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Exoter175 04-11-2013 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9578959)
That was already addressed. Go back and try again

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You're so ignorant sometimes.
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9578960)
Even if, by chance, some team does have Geno on their board in the 2nd round, that's not "career backup" territory. He'd need to be in the Ricky Stanzi round (5) or lower for that.

And if this is a strong draft for tackles, that's a great reason to move out of 1 if you can, because you can find tackles later in the draft who aren't all that much of a drop off from the ones projected in the top 10. Although I wouldn't call it a 'strong' tackle class. I'd call it a 'deep' tackle class. It's, much like the draft as a whole, a class that doesn't really have any true blue chippers. Joeckel's a mid-late first in a stronger class. Fisher's probably still ahead of him, but borderline top 10-15. This is not a special tackle group in any sense.

(Which doesn't help our efforts to trade down)

If Stanzi were in this draft, he'd be a first round selection, that's how bad this draft is for QB's, they are all career backup caliber, but a few will likely become starters for a few years at some point, while teams wait on the next crop of QB's. Just like how Blaine Gabbert's situation sits. The guy blows donkey dick, yet he's a starter.

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9578962)
So Dorsey is a liar I guess?

Believe it or not, teams, coaches, talent evaluators, etc. can change their minds. They can, you know, setup meetings with players (like Geno) after they announce they've narrowed it down.

Its all a rouse to drive trade pricing and trade requests anyhow.

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Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole20 (Post 9578963)
What is Geno not as good in compared to Garcia or Kolb? I never mentioned Mcnabb.

Truthfully, we won't know until he plays. But you can't sit here and say Geno NOW, is as good as Garcia ever was, or is better than Kolb (now). As for McNabb, you can't bring up Eagles QB's that Reid has coached, and NOT talk about McNabb. That's just dumb.

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 9578984)
Superbowl QB's since 2003:

Tom Brady
Jake Delhomme
Donovan McNabb
Ben Roethlisberger
Matt Hasselbeck
Peyton Manning
Rex Grossman
Eli Manning
Kurt Warner
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers
Joe Flacco
Colin Kaepernick

Superbowl QB's since 2003 that were drafted in the first round:

Rex Grossman
Donovan McNabb
Ben Roethlisberger
Eli Manning
Peyton Manning
Aaron Rodgers
Joe Flacco
A case could be made for Drew Brees even being the first pick in the second round.

7/13 were first round picks, over half, and if you count Drew Brees you get 8/13. You can say what you want about if you think Geno isn't the guy we should take, but taking one of the best QB's in a draft has worked the majority of the time the last 10 years. Also Tom Brady has played in 4 of those Superbowls where he beat Peyton and Rivers many a times so you could've almost added Rivers to that list of first rounders as well.

You don't get to count Brees, and 7 out of 13 is 1 away from LESS than half.

So while you might to try qualify your argument's verbage to make it sound like that is a lot, in a statistical sense, its almost as likely that you'll win a super bowl with a QB not picked in the first round.


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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9578993)
If the new regime thinks G. Smith is that guy, by all means, they should take him. If they don't, they shouldn't.

He's no Luck, sure. I don't think we will have a chance to pick a Luck for a while/if ever. IMO, Geno isn't as good as some on here bill him to be, nor is he as bad as some bill him to be.

I stand 110% behind what the new Regime does, but I KNOW the knew Regime will NOT be picking Geno Smith.

It simply will not happen, period, end of story.

So I'm trying to help these idiots along who think that Geno will be our pick at the 1.1 understand the impossibility of Geno being selected.

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Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 9579014)
Read again.

Why?

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Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 9579045)
Reread your own ****ing post dickbag.

Why?

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9579117)
Good Lord. Who crushed Exoter with the three pound stupid bat?

Nobody, you kidding me?
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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9579207)
Can I get a reerun count of people who still think the chiefs will take geno?

Well in the hundreds on this forum.

RealSNR 04-11-2013 09:20 PM

"You're the ignorant one" he says LMAO

Exoter175 04-11-2013 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9579418)
"You're the ignorant one" he says LMAO

The basic premise of Ignorant, is to Ignore.

Its safe to say that I don't ignore a single fact, I work through them logically until a solution is given. That's how speculation works.

Believe it or not, you don't have to throw shit at a wall to see if it sticks. :thumb:

KC native 04-11-2013 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9579382)
If Stanzi were in this draft, he'd be a first round selection, that's how bad this draft is for QB's, they are all career backup caliber, but a few will likely become starters for a few years at some point, while teams wait on the next crop of QB's. Just like how Blaine Gabbert's situation sits. The guy blows donkey dick, yet he's a starter.

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RealSNR 04-11-2013 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9579423)
The basic premise of Ignorant, is to Ignore.

Its safe to say that I don't ignore a single fact, I work through them logically until a solution is given. That's how speculation works.

Believe it or not, you don't have to throw shit at a wall to see if it sticks. :thumb:

There's no speculation involved at all right now. You're ADDING speculation to something that shouldn't be so ****ing complicated.

JustPassinBy posted something stupid. You liked it. I said it was dumb, you said "Prove it." I did. And then you posted entire novels of bullshit that doesn't matter or disprove my claim.

