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Sorter 04-17-2015 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11442521)

LMAO

Direckshun 04-17-2015 06:58 PM

Why the hell is Cam Erving a reach at 18?

The guy was likely a first round pick at tackle BEFORE he switched to center.

And in half a season (!!!) he only became the nation's best center.

There's absolutely no reason why he is not a Top 20 talent in this draft, if not a Top 15 talent.

kccrow 04-17-2015 07:10 PM

I officially despise this pick.

I'd literally go through the roof if the Chiefs pick Erving. It doesn't have a thing to do with whether I feel Erving is good or not, its the principal of drafting a center in round 1, on top of letting go of a top tier center in the off-season, on top of passing on several quality free agent players, on top of the fact that there are several quality centers beyond the first round starting with Grasu in the 2nd.

****... people give me shit about wanting an electric play-maker in the first round...

Seriously, if this is the pick, Erving better be the reincarnation of Bruce Matthews.

Bewbies 04-17-2015 07:27 PM

Are you sure there's not a fullback or punter you'd rather have?

LMAO

DaneMcCloud 04-17-2015 07:29 PM

:facepalm:

The worst part is that this all ends in two weeks, then D (or V) will start his 2016 campaign to draft another meaningless positional player.

TambaBerry 04-17-2015 07:51 PM

It better be one of the top wr or a cb or I'll be pissed

RealSNR 04-17-2015 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11442522)
I think it is a fundamental misunderstanding of the league we're talking about.

Using the draft to replace players who become too expensive for the team is standard operating procedure for a league with a salary cap.

Every ****ing team has to do it, and the Chiefs are no exception.

You just don't hear about teams doing it with centers. Maybe if the center in the draft is good value and the prospect has a Geno Smith-sized schlong that serves as an extra limb in fighting off defensive linemen at the snap. Then sure, why not.

Cam Erving is average, and you're having your period about a ****ing C that is no longer on the team.

Tell me, when we let Dexter McCluster walk in free agency last year, did you say, "UH OH. BIG ****ING HOLE IN THE ROSTER COMING UP. DRAFT A RETURNER IN THE 1ST ROUND, DORSEY!"

The fact that you're doing it over Rodney Hudson's departure is entirely laughable.

And **** you, milkman. Yes, I'm saying **** you pre-emptively, but I ****ing KNOW that if you read this, you'll immediately post some wise ancient Chinese adage about C being the most underrated position on the offensive line.

**** that. If you're so goddamn worried, then go sign a veteran like Brian de la Puente for chump change compared to Rodney Hudson. Cam Erving isn't going to be as good as Hudson for at least a few years anyway, and that's if he ever DOES become as good as Hudson is now. It's worthless to say, "UHOH WE'VE GOT A BIG HOLE IN THE OFFENSIVE LINE!" and then plug it immediately with a ****ing rookie who will get his shit pushed in all year and make Alex Smith's job just as difficult as if Eric Kush were starting.

Actually, he'll probably be worse. At least Eric Kush has NFL experience and NFL strength. We just don't know if he's a good player or not yet, that's all. With Cam Erving, the potential might be greater, but we're also dealing with more unknowns in the short term. And that's with our ****ing 1st round pick that we're jizzing away.

**** Cam Erving. **** you. **** your house. **** your car.

CleveSteve 04-17-2015 08:32 PM

My guess is the Chiefs' brass figured that if they re-signed Hudson, they wouldn't have enough to sign Houston. Probably better to keep the proven pass rusher and draft a premeir center than keep Hudson and take a shot on some dipshit project pass rusher like Dupree or Shane Ray in the first and hope he pans out converting to linebacker.

Of course if they can't re-sign Houston it backfires big time, but that might be what they were thinking.

Just a guess, though.

