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Direckshun 03-19-2017 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12788944)
Whether we get the ammo now or later, here's the bottom line of what you're proposing.

The draft order will come out in 2018. The comp picks will be announced. And the Chiefs will need to pay a handsome price to jump up and grab Mr. Magic Butt**** in teh b3stest QB class evar!

Let's say they add an additional draft pick in the mid teens to go along with their late 20s draft pick they were awarded.

Are you ready for a Ricky Williams-like trade up to get Mr. Magic Butthole? Because that's what it's going to cost.

It's going to cost what the Redskins paid to get RGIII and probably worse.

Are you saying that the franchise, GM, and coach that is too ****ing scared to spend a late 1st rounder on Derek Carr or Teddy Bridgewater is going to take THAT big of a risk?

Jesus ****, I want a 1st round QB in KC more than most people, and not even I'M that desperate!

I agree.

The best course of action for us is to pick a QB that simply best fits Andy Reid.

We're not getting an Andrew Luck. The best we can hope for is getting a Joe Flacco.

Dave Lane 03-19-2017 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaid (Post 12788327)
I'd trade my 1 for a 1 next year to have the ammo needed to grab a QB next year. Grab fatties and a LB this year would probably be my biggest focus for the later rounds. You can find a decent RB somewhere as well.

It had better be a 1 and a 2 next year or it is a reeruned move

Dave Lane 03-19-2017 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 12789243)
I agree.

The best course of action for us is to pick a QB that simply best fits Andy Reid.

We're not getting an Andrew Luck. The best we can hope for is getting a Joe Flacco.

No that might be their perceived ceiling but the bottom line is once in the league those expectations can either bloom or wither.

RippedmyFlesh 03-19-2017 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 12789243)
I agree.

The best course of action for us is to pick a QB that simply best fits Andy Reid.

We're not getting an Andrew Luck. The best we can hope for is getting a Joe Flacco.

Nothing wrong with getting a Flacco. You can get a ring with him which is all everyone here wants. Well most any way.

staylor26 03-19-2017 10:05 AM

This is great news. Terez had us taking Chris Jones is his mock last year.

rico 03-19-2017 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12789332)
This is great news. Terez had us taking Chris Jones is his mock last year.

Really? I'm assuming he had them taking him in the late first?

Guy has always seemed to have a general scoop on what the Chiefs are planning to do...

jjchieffan 03-19-2017 10:44 AM

If none of the top QB's are available, I wouldn't be opposed to trading away our first again. And the idea of getting a first rounder for next year sounds pretty good considering the draft class of QBs. I would think that a second this year and next year's first would be a fair trade. Of course that would be subjective, based on who we trade with. Trading with the Pats would not be such a good deal for us. Trading with the Browns or the Rams would be a great trade for us, but too high of a price for the other team. I mean, could you imagine having a top 5 pick in next year's draft? Yeah, the Browns could win the Superbowl and the Pats could go 1-15. But I doubt it. It's more likely that KnowShit would question a Donk move. But, I'm sure that this discussion is moot. I just don't see us trading for a 2018 first round pick.

Titty Meat 03-19-2017 12:04 PM

I've been critical of Mahomes I believe his mechanics are garbage but I'll say this dude has the biggest arm since Favre. If Dorsey drafts him I'll hope on board.

staylor26 03-19-2017 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rico (Post 12789357)
Really? I'm assuming he had them taking him in the late first?

Guy has always seemed to have a general scoop on what the Chiefs are planning to do...

Yea it was in the 1st. He's the best in terms of having any clue what Dorsey is going to do.

Chief Roundup 03-19-2017 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12788944)
Whether we get the ammo now or later, here's the bottom line of what you're proposing.

The draft order will come out in 2018. The comp picks will be announced. And the Chiefs will need to pay a handsome price to jump up and grab Mr. Magic Butt**** in teh b3stest QB class evar!

Let's say they add an additional draft pick in the mid teens to go along with their late 20s draft pick they were awarded.

