Floyd's shuttle drill suggests otherwise; his first step is pretty spectacular.

You're right, though - his technique needs work. That said, again, he's 20. With his hands being as quick as they are, there's no reason at all he couldn't have outstanding pass-rush moves.

I just don't see what you're seeing here, I guess. Floyd's first step is absolutely elite. The rest of it is just a technique issue that comes from being a young kid.

I can understand the discussion of age and I appreciate the upside. Reminds me a bit of the analysis of Amobi Okoye, but in that regard only.

Richardson, when he gave a ****, was a dynamic force on the field. At times, easily the best player on the field, while playing against the best competition.

I simply think it's a stretch to take a DL with "upside" at 1.1, especially given what he'll need to refine.

Again, not trying to kill this player, as I think he's a good one.

I hate Sheldon Richardson the human being, so I'm incapable of seeing this objectively.

That said, Floyd did rape faces at the combine and it wouldn't take much development for him to be a legitimate stud. My only real worry is his arm length; guys could get to his pads a little easier because his arms are a little bit short.

:clap: ROFLROFLROFL

I like Richardson much more than Floyd. Richardson makes plays all over the field...very high motor. Don't judge Sheldon on the end of last season...that was something between and him Pinkel. I don't care how old Floyd is, he's not a difference maker at the same level as SR. We took our flyer on Baby Huey last year...we don't need another guy who MIGHT turn into something, someday.

Floyd would be a big mistake for the Chiefs.

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While I know nothing about Florida's OL, this tape was much more impressive than anything I've watched from Floyd. Much busier hands, much better penetration, more explosive.

On a side note, both players move around a lot and have experience playing 0, shades/1, 2,3, 4, and 5 techniques. Both have lined up in the 7 as well.

Florida was Richardson's best game of the year. He was truly outstanding in that game.

If I needed a DT, ran a 4-3, and had the 20th pick, I'd be real interested in Floyd.

Wouldn't even consider him at #1 overall in the draft.

Just from watching that and only an extremely limited amount of other games in person without really reviewing his other games, that definitely seems to be the case.

Why the **** does this matter?

You do realize that the majority of techniques for a DT in a base 43 are similar to those utilized by all teams in subs? Additionally, the league is extremely passing oriented and the use/importance of DTs that can get a pass rush from the 3-tech is increased.

The 4-3/3-4 stuff is overblown, especially when you consider stunts, gameplans, and other variables that change responsibilities of each player at the line. If you're drafting a DT/3-4 DE (Who will play the exact same techniques as the NT or DT in a 4-3 odd front) in the first round, then they had better be able to provide a solid pass rush from either the 0, shaded 1, 2/3 technique. Additionally, it is even more important currently to find guys (if you run a 3-4 odd front as your base) that can provide a pass rush from the 4/5 tech.

Because interior linemen can disrupt an offensive scheme much more than a 5T. The exception to the rule is a guy who might've had the best season in pro football history for a DL. Think Floyd's gonna get to the QB shaded over the OG or lined up opposite Joe Thomas?

*facepalm*

The majority of your guys playing the 4/5 tech in base fronts are going to be rotated in to the 2 and 3 tech in sub packages typically. It isn't the exception to the rule. I'm not really sure what you're arguing, unless you think 4/5 techs can't provide an interior pass rush from the 2/3 technique.

Your argument still doesn't make sense. If we ran a 4-3, Floyd would be a 3 tech primarily in both base fronts and sub packages.

Since we run a 3-4 (I presume an odd front as base but I'm not too familiar with what Sutton will do), Floyd will play a 4-5 tech and rotate inside and play the 3 tech on subs. Since the league is passing-oriented, it is likely he'll get a large volume of snaps playing the 3 tech, just as he would as a 4-3 DT.

Either way...you don't draft Floyd based on his production. He's a potential guy, and the Chiefs have done TERRIBLY when they have drafted DL guys based on potential. Bust after bust after bust.

The Chiefs need to get proven players...period. Floyd does not qualify, I don't care how young he is. Sheldon was a better player at 18 than Floyd is now.

What proven player is worth the #1 pick?