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pugsnotdrugs19 04-09-2017 10:02 AM

I personally hate the idea that you need an 'Andrew Luck' type prospect if you are taking a QB early in the draft. Why?

At the end of the day, you're going to need a solid team and coaching staff around whatever QB you draft for them to succeed, which the Chiefs currently have. Andrew Luck does not, however, in Indy.

This team is set up to draft any talented QB early and have success, because the foundation around the position is already in place.

GloucesterChief 04-09-2017 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12816420)
Right. He did that on 3/4 of a season. He looks the part but how many have and have taken steps back during their college careers?

It is really pretty dumb to make decisions for the now based on what some college kid may do in a year.

He may regress but I think the kid has it.

Chief Roundup 04-09-2017 10:05 AM

Chiefs and the majority of their fans are the Cubs, before 2016, of the NFL. :(:(:shake:

RealSNR 04-09-2017 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 12816429)
He may regress but I think the kid has it.

Let's say it's Darnold and Falk.

Again, what good does that do the Chiefs? We have no shot at them.

Let's say Mitch Trubisky falls to 27. How is he not just as good of a prospect as Josh ****ing Allen, a guy who threw a zillion picks playing in the Mountain West?

pugsnotdrugs19 04-09-2017 10:07 AM

Also, when is the last time you saw a really good football team draft a great QB prospect in the top 10?

Unless the Chiefs fall off drastically in 2017, so much so that Reid and Dorsey end up on a very hot seat, we will not be in position to take any of the top 2-3 QBs in 2018. Hard to see them winning any more or less than 9 to 12 games this year. 2017 is the year to draft the QB. Do it now so you can have a kid ready to roll in 2018 and move on from Alex's contract.

milkman 04-09-2017 10:21 AM

Just stop it.

Next year has always been the best year to draft a QB since 1983.

ThaVirus 04-09-2017 10:24 AM

Too risky.

Kid at my local high school has been tearing it up. We should target him after Alex's upcoming extension hits its twilight years in 2021.

Bowser 04-09-2017 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12816448)
Too risky.

Kid at my local high school has been tearing it up. We should target him after Alex's upcoming extension hits its twilight years in 2021.

Somewhere out there a drunken star college football player is about to knock up a drunken star college soccer player. We should hold out for that unholy brood to declare for the draft.

SAUTO 04-09-2017 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12816460)
Somewhere out there a drunken star college football player is about to knock up a drunken star college soccer player. We should hold out for that unholy brood to declare for the draft.

Star college pitcher and star college player.

Qb from the heavens

The Franchise 04-09-2017 10:56 AM

If you want to wait until 2018 to draft a QB....then you'd better be ready to hope Smith goes down for the entire season and Bray leads us to eaxtly 1-2 wins. That's the only shot we'll have at a high QB. And even then it will be "He's not Andrew Luck! We need to draft an offensive lineman to protect Smith and get our QB in 2019!"

Hammock Parties 04-09-2017 10:56 AM

More white guys, duh.

-King- 04-09-2017 11:00 AM

The same people who aren't willing to wait till 2018 to draft a QB are willing to draft a QB and have him sit for 2 years to develop. What's the difference?
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SAGA45 04-09-2017 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12816340)
1. Sam Darnold, USC
2. Josh Rosen, UCLA
3. Luke Falk, Washington State
4. Josh Allen, Wyoming
5. Jarrett Stidham, Auburn
6. Nick Fitzgerald, Mississippi State
7. Chase Litton, Marshall
8. Riley Ferguson, Memphis

To supplement your list in no particular order:

9. Baker Mayfield (Oklahoma)
10. Max Browne (Pitt)
11. Matt Linehan (Idaho)
12. Mike White (Western Kentucky)
13. Quinton Flowers (South Florida)
14. Jeremiah Briscoe (Sam Houston State)
15. Logan Woodside (Toledo)
16. Lamar Jackson (Louisville)*
17. Brett Rypien (Boise State)*

'*' denotes underclassmen in 2018

As it stands today, with seniors alone, I personally think the 2018 class is superior to 2017. Any combination of the underclassmen declare and it could be quite special both in terms of talent and depth.

Nonetheless, the Chiefs won't wait until next year to draft a QB because Dorsey was taught by Ron Wolf to draft a QB every year...every other year at minimum. For KC so far on Dorsey's watch....Bray (UDFA/ '13), Murray (Rd 5/ '14) and Hogan (Rd 5/ '16).

Therefore, it's a reasonable expectation for the Chiefs to draft one both in 2017 and 2018 and I doubt they wait until the 5th round in either year to do so given the impending separation from Alex Smith and his salary.

Hammock Parties 04-09-2017 11:12 AM

Also, you don't really know how these players are going to look a year from now. Several of them could have 2017 seasons that place them far and away above the guys coming out this year, who all need work.

The fact that most everyone agrees the 2018 class is ALREADY better is a big deal given that they still have another season to improve.

SAUTO 04-09-2017 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12816471)
The same people who aren't willing to wait till 2018 to draft a QB are willing to draft a QB and have him sit for 2 years to develop. What's the difference?
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The 2018 rounder might need a year or two also. Were you actually being serious here?


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