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New World Order 06-11-2014 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Herpe (Post 10683805)
Montee can play. I wouldn't be surprised if he averages 5ypc, getting Clady back and moving Franklin to guard significantly improves the left side of our OL.


Don't you think those stats are insignificant? I mean defenses don't play the run against Manning. You could stick a current Bam Morris in there and he would probably average at least 5.5 ypc.

ThaVirus 06-11-2014 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Herpe (Post 10683815)
Of course, Charles would destroy in Denver. Even if he only has one or two good years left it would still be worth it.

He destroys in KC, bud.

In any case, he's better than Terrell Davis. That's for sure.

threebag 06-11-2014 09:00 AM

Need more sand in the sand box this turd keeps coming to the top

vailpass 06-11-2014 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10683953)
He destroys in KC, bud.

In any case, he's better than Terrell Davis. That's for sure.

TD was better in Denver's run scheme. JC is better in the Chief's scheme.

MagicHef 06-11-2014 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10683953)
He destroys in KC, bud.

In any case, he's better than Terrell Davis. That's for sure.

I had never thought to compare the two, but it is interesting. They have both had 4 real non-injury shortened seasons. In those 4 seasons (combining rushing and receiving):

TD:
7594 yards
61 TDs
16 Fumbles

JC:
7077 yards
41 TDs
16 Fumbles

Pretty similar, other than the 20 extra touchdowns.

tooge 06-11-2014 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 10684043)
I had never thought to compare the two, but it is interesting. They have both had 4 real non-injury shortened seasons. In those 4 seasons (combining rushing and receiving):

TD:
7594 yards
61 TDs
16 Fumbles

JC:
7077 yards
41 TDs
16 Fumbles

Pretty similar, other than the 20 extra touchdowns.

that and the fact that one had a QB that could pass the ball, and the other had guys like Matt Cassel, Brodie Cryole, and I can't even remember the name of the other guy Todd Haley strutted out there at Qb, and the other one had John Elway. Teams stack the box against Charles, not so much against Davis.

Mother****erJones 06-11-2014 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 10684043)
I had never thought to compare the two, but it is interesting. They have both had 4 real non-injury shortened seasons. In those 4 seasons (combining rushing and receiving):

TD:
7594 yards
61 TDs
16 Fumbles

JC:
7077 yards
41 TDs
16 Fumbles

Pretty similar, other than the 20 extra touchdowns.

Other than the fact he had elway.

Mother****erJones 06-11-2014 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 10684034)
TD was better in Denver's run scheme. JC is better in the Chief's scheme.

JC is great in any scheme. We've had multiple.

MagicHef 06-11-2014 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 10684046)
that and the fact that one had a QB that could pass the ball, and the other had guys like Matt Cassel, Brodie Cryole, and I can't even remember the name of the other guy Todd Haley strutted out there at Qb, and the other one had John Elway. Teams stack the box against Charles, not so much against Davis.

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 10684052)
Other than the fact he had elway.

Oh yeah, and other than the fact that one is 7-1 in the playoffs with 1271 yards and 12 TDs, while the other is 0-2 with 115 yards and 1 TD.

RunKC 06-11-2014 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 10684082)
Oh yeah, and other than the fact that one is 7-1 in the playoffs with 1271 yards and 12 TDs, while the other is 0-2 with 115 yards and 1 TD.

You can't be serious? You're counting the Indy game? That's lame since he played one series.

It's more of a team game. Anyone with eyes could tell you Charles had by far a tougher road. He didn't have the surrounding talent TD did.

MagicHef 06-11-2014 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10684101)
You can't be serious? You're counting the Indy game? That's lame since he played one series.

It's more of a team game. Anyone with eyes could tell you Charles had by far a tougher road. He didn't have the surrounding talent TD did.

More pointing out the fact that TD was likely the best post-season RB in NFL history. For as good as he was all the time, he knew how to turn it on when it mattered the most.

We all know that JC has an incredible career YPC, but TD's post-season YPC was higher.

Mother****erJones 06-11-2014 10:49 AM

TD also played in a RB era, while JC plays in a passing league. Just wait 3 more years and well revisit.

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-11-2014 10:53 AM

So it's the Montee Ball train now?

:shake:

MagicHef 06-11-2014 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 10684179)
TD also played in a RB era, while JC plays in a passing league. Just wait 3 more years and well revisit.

That's why I included receiving in the totals I listed.

ThaVirus 06-11-2014 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 10684043)
I had never thought to compare the two, but it is interesting. They have both had 4 real non-injury shortened seasons. In those 4 seasons (combining rushing and receiving):

TD:
7594 yards
61 TDs
16 Fumbles

JC:
7077 yards
41 TDs
16 Fumbles

Pretty similar, other than the 20 extra touchdowns.

I was actually just ****ing around with KnowMo, but now that you mention it...

It's funny that you didn't include number of total touches in the equation here. TD's 1495 to JC's 1154. With JC, you're getting more than a full yard's worth of production with each touch but also a fumble thrown in the mix more frequently.

Davis scored a TD, on average, once every 25 touches to Jamaal's 28 but can we even compare the two? TD played his best four years with a HOFer and the possible GOAT running behind an offensive line that was... Well, let's just say it- cheap as ****. Meanwhile, Jamaal's played on some of the league's worst offenses, in no way because of him, with the likes of Matt Cassel and Brady Quinn.

Out of curiosity, do you think Jamaal's production wouldn't have dwarfed TD's if the two were swapped?


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