Yeah, the guy who had a 6-2-1 record last year, and a 19-5-1 the past two years, yeah, scrub.
Well at least you are honest. You are a dumb shit who isn't a fan because you already feel failure before they have even had one practice. Its cool. Just try not to be too miserable with your chiefs when they make the playoffs....
Great point, but no need to talk the suicidal off the cliff. Much better just to push those ****ers off the ledge who steal my oxygen.

You and I have very different definitions of the term "legitimate qb".

This is not an acceptable barometer for good QB play.

Kyle Orton had a 21-12 stretch to start his career, but those wins were almost entirely based on his running game and defense, much like Alex Smith.

Out of all the off season changes I like the Dorsey move the best. Of course I thought that about fat Scott so feel free to tell me to STFU

Well, the Chiefs organization hasn't really earned the benefit of the doubt- have they?

By the way, nice name-calling. Speaks volumes about you as a person.

Lets see what he can do under Reid's offense before passing judgement on the quality of the trade. It was not exactly like played under offensive gurus. It is Dorsey's job to find the next Manning/Brady/Rodgers, but if there isn't one available this year then he should address the QB situation the best way possible. To just throw this season away because there isn't one in the draft is foolish. Elite QBs almost never hit the market and when they do there is usually a reason for it.

Maybe I'm being a little bit of a homer, but I am going to wait until I see Alex smith in whatever "non-cookie cutter" offensive system that Reid puts into place before I give up on this season. Maybe Alexwill have a good year. Maybe this team will fully come together and whoop some ass.

But then again, i have been disappointed the last several years...

I don't get some of you guys. They evaluated the position, found it lacking and got the consensus best qb available. Yeah they might of overpaid a little but to land the best available sometimes you have to. Nowhere has anyone said that they will now ignore the position for the next 5-10 years. I'd almost bet that they evaluate the position next year and, if still found lacking, attempt to get the best available then as well. I don't sense the same ego or refusal to see the facts the last regime showed.

To be honest, I have not seen Alex Smith play that many games in his career.

By looking at the numbers that have been thrown about that include his entire career, he looks to be a QB who has been groomed into being a very good NFL QB. He just wasn't groomed by the Chiefs... but the 49ers. 30 TD/10 INT's, along with his completion percentage and won loss record in the regular season is noteworthy.

Then you throw in 5TD's/0 INT's in 2 playoff games, and that is more intriguing. Plus, he led his team from behind twice late in the 4th quarter to win one game, and rallied his team to a game tying fg late in the NFC Championship game.

Now he may prove out to be what you and others think, but for now I think we have a legit NFL QB on our hands.

good post.

this too.

at least we have our new 'just passing by'....(although, it will obviously be hard to top the most embarrassingly wrong poster in chiefsplanet history...4 years of being wrong, holy shit snacks)

amazing how the dumbest member of a fanbase always follows the backup QB to KC...and then proceeds to lecture all us rubes about the glories of backup #54...



rinse, wash...

Preach on Brother John!

Have you ever got your testes caught in a can opener whilest opening miracle whip. It's no almond joy.

Yeah, those guys grow on trees. Everyone in the league has a future Hall of Famer at QB except the Chiefs.

Exorbitant? What the ****? Have you seen the Chiefs second round draft history? In 2010, the Chiefs selected McCluster (who's been garbage) and Arenas, who was traded. What about such "gems" as Junior Siavii, Eddie Freeman, William Bartee, Kris Wilson or a second rounder for Patrick Surtain?

You have absolutely NO idea if the trade value was "exorbitant" because Alex Smith hasn't played a single down in Kansas City. Furthermore, 95% of this forum LOVED the results of the Trent Green trade, due to the fact that the Chiefs had such a potent offense, yet he guided the team to really only ONE playoff appearance which was a loss (Huard was the better QB in 2006).

For example, let's look at the NFL Value Chart, which I think is outdated, but it will at least give us a base for this conversation:

#12 overall: 1,200 points
#34 overall: 560 points

So, if Alex Smith guides this team to a 6-10 record this year (like Trent Green in 2001), the Chiefs will surrender a 3rd round draft choice, which would put the draft value at somewhere around 215 points. At that point, the Chiefs will have paid about 775 points, which is about 34% less than what they paid for Trent Green. If they go 8-8 or better, the value equals somewhere around 400 points, or 960 in total, which is about 20% less than the Green trade. Either way, it's much less than the Chiefs paid for Green to play for six seasons and lead the Chiefs to no playoff victories, yet people still revere him.

Regardless, IF Alex Smith leads this team to a single playoff game during his tenure, it could be considered to be a much better trade than the Trent Green trade, especially considering the fact that the Chiefs passed on Drew Brees, who is a probable Hall of Famer.