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DJ's left nut 12-11-2018 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 13952120)
They should can their coaching staff as well. They're underachieving. Especially on offense.

Eh.

They're an above average offensive squad who lost their #1 runningback and are working with a mediocre OL. Julio is spectacular sure, but that's reflected in Matt Ryan's 4,000 yards passing, 28 scores and 108 passer rating.

Their passing game has been a lot better than you realize but they haven't been able to make up for the loss of Freeman. Their passing game won't be much worse than that 2016 season when Ryan won the MVP, they just don't have the rushing attack to supplement it. That's why I'm a little puzzled by the calls for Tevin Coleman in FA - he's been pretty much ass as the lead dog in ATL.

Where they've really sucked horribly is on defense. They're giving up more points than we are, more yards per play than we are, they can't get after the passer and they're one of the worst in the league at generating turnovers. If you take our defense then remove the sacks and takeaways, you pretty much have their defense. Teams are converting better than 50% of their 3rd downs against Atlanta and a staggering 88% of their 4th downs (ATL has managed 1 4th down stop all season).

If you take everything our defense does even moderately well and remove it, you have the Falcons defense. Tragically that is in no small part due to their horrible safety play. And they STILL decided that Ron Parker wasn't good enough to make their team...yet he starts for ours.

I mean this is just a long-winded way of saying you're wrong. The offense has been about what you would expect of a team that lost its top RB; pass heavy but largely productive through the air. It's the defense that has been a complete shitshow.

lcarus 12-11-2018 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13952507)
Eh.

They're an above average offensive squad who lost their #1 runningback and are working with a mediocre OL. Julio is spectacular sure, but that's reflected in Matt Ryan's 4,000 yards passing, 28 scores and 108 passer rating.

Their passing game has been a lot better than you realize but they haven't been able to make up for the loss of Freeman. Their passing game won't be much worse than that 2016 season when Ryan won the MVP, they just don't have the rushing attack to supplement it. That's why I'm a little puzzled by the calls for Tevin Coleman in FA - he's been pretty much ass as the lead dog in ATL.

Where they've really sucked horribly is on defense. They're giving up more points than we are, more yards per play than we are, they can't get after the passer and they're one of the worst in the league at generating turnovers. If you take our defense then remove the sacks and takeaways, you pretty much have their defense. Teams are converting better than 50% of their 3rd downs against Atlanta and a staggering 88% of their 4th downs (ATL has managed 1 4th down stop all season).

If you take everything our defense does even moderately well and remove it, you have the Falcons defense. Tragically that is in no small part due to their horrible safety play. And they STILL decided that Ron Parker wasn't good enough to make their team...yet he starts for ours.

I mean this is just a long-winded way of saying you're wrong. The offense has been about what you would expect of a team that lost its top RB; pass heavy but largely productive through the air. It's the defense that has been a complete shitshow.

Losing Freeman hurts no doubt but they should still be better. Coleman was productive for them, they have a good rookie WR to go with Julio, and Matt Ryan, love him or hate him, was torching defenses 2 years ago. It's the last 7 games or so that they've just turned to dog shit. Averaging 17 pts a game in their last 7 and some of those were late late garbage points.

srvy 12-11-2018 04:59 PM

Vikings fired offensive coordinator DeFilippo today. Maybe you just misheard the name.


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