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Saccopoo 07-13-2014 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10743454)
Trololololol

Not even close.

Totally being serious.

I don't ****ing troll the Draft Planet.

It's serious football here.

Discussions and shit like that.

But go **** your sister for suggesting that I'd do that.

Go **** your grandmother and aunt as well.

**** you.

And the fruit you were named after.

milkman 07-13-2014 08:21 AM

We should not have reached for Ford, who would have been a high 2nd round round pick, at worst.
We should have reached for Gabe Jackson, who was a 3rd round pick.

Makes perfect sense.

I don't think sac is a troll.
He's just one stupid mother.

RunKC 07-13-2014 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10744058)
Not even close.

Totally being serious.

I don't ****ing troll the Draft Planet.

It's serious football here.

Discussions and shit like that.

But go **** your sister for suggesting that I'd do that.

Go **** your grandmother and aunt as well.

**** you.

And the fruit you were named after.

You don't troll but yet you make stupid posts saying that Dee Ford is a special teams only kinda player because you hate him.

You are either trolling or milkman is right about you.

Saccopoo 07-13-2014 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10744010)
Do you know how many guys with upside are competing for the starting RG spot?

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One of them is bound to shake out and do a decent job for us.
I sincerely doubt it.

They are a bunch of shitstains and it's going to be a problem all season long.

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The only thing worse than wasting a 1st rounder on interior linemen is wasting a 1st rounder on interior linemen and creating a logjam at the ****ing position.

It's like spending anything more than a 7th round pick on a kicker or punter.
Or a special teams player...

just like Dee Ford is going to be/is.

Saccopoo 07-13-2014 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10744229)
You don't troll but yet you make stupid posts saying that Dee Ford is a special teams only kinda player because you hate him.

You are either trolling or milkman is right about you.

I don't hate Dee Ford. I don't even know the guy.

However, I loathe the pick.

The guy didn't produce in college despite his prodigious athletic talents. He's a major work in progress that may or may not pan out. That's not the guy you take in the first round when you have numerous needs at other positions (WR/OL/DB/ILB/etc.) I know that they need depth at the OLB position, but Ford is a one trick pony that didn't really do that one trick very well.

planetdoc 07-13-2014 02:21 PM

Dee Ford is a short armed speed rusher. That being said, at least initially with the chiefs, he wont be asked to be an every down player. They will maximize his abilities by using him as a pass rush specialist (i.e. his 1 trick). He is a boom/bust prospect since his major strength is timing the snap count. All it takes is a handful of false start penalties in a game to neutralize him.

Gabe Jackson is a good player. He has great tape, but a poor (IMO) combine. In no way is a guard worth the chiefs pick. Pass rusher positional value > interior offensive lineman.

Saccopoo 07-13-2014 03:10 PM

There were 20-25 other dudes I would have taken before Ford and Dorsey should be strung up by his balls for taking Gaines over Donte Moncrief.

Kyle Van Noy
Jeremiah Attaochu
Trent Murphy
Demarcus Lawrence

All would have been a better option than Dee Ford, IMO. (Especially when you throw in the injury issue.)

RealSNR 07-13-2014 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10744382)
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I sincerely doubt it.

They are a bunch of shitstains and it's going to be a problem all season long.



Or a special teams player...

just like Dee Ford is going to be/is.

I'll take Geoff Schwartz-adequate production from my RG, thank you.

We've got 3 or 4 guys competing for that starting RG spot, and I'm fairly confident we can get one of them to be adequate. And that's all we should expect and want, really.

Or we can spend valuable top-end draft stock on the worthless ****ing position. That's what you apparently want.

Hammock Parties 07-13-2014 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10739630)
Notable stat I heard on cbs radio: Peyton Manning barely completed 40% of his passes past 15 yards downfield last year.

That's a good percentage, actually.

Bowser 07-14-2014 11:19 AM

Although I don't share Sacc's hatred of the Dee Ford pick, I do agree that our first two picks should have been Van Noy and Moncrief.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-14-2014 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10746012)
Although I don't share Sacc's hatred of the Dee Ford pick, I do agree that our first two picks should have been Van Noy and Moncrief.

Are they fatties from Utah?

Bowser 07-14-2014 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 505 Chief (Post 10746020)
Are they fatties from Utah?

Heh, surprisingly not. Van Noy was a 'backer from BYU, and Moncrief was an explosive receiver from Ole Miss with huge upside.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-14-2014 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10746025)
Heh, surprisingly not. Van Noy was a 'backer from BYU, and Moncrief was an explosive receiver from Ole Miss with huge upside.

Shocked I say.

Anywho, we got the nice cheap pickup from BYU. All Utah obligations = met.

Halfcan 07-14-2014 11:39 AM

Dee Ford will DOMINATE!

Steal of the draft and tickles the ivories like a champ!

Better get you Ford jersey now before the price goes up. You will be hearing his name a lot during camp and preseason - and that will carry him into a very productive rookie year where he will earn Defensive Rookie of the Year honors.

This kid is a Beast!!

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-14-2014 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 10746039)
Dee Ford will DOMINATE!

Steal of the draft and tickles the ivories like a champ!

Better get you Ford jersey now before the price goes up. You will be hearing his name a lot during camp and preseason - and that will carry him into a very productive rookie year where he will earn Defensive Rookie of the Year honors.

This kid is a Beast!!

HE WILL PLAY GOOD FOOTBALL!


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