Sandy Vagina 04-17-2015 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11442866)
You just don't hear about teams doing it with centers. Maybe if the center in the draft is good value

Then kindly tell everyone why so many draft sources are having Erving in the top 30?

http://www.ourlads.com/nfl-mock-draf...k-Draft-4.0/81
http://gbnreport.com/2015-nfl-draft-...p-100-players/
http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=1...&lnid=124&rc=4
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings
http://walterfootball.com/draft2015bigboard.php
http://www.draftace.com/2015-rankings/

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The National Football Post's Greg Gabriel grades FSU C Cameron Erving as the class' second-best interior lineman.
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FSU C Cameron Erving "has Pro Bowl potential if he plays center, and any team that saw his tape from the last half of the 2014 season likely would put him there," ESPN's Mel Kiper believes.
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FSU C Cameron Erving should be considered when the Eagles get on the clock at No. 20, ESPN's Kevin Weidl believes.
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Per ESPN Stats & Information's Sharon Katz, Florida State doubled its yards-before-contact rush average on interior runs in the final five games after shifting C Cameron Erving inside.
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Mike Mayock said FSU C Cameron Erving is a "starting Pro Bowl-quality center."

etc... oh, but let me guess... YOU.. some nobody jackass on a forum knows better, right? Why don't you go eat shit and hang yourself from a burning aids tree splashed with antifreeze? Who the **** are you to act as if your draft evaluations are worthwhile? You're just some arrogant dickhead that should have been swallowed by momma instead. **** you!!!!

RealSNR 04-17-2015 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11443104)
Then kindly tell everyone why so many draft sources are having Erving in the top 30?

http://www.ourlads.com/nfl-mock-draf...k-Draft-4.0/81
http://gbnreport.com/2015-nfl-draft-...p-100-players/
http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=1...&lnid=124&rc=4
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings
http://walterfootball.com/draft2015bigboard.php
http://www.draftace.com/2015-rankings/








etc... oh, but let me guess... YOU.. some nobody jackass on a forum knows better, right? Why don't you go eat shit and hang yourself from an aids tree splashed with antifreeze? Who the **** are you to act as if your draft evaluations are worthwhile? You're just some arrogant dickhead that should have been swallowed by momma instead. **** you!!!!

LMAO LMAO LMAO

You seem upset.

Just stop trying to control things in life that you can't control like somebody who makes you look like a flaming moron on a football message board. There's nothing you can do about being that ****ing dumb, so just chill out and enjoy the ride, man! :thumb:

Sandy Vagina 04-17-2015 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11443113)
LMAO LMAO LMAO

You seem upset.

Just stop trying to control things in life that you can't control like somebody who makes you look like a flaming moron on a football message board. There's nothing you can do about being that ****ing dumb, so just chill out and enjoy the ride, man! :thumb:

great job trying to dodge every legit point made.. tapout acknowledged.

Chiefnj2 04-17-2015 08:53 PM

It doesn't look like #18 will be a good spot to be sitting in the draft for KC.

At 18 you are probably looking at an OL or DL being the best value.

RealSNR 04-17-2015 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11443120)
great job trying to dodge every legit point made.. tapout acknowledged.

Point to where I said he wouldn't get taken by anybody in the top 30, or go **** your grandfather.

"Tapout" indeed LMAO

What's it like being a self-righteous reerun? I'm curious.

Direckshun 04-17-2015 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 11442607)
I officially despise this pick.

I'd literally go through the roof if the Chiefs pick Erving. It doesn't have a thing to do with whether I feel Erving is good or not, its the principal of drafting a center in round 1, on top of letting go of a top tier center in the off-season, on top of passing on several quality free agent players, on top of the fact that there are several quality centers beyond the first round starting with Grasu in the 2nd.

****... people give me shit about wanting an electric play-maker in the first round...

Seriously, if this is the pick, Erving better be the reincarnation of Bruce Matthews.

Erving offers more than just being a starting center, although he's got All Pro talent there.

Direckshun 04-17-2015 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11442705)
:facepalm:

The worst part is that this all ends in two weeks, then D (or V) will start his 2016 campaign to draft another meaningless positional player.

Re-read the OP. Until last year, I've only been advocating quarterbacks and passrushers.


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