
BE Andy Dalton
BE Dwayne Bowe
BE Daniel Thomas
BE Jacquizz Rodgers
BE Alex Green

Just completed my draft...14 man league...haven't played FF in forever so I don't know exactly how well I did but I'm pretty happy with my team.

Had the #1 pick and it was a no brainer for me, listing by round taken and player...

1. Ray Rice
2. Matt Forte
3. Brandon Marshall
4. Peyton Manning
5. Vincent Jackson
6. Pierre Garcon
7. Josh Freeman
8. Stephen Gotkowski
9. Seattle Defense
10. Roy Helu
11. Brandon Pettigrew
12. Kellen Winslow
13. Kendall Wright
14. Austin Collie
15. Tampa Bay D
16. Davone Bess

There was an insane run on QBs and by the time it came to me in the 4th Manning was the only real viable option. I didn't want to take a K or a Defense at that point either but they started to go quickly then too...was a weird draft.

Thoughts and criticisms are welcome...

Not sure I agree with Rice overall #1. What made you go Rice over someone like Rodgers or Foster?

I was going to take him or McCoy...just think they'll get more touches and opportunities for TDs. I don't know, don't think you can go wrong with any of the 4 honestly.

Me personally, I would take Rodgers over McCoy or Rice 100 times out of 100.

Drafted my work/friends league this morning. QB's were going fast and furious for some reason. I had the 3rd overall pick in a snake draft.

12 team - 6 pts for TD's. 1/4 PPR. Start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1DST, 1K

QB - Matt Schaub
RB - R. Rice, R. Mathews, D. Sproles, P. Hillis, Donald Brown & Daniel Thomas
WR - Julio Jones, Percy Harvin, D. Heyward-Bey, Nate Burleson, Brandon LaFell, Austin Collie
TE - Brandon Pettigrew
D/ST - Cowboys
K - Nate Kaeding

A little weak outside of my starting WR's, but I'm pretty satisfied. Hopefully Mathews comes back healthy soon. I'll use Hillis as my RB2 and Sproles as my flex until then.

My final draft. 6 points per TD pass, PPR, flex position, 12 teams. Had the 8th overall pick.

QB - Cam Newton, Andrew Luck
RBs - Adrian Peterson, Isaac Redmond, Evan Royster, Toby Gerhardt, Mark Ingram, Ronnie Brown
WRs - Andre Johnson, Steve Smith (carolina), DeMariyus Thomas, Kenny Britt, Sidney Rice, Devone Bess
TE - Aaron Hernandez, Martellus Bennett
K - Nate Kaeding
D - Broncos

This is my most skeptical team. There is a lot of potential boom, but tons of potential busts as well. I took a lot of chances I don't normally take.

Grade me.

QB-WR-WR-WR-RB-RB-TE-K-Def

QB
Matt Ryan
Andrew Luck

WR
Greg Jennings
A.J. Green
Dez Bryant
Nate Washington
Kendall Wright

RB
LeSean McCoy
Matt Forte
Mark Ingram
David Wilson
Rashad Jennings

TE
Jared Cook

K
John Kasay

Def
Houston Texans

I think if AP goes down you're monumentally screwed.

Without question.

I'd have Gerhard, but gotta take some chances in the 3rd round.

If he doesn't go down though, this team should put up a ton of points each week.