Are you ready for a Ricky Williams-like trade up to get Mr. Magic Butthole? Because that's what it's going to cost.

It's going to cost what the Redskins paid to get RGIII and probably worse.

Are you saying that the franchise, GM, and coach that is too ****ing scared to spend a late 1st rounder on Derek Carr or Teddy Bridgewater is going to take THAT big of a risk?

Jesus ****, I want a 1st round QB in KC more than most people, and not even I'M that desperate!

Oh so you know that we will end up in the playoffs again this year? It is possible but the 2016 Chiefs pulled a couple of rabbits out of their ass. That may or may not happen again in 2017.
Yes I would be ready to trade the two 1st rounders in 2018 and one in 2019 to secure that QB.
If the 2018 draft is deeper then we wouldn't have to move up as far to get said QB either.
What makes you think that they were afraid to draft Carr or Bridgewater? Just because they choose to pass doesn't mean that they were afraid to.

YayMike 03-19-2017 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12789446)
Yea it was in the 1st. He's the best in terms of having any clue what Dorsey is going to do.

How awesome would it be if Mahommes fell to us at 27, then we could trade up in he second using our comp picks to get watt!!!

#WetDream

ChiefAshhole1056 03-19-2017 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12789446)
Yea it was in the 1st. He's the best in terms of having any clue what Dorsey is going to do.

Terez is legitimately one of the best in the business, I think many are taking him for granted. It's going to suck whenever he leaves for bigger things.

RealSNR 03-19-2017 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12789827)
Oh so you know that we will end up in the playoffs again this year? It is possible but the 2016 Chiefs pulled a couple of rabbits out of their ass. That may or may not happen again in 2017.
Yes I would be ready to trade the two 1st rounders in 2018 and one in 2019 to secure that QB.
If the 2018 draft is deeper then we wouldn't have to move up as far to get said QB either.
What makes you think that they were afraid to draft Carr or Bridgewater? Just because they choose to pass doesn't mean that they were afraid to.

You're going to go in on a strategy that involves us missing the playoffs to get draft position? The odds are significantly in our favor to make the playoffs next year.

It's one thing to sacrifice the future to get something now. If the Chiefs want to use 2019 and 2020 picks to get more in 2018, fine by me, but it's pretty foolish to trade CURRENT first round picks for picks next year.

"We wouldn't have to move very far to get a QB." You know who else is thinking that? EVERY SINGLE OTHER TEAM. If the QB class is as bad as you say it is this year, we could see Cleveland, San Diego, New Orleans, Buffalo, Minnesota, and other teams who figure to be terrible try to grab QBs. We could see 4 QBs go before we even get a chance to trade up just to sniff one.

And you still haven't addressed my point about 2012. What do we do when the top 3 guys go and we're left with a couple guys with 1st round grades but just aren't "our" guys like Tannehill or Weeden? That kind of draft hole happens far more often than you think.

If Andy Reid likes Mahomes, then take him NOW. Let him sit for 1-2 years. I'd rather take my shot on that than bank on making a Redskins-like trade on a QB class we still know ****ing nothing about.

RealSNR 03-19-2017 06:00 PM

And if it turns out we DON'T like Mahomes and will just pass totally on a real QB this year, then just wait another year. Don't **** around with next year and shit you can't control just yet.

Make the trade when you need to. Go full Ricky Williams. But do it when it's smart to do so.

RunKC 03-19-2017 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12790022)
And if it turns out we DON'T like Mahomes and will just pass totally on a real QB this year, then just wait another year. Don't **** around with next year and shit you can't control just yet.

Make the trade when you need to. Go full Ricky Williams. But do it when it's smart to do so.

It makes me sad that Doug Pederson did this right off the bat as a HC and we won't get rid of Alex.

And it ****ing worked beautifully. They got rid of Bradford and got a 1st rd pick this year.

Just once I want us to get one of these guys.


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