Exoter175 04-11-2013 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 9579427)


I don't want to go to some random website to view an image, learn how to post images here.

PS link is messed up :P
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9579435)
There's no speculation involved at all right now. You're ADDING speculation to something that shouldn't be so ****ing complicated.

JustPassinBy posted something stupid. You liked it. I said it was dumb, you said "Prove it." I did. And then you posted entire novels of bullshit that doesn't matter or disprove my claim.

I"m not adding to anything, I'm trying to guide the general cluster **** into a logical conclusion by taking away speculations.

As far as your analysis of JustPassinBy, you are dead ****ing wrong, and you didn't prove anything.

He made a comment that hit the nail directly on the head, which is you don't take a QB #1 overall JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T DONE IT IN FOREVER. His retort, is that we haven't thrown away and forfeited every pick we have too.

The premise being, in this league you don't devalue picks and throw them away. You don't make decisions in this league based on voodoo rituals and superstitions, you make your selections or trades based upon valued evaluations upon needs and wants with any given player.

I'm sorry that you're too stupid to realize that in this league, you're not supposed to throw away picks "just because" and you don't draft a QB #1 overall because you've got the pick to do it, you make that selection because he's actually worth it.

In this draft, where there's equal talent available int he 2nd round, possibly even the 3rd, you don't draft Geno Smith overall while you have Alex Smith on your roster, costing you two second round picks.

That's logic.

I'm sorry you don't have the mental capacity to see the big picture.:thumb:

RealSNR 04-11-2013 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9579446)
He made a comment that hit the nail directly on the head, which is you don't take a QB #1 overall JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T DONE IT IN FOREVER. His retort, is that we haven't thrown away and forfeited every pick we have too.

Extraneous bullshit extraneous bullshit

That's not what he was saying at all.

When you call someone out on reading comprehension, it's always helpful to double-check to make sure you're not the ****ing moron.

Exoter175 04-11-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9579456)
That's not what he was saying at all.

When you call someone out on reading comprehension, it's always helpful to double-check to make sure you're not the ****ing moron.

And now I know it is true, you're a moron.


What exactly did you THINK he was saying when he made that comment about us not throwing away all of our picks?

And please don't' try to foolishly compare it again to "If your friend told you to jump off a bridge, would you?", because the comprehension here is positing an antithesis to your statement.

Whereas your retort of it being akin to jumping off a bridge is not an antithesis, and does NOT match up to the comment he made in parallel to yours.

Stupid shit.

O.city 04-11-2013 09:44 PM

I guess we need Jasonsauto to put Exoter in his place again.

Exoter175 04-11-2013 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9579478)
I guess we need Jasonsauto to put Exoter in his place again.

Sauto has never in his life put me in my place lol.


You're talking about the same guy who called me an, and I quote, "An overeducated knowitall with your diplomas and certs" like it was a bad thing.

Or the same guy who cried like a baby when I said I wanted to meet him so I could slap the **** out of him because he got mad in a thread and started talking shit about where I live.

Sauto's a piece of dirt.

O.city 04-11-2013 09:49 PM

Men slapping men. That would be fun.

Just Passin' By 04-11-2013 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9578664)
The illogical statement was, "Why is it so important to draft a QB just because it hasn't been done in 30 years? The team also hasn't vacated all of its draft picks in 30 years, maybe it should try doing that."

That's not what I said. And, since you linked to it without actually quoting it after this, let's get the actual quote:

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9577940)
They haven't passed up every draft pick and walked away, either. Would you recommend that just because it's change? Of course not.

If they think Smith is the player, they should draft him. If they don't think he's the guy, they shouldn't. It's that simple, and a bunch of people on a message board posting "GENO!!" doesn't somehow change that equation. It just makes those posters look like idiots, again, because they didn't learn the clear and obvious lesson from the Mark Sanchez draft.


Not only did I not say "maybe you should try doing that", I noted that you would, of course, not recommend such an action be taken. In other words, you took the entire point of my post and tried to twist it into exactly the opposite of what I was saying.

Exoter175 04-11-2013 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9579497)
That's not what I said. And, since you linked to it without actually quoting it after this, let's get the actual quote:



Not only did I not say "maybe you should try doing that", I noted that you would, of course, not recommend such an action be taken. In other words, you took the entire point of my post and tried to twist it into exactly the opposite of what I was saying.

Just quoting this to point out that SNR was wrong, after he called me out on Reading Comprehension. :thumb:

I want to buy you a beer!

RealSNR 04-11-2013 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9579497)
That's not what I said. And, since you linked to it without actually quoting it after this, let's get the actual quote:



Not only did I not say "maybe you should try doing that", I noted that you would, of course, not recommend such an action be taken. In other words, you took the entire point of my post and tried to twist it into exactly the opposite of what I was saying.

You ****ing suck.

A mother never suggests that her child should jump off a bridge if all the friends do it.

I know you weren't advocating that we vacate all of our draft selections.

For ****'s sake.

Exoter175 04-11-2013 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9579511)
You ****ing suck.

A mother never suggests that her child should jump off a bridge if all the friends do it.

Do you have kids?:spock:


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