Does anyone (Phob?) know if it's acceptable to use 2"x6"x8' for framing and joists? Deck's going to be 8' x 8' and will not have much weight on it. I know the 2x6s are fine for the decking, but I was curious if the framing and joists need to be 2x8s or if I can get by with 2x6s.

Thanks.

If the deck is 12" or less off the ground, yes you can use 2X6 for the joists. Anything higher should use 2x8

Thanks Phob. That's 12" or less at the top or the bottom of the deck?

Well, the purpose of the "rule" or code is to prevent falls in case of breakage. So, it must be 12" from the top of the decking. It may even be 18" in your area. You would need to check with a local building inspector or call your housing authority.

Thanks again. I'm pretty sure that it'll be less than 12" at the top of the decking.

Wow..I'm impressed. It appears Phil does have talents other than giving good BJ's.

Sorry man..I got him used to handling something with girth. I'm sure your toothpick is a little slender now that I've broken him in.

More Brando Gay jokes... heh. Dude, is that all you got in your joke reportaire?

ROFL

Does the thought of Phil and I sharing a sloppy embrace really offend you that much? Geethus.

Is that because the atmosphere is thinner above 12"?

dude, you need a woman. like bad.

Is it appropriate for you to be hitting on guys like this while your husband is out of town?

you must have misunderstood. he'd have to start a lot slower. all this woman so soon after his breakup and he'd be ruined for life. ;)

LOL - true dat

I will only say that if you don't watch out Mr. Kotter will be determined to out you.

Where are today's updates?

You need more contractors.

This just dawned on me. Damned mod abuse......

Really hot, huh? It's real nice here, 76° and sunny.

I have a B-i-L n phoenix who might be able to use some hours, I know he does construction work and had done some work on houses a while back. LOL!

Bowsers been drinking again. Nothing to see here, now move along!

Is he a "bargain worker"?

Bob Dole is wondering why some guy named Elwayne is answering Phil's cell phone.

I must say, I'm extremely proud of myself. I'm tearing down my deck cause we're building a patio. I grind up these screws with the power screw driver and so the reg. ones won't work either. I decided to use a hammer and pull up while twisting at the same time. Worked like a charm, screws came right out. I'm a genius.

Try this; "It's really ho'ut," an'the deck's stilln't done."

That work fo you?



Shit.... that's contractIONS... nevermind. :sulk:

Couldn't find the wide angle lens?

She actually was hot. Brutally hot. Nice rack and no jiggles. She may have had an eyesight problem because not only was her fiance as husky as myself, he was also half bald.

Tongue length is in direct correlation with the maintaining of a relationship more than looks from the male side.

Russ, I don't know why you felt compelled to respond to that. Obviously, Beth has eye problems as well.

since when do you care about eyesight dude? i'm thinking you should have at least been neighborly and asked to borrow her phone so you could call your wife and ask her if she would come get your sorry ass cuz you seem to have misplaced the truck while you were in mexico starin' at the local tiddies.

Truly Classic, Pink!!!

btw, boyz, I am in town - Brian you have the number, check your smokes

OWNED.

what a great thread...

You must have missed his outing back in January. That's why his "girlfriend" dumped him.

FWIW, the deck looks like it's gonna be great; sorry about the bumps along the way, Phil...and Brian.

Great thread. Looks like the deck is coming along great.

I wish Boston was closer to KC. I could use some good work done (want my basement finished and have a few other projects), and getting a good, reliable contractor is a helluva challenge.

you don't live near the mexican border do you? and how's the security at your place?

I'd sure give Phil a chance at it. Especially if you supply the beer. His wife only has half a brain so she wouldn't be a problem.

I'm surprised you didn't let him know.

Skip, quite the contrary. I think Pink has a lot more intelligence than we think. The only thing that questions her intelligence is her marr.................

Pink, I hear Phil saying admiringly great and wonderful things about you but something tells me you are all of that but you are also more up to date on how things happen than he wants to let us in on???? BTW ..Your post was classic! I got a great laugh out of it. Kinda neat how you are funny and serious at the same time!!!!!!!!

I didn't tell him, but I did tell some other kid (mid to late 20's) that he needed to stop hiding his MPB and roll with it. He told me he knew he was going bald and that he had embraced it. I asked why he was attempting (badly) to hide it then. He asked me to remove my hat so I did. Heh. He was none too happy. My bald friend (new acquaintance) bought him a shot of Petron. The bald bastard was too pussy to drink it. After it sat in front of him for 5 minutes, I downed it.

