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Discuss Thrower 10-07-2015 12:19 AM

Check splits by score differential:

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...004_splits.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...010_splits.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...013_splits.htm

My conclusion without looking really closely: Reid needs Donovan McNabb, Terrell Owens, Brian Westbrook and Jim Johnson to be successful.

Rasputin 10-07-2015 06:45 AM

It doesn't matter who the OC is Andy Reid is a pass happy coach and wont work well with an OC who doesn't want to pass 2/3 of the time. Andy Reid could give a **** about the run he wouldn't run it all a game if he thought he could. His philosophy is to pass first pass second pass third and if that doesn't work then pass again. He will pass with the lead he will pass if you need one yard to get the first he will pass gas on the sidelines he will tell the OC to call pass plays, doesn't matter who the OC is.

007 10-07-2015 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11780171)
Nick Athan said that Andy Reid needs to take play calling away from Doug Pederson.

LMAO

You have got to be kidding. LMAO

BossChief 10-07-2015 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 11780585)
Boom. Both of these. I hate when analysts look at teams and say, "This team wins when they run the ball. In everyone of their wins, they ran the ball more than they passed. And, not surprisingly, in games where they've thrown the ball a lot, they've lost."

Well, no shit, dumbass.

In most cases, I'd agree with that.

This isn't one of those.

The Franchise 10-07-2015 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 11780711)
You have got to be kidding. LMAO

http://www.scout.com/nfl/chiefs/stor...of-the-offense

Quote:

Head Coach Andy Reid might have gone as far as he can with Offensive Coordinator, Doug Pederson. To fix his teams offense, he could be the one calling the plays this week as the Chiefs try to avoid a four game losing streak against the Chicago Bears.

Grim 10-07-2015 10:03 AM

2013 -> Chiefs had a decent/good O-line
2014 -> Chiefs have shitty O-line

CoMoChief 10-07-2015 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim (Post 11780990)
2013 -> Chiefs had a decent/good O-line
2014 -> Chiefs have shitty O-line

Last year oline was awful too.

siberian khatru 10-07-2015 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11780958)

If Pederson really has been calling the plays, then Athan finally has a scoop on his hands.

kccrow 10-07-2015 12:39 PM

Turnovers matter. Andy Reid is 21-16 with Kansas City (including playoffs), and his team is 3-10 when losing the turnover battle. Looking even deeper, his team is 4-2 when they break even. This leaves the Chiefs at 14-4 when they generate at least 1 more turnover than their opponents. The only game KC has lost when they've produced 2 or more turnovers than their opponents is the Wild Card debacle against Indianapolis when they posted a +3 mark there. Bottom line, Bob Sutton's defense needs to force turnovers and Reid's offense needs to take care of the ball. So far in 2015, the Chiefs are +2, -4, -1, and -1 respectively in turnover differential, and their record reflects that statistic at 1-3.

I'll keep digging for more answers.

kccrow 10-07-2015 12:53 PM

How important is defending the run? Well, Andy Reid's teams have gone 10-13 when giving up 100 yards or more on the ground. Not as bad as one might expect, but its less than a 50/50 chance to win.

How about points for and against? The Chiefs have went 17-7 when they've scored more than 20 points. When they don't score more than 20? 4-9. So, it is important to put at least 20 on the board, and the Chiefs have done so nearly 65% of the time. When KC gives up more than 20 points, they are a staggering 1-14 under Reid's watch. That win was the 56-31 festival in Oakland in 2013. Verdict is if the Chiefs' defense falters, KC virtually has no shot of winning. Obviously the most important statistic is the Chiefs giving up 20 or less points, with a record of 20-2.

kccrow 10-07-2015 01:13 PM

A little bit more with tying turnover margin to PF and PA... In the 13 games KC has lost the turnover battle, they have given up more than 20 points 8 times. This is an obvious correlation, that other teams will score more points when you give them the ball, but its important nonetheless. One thing that did stick out is that the Chiefs scored more than 20 points on 6 occasions when they lost the turnover battle. The Chiefs have shown that they can score enough points to win despite losing the turnover battle about half the time but they give up too many about 2/3 of the time. This math says the Chiefs will win 1 out of every 4 games they lose the turnover battle in (28%). Statistically speaking, that's about spot on with their 3/13 mark (23%).

kccrow 10-07-2015 01:24 PM

How often does the Chiefs' scoring more than 20 points go hand-in-hand with the defense giving up less than 21? Well, it happened 16 times in 21 wins (76%), so frequently. That also means that the Chiefs offense has scored more than 20 points more frequently when the defense gives up 20 or less points than if the defense gives up more than 20 points. KC's offense, remember, scored more than 20 points in 24 contests. So, 67% (16/24) of the time that the offense scores more than 20 points, it does so when the defense gives up 20 or less. Perhaps KC's best offense is a great defense.

BossChief 12-03-2015 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11780118)

Average ratio for wins: 31:28
Average ratio for losses: 18:36
.

Last 5 games pass:run ratio starting with Pittsburgh in week 7.

32:29
26:32
31:32
25:31
30:27

That's an average pass:ratio of 29:30

Hammock Parties 12-03-2015 11:36 AM

We win with defense. We lose with Alex.

Frosty 12-03-2015 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11924254)
We win with defense. We lose with Alex.

Like in the Bills game


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