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NewChief 12-20-2011 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8223702)
I agree; his vocal performance is cheating in some respects, as it is almost inherently un-musical. But he gets away with it because of how sincere and effective his passionate delivery is. That un-musical quality is what makes Wildlife such an interesting album to listen to.
Reminds me of The Hold Steady of hardcore.

Captain Obvious 12-20-2011 03:46 PM
Might not be your type of music, but I have been digging Dawes-Nothing Is Wrong. It's been my favorite album all year.

siberian khatru 12-20-2011 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8222038)
17.) Steven Wilson – Grace for Drowning


Steven Wilson, in the absence of a Porcupine Tree album, released one Hell of a solo album this year. It’s 2 discs (!) and Wilson considers it part of a loose conceptual album cycle with Opeth’s Heritage (#36 on my list). It does similar things as the Opeth album: it looks backwards at prog giants from the past – King Crimson, Pink Floyd, Yes – and wears those influences on its sleeve and also constructs the sleeve itself out of those influences and the whole shirt too is made of those influences too. It’s what you’d expect of Steven Wilson: tight songwriting (despite the length of songs), a few grand tracks, a few experiments that never achieve full lift-off. It doesn’t have the song structure issue that the Opeth album does, but it does suffer in my opinion of being too reliant upon sounds from the past. Still, this is a dynamic and enjoyable album on a number of levels. If I could like you to the 25-minute long “Raider II” I would, but instead you can settle for a 9-minute long song. Despite the flaws of these two albums, I’m excited for the third and final album in this cycle coming next year – a album that Wilson and Mikael Akerfeldt (of Opeth) are writing and performing together.


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This was an album that was a very challenging initial listen, but has grown on me tremendously. As much as I have come to really like the album, the material is even much better live. For instance, I felt "Raider II" on disc was overindulgent and needed some editing, but live it was absolutely epic ... my jaw literally was agape.

You make a very good point about relying too much on sounds of the past. From the first listening, I was sitting there going, "That sounds like 'Devil's Triangle' on 'In the Wake of Poseidon,' that sounds like something from 'Red,' that sounds like 'Cirkus' on 'Lizard ...'"

Still, I really like it, more so than "Insurgentes" (which isn't bad).

NewChief 12-20-2011 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious (Post 8223752)
Might not be your type of music, but I have been digging Dawes-Nothing Is Wrong. It's been my favorite album all year.
Their first album was fantastic. I haven't listened to the second though.

htismaqe 12-20-2011 04:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b86rBqdx_uc

noa 12-20-2011 10:39 PM
Das Racist is good stuff. I got a leather jacket, I got a little hat on, I'm drinking carbonated water by the quarter gallon, I drive an eagle talon....
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Molitoth 12-21-2011 08:36 AM
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Cookie Monster pterodactyl!

NewChief 12-21-2011 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious (Post 8223752)
Might not be your type of music, but I have been digging Dawes-Nothing Is Wrong. It's been my favorite album all year.
Listened to the second album last night. It's not as good as the first (imo), but it's still solid. I prefer Middle Brother's album for 2011 (Middle Brother, if you don't know, consists of the singers from Dawes, Deer Tick, and Delta Spirit).

htismaqe 12-21-2011 10:18 AM
I keep trying to read Reaper's list but I never can get past #42.

ROFL

NewChief 12-21-2011 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8225335)
I keep trying to read Reaper's list but I never can get past #42.

ROFL
Their previous album Enter the Vulva of Vishneka was superior, imo.

Reaper16 12-22-2011 12:50 PM
Hey, NewChief -- just came across this interview/lecture by Clams Casino: http://vimeo.com/32616502

NewChief 12-22-2011 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8228346)
Hey, NewChief -- just came across this interview/lecture by Clams Casino: http://vimeo.com/32616502
Cool. I was watching another interview last night with him. He's pretty down to earth. It's funny, because he doesn't even really know or hang with any of those rappers (or at least he didn't at the time of the interview I watched). He just sends them beats and they use them. It's a little shorter as well, though the interviewer kind of hogs the airtime.

