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cosmo20002 12-16-2014 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11196810)
:facepalm:

Please name all of the songs that Frank Sinatra wrote.

Thanks in advance.

You're comparing Joan Jett to Frank Sinatra?
And he's not in there either.

cosmo20002 12-16-2014 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 11196830)
I had a couple of her albums as a teen, and the woman knows how to rock. Whether she wrote or not, she could execute a song like nobody's business. I Love Rock And Roll is one of the best car songs ever.

So can a lot of cover bands at bars on Saturday nights.

Rain Man 12-16-2014 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11196848)
So can a lot of cover bands at bars on Saturday nights.

If there are cover bands as good as Joan Jett, I'm going to start going to bars.

Brock 12-16-2014 06:00 PM

I like Joan, but there's a lot of more deserving acts. I mean ELO isn't good enough? Deep purple?

listopencil 12-16-2014 06:02 PM

I have no problem with any of these acts getting in. If anything, they improve the standing of the R&R HoF by being part of it.

listopencil 12-16-2014 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11196540)
First, the ROR HOF is stupid.
But since it does exist...There is no reason for Joan Jett to be in there. For what? Just for being a female rocker? The couple hits she had and anything anyone has heard of are all covers.

Yes, it has been lame. But if it is going to exist then Joan Jett belongs in there.

cosmo20002 12-16-2014 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 11196873)
If there are cover bands as good as Joan Jett, I'm going to start going to bars.

I'm not saying she sucks or anything. She can hold her own on stage and she's much better than any of the other females in her genre. I just don't see it as a HOF resume. I guess if you heavily weigh her status as a female, but the music itself is really nothing special, especially considering almost all her known songs are re-worked versions already done by other bands.

Deberg_1990 12-16-2014 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11197048)
Ijust don't see it as a HOF resume.

What is a Rock n Roll HoF resume?

What are the qualifiers? X number of hits? X number of albums sold?

Or is it just subjective BS?

007 12-16-2014 07:17 PM

The RRHoF is a complete joke. Always has been.

KCwolf 12-16-2014 07:24 PM

OK Guru ..... no Matter the Joke ... Bill Withers is the SHIT .... PERIOD

Ragged Robin 12-16-2014 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11196548)
I don't get Green Day either...

They paved the way for mainstream (pop) "punk" music and culture in the 90s. Hands down, it was them more than anything else: image, sound and otherwise. Dookie is an all-time classic and iconic album.

I like to think American Idiot and all the bullshit after that never happened though when I think of Green Day, but I guess you can't be stoner kids as musicians forever.

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Rausch 12-16-2014 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 11197125)
They paved the way for mainstream (pop) "punk" music and culture in the 90s. Hands down, it was them more than anything else: image, sound and otherwise. Dookie is an all-time classic and iconic album.

So they made punk pop music.

Yeah, that's what they did. Punk had been around for 10 years and done much better. And in it's true form.

And the whole point of Punk was to not conform to pop music norms. Which we're now giving credit to Green Day for doing.

Hell, Bleach by Nirvana was a punk/alternative album that's only recognized after the fact.

Ragged Robin 12-16-2014 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11197141)
So they made punk pop music.

Yeah, that's what they did. Punk had been around for 10 years and done much better. And in it's true form.

And the whole point of Punk was to not conform to pop music norms. Which we're now giving credit to Green Day for doing.

Hell, Bleach by Nirvana was a punk/alternative album that's only recognized after the fact.

This is the Rock Hall Of Fame, not "lulz who did it first hall of fame" or "punk purity hall of fame." Alternative/grunge was already established by that time, pop punk took that and breathed life into it. Green Day were instrumental in making "pop punk" what it is today -- for better or worse. No way in hell are they punk godfathers or on the mount rushmore of punk but this recognition is about awarding influential musicians in the last 25 years of their existence in which Green Day is well deserving. Even when they came back and adopted the whole My Chemical Romance/Emo/Scene kid thing, they blew up again for a whole new generation.

cosmo20002 12-16-2014 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 11197061)
What is a Rock n Roll HoF resume?

What are the qualifiers? X number of hits? X number of albums sold?

Or is it just subjective BS?

Yeah, mostly. I mean, it's music. Jimi Hendrix didn't really have any hits.
Hits and sales are part of the measure I suppose, but also influence, timelessness, uniqueness, and other "subjective' aspects are all part of it.

lewdog 12-16-2014 08:03 PM

Green Day's Dookie changed my life when I heard if for the first time in 5th grade.


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