I guess that's the end of that story.

than "we think" ?? hmmm lol... but in skip's defense, he pulled that from another thread where i set myself up -- big time. no worries.

yes, and your point? ;) as for phil... he knows who's boss.

yes, i'm seriously funny. seriously.

and my point is that he knows that you know!!!!

So, you got any more deck pics? Or did they steal your camera, too?

I just read this entire thread, and can honestly say WOW!
Phibia, your defiantly a skilled craftsman.

Many is the time I’m in doing high end interior refinishing reno’s on $500,000 homes and literally watched the external reno’s like you’ve done go sour real fast.
This is incredible work IMO.
The lumber pattern really gives it a “desert” type look, and the use of the lattes gives the appearance of cut off from the main door thus creating more of a separate room, as opposed to “just a deck”.

And I’ll bet I can safely say the pic’s don’t do it justice.
Not too shabby a reno to have on your resume’ sir. Not shabby at all!
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Yeah, Pink is definately the brains running the show. Belee Dat! :)

This deck job has turned into the movie The Money Pit.

"How long until you guys are done?"


"Two weeks."

That's really badass.

I've never seen a deck like that. Are those alternating 2x6s and 2x4s?

Looking good, are you going to have the Stucco redone?

Yeah. Unique, huh?

It's nearly finished. We redid that entire wall. Just have to put a final coat on it.

Yes. Very nice.

What type of wood is that? If it's cedar, what did you use to get the grain to pop like that?

Most of the wall looks done, except on the left next to the cabinet just below the grill.

Oh - that will be covered by tile anyway. The grey you see is where some tile thinset slopped off the trowel. We need to touch up the color all over that wall anyway.

No cedar in this part of the country. Redwood is comparably priced and I used a Sherman Williams redwood toner on it. Sprayed it. It really did pop nicely, didn't it?

FWIW, the entire deck in that picture slopes a little over a 1/4" per foot (including the counter), but the grill and the stainless doors are level. Which is why it looks a little goofy at the moment. I think the tile I'll be bookending the doors with will clean that "off-kilter" look up a bit.

Hey Phil, quick hi-jack.

I replaced the wrought iron on my front porch with cedar, and we originally planned to wait and paint it with the house. Since then, we've decided we would rather stain/treat it, and keep a more natural look.

Parts of it have weathered more because they are exposed to rain. When we stain it, is there a stain that will make the grey stuff and the non-weathered stuff the same color?

Any other suggestions on products to use?

You can either powerwash the grey away and wait for a few dry days before staining or you can use a baking soda/water mixture to artificially age the newer cedar to match the weathered cedar. I don't know of a product that will overpower the weathered look unless it's a surface stain.

Geeesh! If you want to suck up that bad, how about just dropping the losers you're rooting for and start wearing Red & Gold?


:D

This deck is freakin' sweeeeeeett!!!!!!1

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

Sounds like Phil is getting spanked when he gets home. LUCKY!

ROFL - from theonion

Dude you should be ashamed you spent so much money on your deck and thats the TV you watch the Chiefs on :shake:

Pretty sure he goes to the bar for KC games.

lighten up francis

Me too :sulk:

speaking of is it done already or is phil really not coming home yet?

i think every guy's deck should be bigger than their tv screen

dude, you need a woman. like bad.

:eek: LOL

ROFL

"**** shit got my ****ing truck stolen and ****ing doing this shit at 1 am ****!"

Pardon? You did say deck, didn't you?

Wow, you're a real slave master. :shake:

That looks really nice.

Did you let Phil enjoy the fruits of his labor? I hope not.

That hammock is fucking awesome. Is it rated for about 500 lbs? :D

That's really nice. I wish I had a getup like that. Something I'll have to remember for later. Have fun.

Agreed.

But you guy a sweet deck. :thumb: Nice job, Phil.

Man, that deck looks great!!. Phil is truly an "artiste". Must've got it from FDE. Really, it went from looking like a tenement to a penthouse. I'll bet all your neighbors are jealous.

You should certainly be able to harpoon some whales up there bro!
In all seriousness...looks kick ass. Phil did some great work.