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NewChief 12-23-2011 11:50 AM
This is kind of cool. A 2011 sampler. 10 "discs," 183 songs, 13 hours of music from 2011.

http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/12/flux...011-survey-mix

MoreLemonPledge 12-25-2011 10:33 AM
My List:

(Spoiler Alert: No Metal)

Honorable Mentions:

Cults - Cults
Real Estate - Days
PJ Harvey - Let England Shake
TV on the Radio - Nine Types of Light
Panda Bear - Tomboy
Atlas Sound - Parallax
Washed Out - Within and Without
The Vaccines - What Did You Expect From the Vaccines?
Death Cab for Cutie - Codes and Keys
The Joy Formidable - The Big Roar


20. St. Vincent - Strange Mercy
19. James Blake - James Blake
18. M83 - Hurry Up We're Dreaming
17. Drake - Take Care
16. The Black Keys - El Camino
15. The Pains of Being Pure at Heart - Belong
14. My Morning Jacket - Circuital
13. tUnEyArDs - WHOKILL
12. Jay-Z and Kanye West - Watch the Throne
11. Wilco - The Whole Love
10. Bright Eyes - The People's Key
9. Das Racist - Relax
8. Fleet Foxes - Helplessness Blues
7. Radiohead - The King of Limbs
6. The Decemberists - The King is Dead
5. The Antlers - Burst Apart
4. Yuck - Yuck
3. The Weeknd - House of Balloons/Thursday/Echoes of Silence (I cheated and put them together)
2. Girls - Father, Son, Holy Ghost
1. Bon Iver - Bon Iver

Reaper16 12-25-2011 10:39 AM
why do people like Watch the Throne someone please explain it to me like do they not listen to rap ever

MoreLemonPledge 12-25-2011 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8235969)
why do people like Watch the Throne someone please explain it to me like do they not listen to rap ever
I also like Kendrick Lamar, but I'm much more likely to listen to Watch the Throne. I don't know. I see it as a record that actually lived up to a massive amount of hype, which is increasingly rare of late.

Reaper16 12-25-2011 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 8235972)
I also like Kendrick Lamar, but I'm much more likely to listen to Watch the Throne. I don't know. I see it as a record that actually lived up to a massive amount of hype, which is increasingly rare of late.
Weird. I get deeply bored whenever I try to listen to Watch the Throne. I find it rote and lacking in any sense of energy or urgency, especially when it comes to the beats. Hov's lyrics are often pretty damn good, but he delivers them with all the swagger of a mailman.

MoreLemonPledge 12-25-2011 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8235983)
Weird. I get deeply bored whenever I try to listen to Watch the Throne. I find it rote and lacking in any sense of energy or urgency, especially when it comes to the beats. Hov's lyrics are often pretty damn good, but he delivers them with all the swagger of a mailman.
The lows can be pretty damn boring (My "Deluxe" version is at least 5 songs too long), but Otis, N*ggas in Paris, and New Day make up for it.

Reaper16 12-26-2011 11:16 PM
I'm drunj off Bourbon Barrel Quad and I would like to hear arguments as to how any rap producers can be in the same realm as Block Beattaz. If you aren't Clams Casino, Kanye, or Lazerbeak then you are not at Block Beattaz' level. Listen to those two G-Side albums, you buttholes.

Buck 12-26-2011 11:20 PM
Do you like to get Crunj, per chance?

Reaper16 12-26-2011 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8238154)
Do you like to get Crunj, per chance?
No. I hate dancing.

MoreLemonPledge 12-27-2011 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8238150)
I'm drunj off Bourbon Barrel Quad and I would like to hear arguments as to how any rap producers can be in the same realm as Block Beattaz. If you aren't Clams Casino, Kanye, or Lazerbeak then you are not at Block Beattaz' level. Listen to those two G-Side albums, you buttholes.
HEY HAVE YOU SEEN THE YOUTUBE VIDEO WITH MAC LETHAL IT'S AWESOME BECAUSE HE RAPS ABOUT PANCAKES

NewChief 12-27-2011 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 8238189)
HEY HAVE YOU SEEN THE YOUTUBE VIDEO WITH MAC LETHAL IT'S AWESOME BECAUSE HE RAPS ABOUT PANCAKES
I actually do think that rap is awesome because he rips the shit out of Chris Brown. What is not awesome is that he labels himself a "nerdy white kid" to market it. Or he'll maybe it's brilliant to do so, but it just feels like pandering.

