Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17471679)

I love Arrowhead and the gameday experience. And I'm not a Jackson County taxpayer.

But I'm also realistic and Arrowhead is on borrowed time. That being the case, there's no sense in limping along here. The stadium was built in such a way that it just cannot continue to keep pace with other franchises through renovation. And if we are going to be (and should be) a crown jewel franchise for the next 10-15 years (and hell, we weren't dogfood before Mahomes), that's not tenable.

So I think I'm ready for a new stadium. And if that stadium is going to be done well, it's not going to be in Jackson County. So if that means a move to Wyandotte, I'll set my anti-Kansas bias aside because it's probably best for the Chiefs long-term.

So include me in the 'new stadium near the Legends' crowd. Or wherever it will need to go to get the kind of revenue that would make building a true state of the art stadium worthwhile for Hunt and the residents of wherever it's gonna go...

I expect that means a dome for a future SB or other events. And I hate that. So my compromise would be one where there are rules in place for when the roof can be used. I can't recall which stadium did that, but there's a baseball stadium somewhere that has it written into the lease that the roof cannot be closed on days where the weather is between X and Y degrees and there's no rain.

Would I miss the snow games? Yeah. Would I miss rain and frigid cold? No, not really. And again, that's going to mean a hell of a lot more revenue and thus more willingness by Hunt to pull out some of the stops and make this a stadium worthy of replacing an icon.

What I don't want to see is what the Cardinals did in STL. They tore down Busch II and replaced it with a generic retro ballpark that just isn't special in any way because they did it on the cheap. Man I'd hate to see that (and I worry that's what's in store for Kaufman, which is just an incredible place to catch a baseball game to this day. They're going to replace it with something that isn't as good)

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17471684)

How come Green Bay is perfectly able to renovate Lambeau and keep it relevant but Arrowhead is on borrowed time and there’s simply no way to keep it viable?

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17471641)

Blackjack and hookers

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17471690)

So I have a question for you and other folks on here who say new stadium in Kansas. A quick look at the numbers and if I'm wrong please correct me. The total Kansas 2023 budget was 9 billion, Kansas City's budget was 2 billion, Missouri's was 44 billion.

What would stop a new stadium being built in say Lee's Summit? If it comes down to money Kansas is out gunned by a wide margin

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 17471687)

Level Bally’s and put the Royals on the riverfront, near the current stadium. Activate the riverfront and what a sight coming in town from the north.

Keep Arrowhead where it is at. Modernize the finishes, but don’t screw with the seating. But bring back the rolling roof that will cover the stadium or a performance pavilion of sort adjacent to it.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17471679)

What I don't want to see is what the Cardinals did in STL. They tore down Busch II and replaced it with a generic retro ballpark that just isn't special in any way because they did it on the cheap. Man I'd hate to see that (and I worry that's what's in store for Kaufman, which is just an incredible place to catch a baseball game to this day. They're going to replace it with something that isn't as good)

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17471697)

Cool. Keep it in Missouri then. All the better.

Provided that you can find a location where business leaders are willing to invest and actually build the area.

Are they gonna spin the wheel and take their chances in Lee's Summit? Honestly, I kinda doubt it.

I have no particular affinity for the Legends project specfically. I just want a damn nice new stadium if we're going to replace Arrowhead. And if that's the case, it's going to have to be somewhere that Clark and the local taxpayers will see a return. If you have a better spot, have at it.

(As for the Missouri Budget - that's not terribly relevant as St. Louis damn sure isn't chipping in to build a stadium in KC. And I don't think there's that same level of antipathy and/or regional loyalty in Kansas, though I could be wrong)

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17471701)

All the major sports architecture firms are in KC. They aren't going to butcher their hometown stadium.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17471679)

I love Arrowhead and the gameday experience. And I'm not a Jackson County taxpayer.

But I'm also realistic and Arrowhead is on borrowed time. That being the case, there's no sense in limping along here. The stadium was built in such a way that it just cannot continue to keep pace with other franchises through renovation. And if we are going to be (and should be) a crown jewel franchise for the next 10-15 years (and hell, we weren't dogfood before Mahomes), that's not tenable.

So I think I'm ready for a new stadium. And if that stadium is going to be done well, it's not going to be in Jackson County. So if that means a move to Wyandotte, I'll set my anti-Kansas bias aside because it's probably best for the Chiefs long-term.


So include me in the 'new stadium near the Legends' crowd. Or wherever it will need to go to get the kind of revenue that would make building a true state of the art stadium worthwhile for Hunt and the residents of wherever it's gonna go...

I expect that means a dome for a future SB or other events. And I hate that. So my compromise would be one where there are rules in place for when the roof can be used. I can't recall which stadium did that, but there's a baseball stadium somewhere that has it written into the lease that the roof cannot be closed on days where the weather is between X and Y degrees and there's no rain.

Would I miss the snow games? Yeah. Would I miss rain and frigid cold? No, not really. And again, that's going to mean a hell of a lot more revenue and thus more willingness by Hunt to pull out some of the stops and make this a stadium worthy of replacing an icon.

What I don't want to see is what the Cardinals did in STL. They tore down Busch II and replaced it with a generic retro ballpark that just isn't special in any way because they did it on the cheap. Man I'd hate to see that (and I worry that's what's in store for Kaufman, which is just an incredible place to catch a baseball game to this day. They're going to replace it with something that isn't as good)

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17471690)

What would stop a new stadium being built in say Lee's Summit? If it comes down to money Kansas is out gunned by a wide margin

Originally Posted by Shaid (Post 17471668)

I'd like a well renovated Arrowhead with actually decent facilities, etc. but if you're gonna be getting close to a billion, you may as well do a completely new stadium just from a financial standpoint. Otherwise you spend that much and do another renovation in 15 years.