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beer bacon 06-16-2015 09:12 AM

That list is shit and I would feel much better about Daniel taking a spot start than most of those guys.

Hammock Parties 06-16-2015 09:14 AM

He's merely OK.

Most of these guys run together though.

DJ's left nut 06-16-2015 09:19 AM

Yeah, I'm on the 'cut Chase' bandwagon and I still think that list is silly and mostly just lazy.

I wouldn't take 7 of those guys over Daniel: Hasselbeck, Schaub, Jackson, Hill, Ponder, Moore and Clemens. I could probably be convinced on Moore, however.

Fitzpatrick, Sanchez and Glennon I'd probably take over Daniel, though Glennon's actually probably a worse player; I just like his upside.

Daniel's overpaid, but he's a top 10 backup without question, IMO.

TEX 06-16-2015 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11551156)
Yeah, I'm on the 'cut Chase' bandwagon and I still think that list is silly and mostly just lazy.

I wouldn't take 7 of those guys over Daniel: Hasselbeck, Schaub, Jackson, Hill, Ponder, Moore and Clemens. I could probably be convinced on Moore, however.

Fitzpatrick, Sanchez and Glennon I'd probably take over Daniel, though Glennon's actually probably a worse player; I just like his upside.

Daniel's overpaid, but he's a top 10 backup without question, IMO.

This. Except I want to keep Chase.

O.city 06-16-2015 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11551156)
Yeah, I'm on the 'cut Chase' bandwagon and I still think that list is silly and mostly just lazy.

I wouldn't take 7 of those guys over Daniel: Hasselbeck, Schaub, Jackson, Hill, Ponder, Moore and Clemens. I could probably be convinced on Moore, however.

Fitzpatrick, Sanchez and Glennon I'd probably take over Daniel, though Glennon's actually probably a worse player; I just like his upside.

Daniel's overpaid, but he's a top 10 backup without question, IMO.

There's a damn Darth of qb play in the league today.

People freak when Alex smith and Dalton get deals, but there's so much shit out there

DJ's left nut 06-16-2015 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11551323)
There's a damn Darth of qb play in the league today.

People freak when Alex smith and Dalton get deals, but there's so much shit out there

And that's all compounded by the CP philosophy of "If you're not a HoFer, you're probably shit".

There's no room for merely competent football players 'round these parts.

My issue with Chase is that I'm ultimately of the mind that if you lose your starter for 5 games or more, you're probably !@#$ed either way. Chase's only real benefit is in the event that Smith goes down from 1-4 games. If that's the case, maybe Chase can go in there, go 2-2 and Smith can guide them to 8-4 in the other games to get us to 10-6 and a possible playoff berth.

I just think that's a pretty limited set of circumstances to justify a guy using up nearly $5 mil of cap space.

O.city 06-16-2015 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11551334)
And that's all compounded by the CP philosophy of "If you're not a HoFer, you're probably shit".

There's no room for merely competent football players 'round these parts.

My issue with Chase is that I'm ultimately of the mind that if you lose your starter for 5 games or more, you're probably !@#$ed either way. Chase's only real benefit is in the event that Smith goes down from 1-4 games. If that's the case, maybe Chase can go in there, go 2-2 and Smith can guide them to 8-4 in the other games to get us to 10-6 and a possible playoff berth.

I just think that's a pretty limited set of circumstances to justify a guy using up nearly $5 mil of cap space.

Not only that, but the way they're going to ask chase to win said games, I'm not sure why a rookie or second year guy couldn't do that.

Rausch 06-16-2015 11:18 AM

When Sanchez and Fitzpatrick are top 2 the b/u QB's in this league are not very good right now...

lawrenceRaider 06-16-2015 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 11551146)
If anyone on that list had to start 4 or more games for my team, I'm giving up on the season. 73 year old Matt Hasselbeck? Matt Schaub? Christian Ponder? That's a whole lot of suck.

Matt Schaub's arm is completely shot. He shouldn't even be on a roster at this point. The linked list having Schaub at #4 completely invalidates the writers opinions.

nychief 06-16-2015 11:52 AM

The bitching about chase is stupid, he isn't going anywhere this year, he'll move in next. He can hold down the fort if AS goes down for a couple games or longer.... And I don't give a shit about the money he is making. Jesus I hate the off season....

loochy 06-16-2015 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 11551463)
The bitching about chase is stupid, he isn't going anywhere this year, he'll move in next. He can hold down the fort if AS goes down for a couple games or longer.... And I don't give a shit about the money he is making. Jesus I hate the off season....

Why not? It takes up money that could be used on something else.

DaneMcCloud 06-16-2015 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11551396)
When Sanchez and Fitzpatrick are top 2 the b/u QB's in this league are not very good right now...

When Josh McCown, Matt Cassel and Brian Hoyer are starting, there aren't enough quality QB's to go around.

And guys like Cutler, Palmer, Bradford and Dalton haven't shown they can win anything to date.

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-16-2015 04:47 PM

Only in Chiefs QB reality is he a Top 10 back up.

Who cares if he can step right and continue to mediocre up the joint? His reps need to be going to Murray and/or Bray.

Gadzooks 06-16-2015 04:58 PM

Chase should be cut. How could anyone justify his salary as a backup!?!

Bob Dole 06-16-2015 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 11551912)
Chase should be cut. How could anyone justify his salary as a backup!?!

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