MoreLemonPledge 12-27-2011 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 8238196)
I actually do think that rap is awesome because he rips the shit out of Chris Brown. What is not awesome is that he labels himself a "nerdy white kid" to market it. Or he'll maybe it's brilliant to do so, but it just feels like pandering.
Yeah, that's ****ing stupid, but I guess it's the gimmick he wants.

Reaper16 12-27-2011 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 8238196)
I actually do think that rap is awesome because he rips the shit out of Chris Brown. What is not awesome is that he labels himself a "nerdy white kid" to market it. Or he'll maybe it's brilliant to do so, but it just feels like pandering.
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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 8238201)
Yeah, that's ****ing stupid, but I guess it's the gimmick he wants.
He knows how to get hits on YouTube, and that titling is part of it.

And hey, now he's represented by Ari Emmanuel's talent agency and he has a book deal for Texts From Bennett. So he's obviously playing the game correctly.

Pushead2 12-27-2011 04:45 AM
really don't have a particular order or list but I know that I heavily enjoyed these this year:

Foster The People - Torches
M83 - Hurry Up We're Dreaming
Bon Iver - Bon Iver
August Burns Red - Leveler
Florence + The Machine - Ceremonials
The Script - Science & Faith
Yellowcard - When You're Through Thinking, Say Yes
Oh Sleeper - Children of Fire
Times of Grace - The Hymn Of A Broken Man
Unearth - Darkness In The Light
Drake - Take Care

CHENZ A! 01-03-2012 11:47 AM
. The Weeknd -House of Balloons/Thursday/ Echoes of Silence (I cheated and put them togeth

This shit right here! The Weeknd is my favorite new discovery of 2011.

Reaper16 01-03-2012 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CHENZ A! (Post 8258933)
. The Weeknd -House of Balloons/Thursday/ Echoes of Silence (I cheated and put them togeth

This shit right here! The Weeknd is my favorite new discovery of 2011.
My reaction to The Weeknd is always "Why should I listen to this when I can just put on an album from The-Dream?"

Titty Meat 01-03-2012 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8235969)
why do people like Watch the Throne someone please explain it to me like do they not listen to rap ever
This is the problem with rap there's too many hanger ons. Jay-z post 2007 is trash. Eminem has sucked for a very long time as well. Yet people continue to support them because of their names.

Reaper16 01-03-2012 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8259305)
This is the problem with rap there's too many hanger ons. Jay-z post 2007 is trash. Eminem has sucked for a very long time as well. Yet people continue to support them because of their names.
Eminem is as good as he's ever been right now on a technical level. He just doesn't have anything to say anymore.

Titty Meat 01-03-2012 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8259322)
Eminem is as good as he's ever been right now on a technical level. He just doesn't have anything to say anymore.
Quit listening to him after 2005 when he released that dog shit album. If this were the NFL dude would be averaging 2.7 a carry now.

Reaper16 01-03-2012 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8259380)
Quit listening to him after 2005 when he released that dog shit album. If this were the NFL dude would be averaging 2.7 a carry now.
Listen to the new Bad Meets Evil album. Em brings it on some technical MC shit.

NewChief 01-03-2012 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CHENZ A! (Post 8258933)
. The Weeknd -House of Balloons/Thursday/ Echoes of Silence (I cheated and put them togeth

This shit right here! The Weeknd is my favorite new discovery of 2011.
Yeah. I dig. And I don't necessarily agree with Reaper's take that it's a rehash of The Dream. I do think that HoB was much more interesting and fresh than anything else he's put out since, though.

Edit: I should add that I'm completely prejudiced right now because I'm fascinated by the current conflux of indie and hiphop/R&B, which the Weeknd represents very well. The Dream seems to draw much more on traditional R&B (and that's not a bad thing at all). He's all around better than Abel from a larger perspective, but I'm pretty caught up in the movement that Abel is a part of at the moment.

Simplicity 01-08-2012 09:26 PM
For all the "fresh" music listeners... Here is a pretty good song from Hi-Rez... He's unsigned I think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR94P...40D&lf=mh_lolz

Pitt Gorilla 12-05-2012 12:56 AM
Really looking forward to the 2012 version!

Chiefspants 12-05-2012 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8219830)
Out of curiosity, what would your order be now?

Reaper16 12-05-2012 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 9181966)
Out of curiosity, what would your order be now?
On the 2008 list? That's a good question. Give me some time to think about it.


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